Now everybody should like me!!!
bearister said:
In it's heyday, Arthur Murray used to prey on the elderly like aluminum siding salesmen, getting them to sign contracts for a lot more dancing lessons than they wanted.
To this day, whenever I sign a long boilerplate contract I say, "I'm not signing up for lifetime dancing lessons with Arthur Murray am I?"
* But only the elderly get the reference
evanluck said:
I'm a competitive ballroom dancer who started dancing 20 years ago at Arthur Murray. I saw the name of this thread and thought it was a mistake.
Many Arthur Murray studios do employ pretty aggressive sales tactics but being an independent teaching in the industry, I can see the origin of those tactics and how someone may employ them and still be able to sleep at night.
Learning to ballroom dance can be a life transformative activity as it was for the man Arthur Murray personally. But many people have trouble committing to the process of learning at a high enough level to really create the impact that they are looking for. Selling large packages of lessons creates commitment. Almost like paying for an all expense cruise. Once you take the big hit, then you are free to relax and learn. It works for people who have the money and for people who are comfortable saying "no" when they are being asked to buy something that they don't really want.
My ballroom credentials are three Beginning Ballroom classes in the 1970s-1980s with three different gals (I married the last one). Big Band / Swing had a renaissance during the late 1970s a la Bette Midler, etc. Anybody else ever go tea dancing at the SF Hyatt Regency on Friday evenings? And it had a second renaissance in the late 1990s (the movie Swingers, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, etc.). I'm not great, but I can waltz, foxtrot, east coast swing, and cha-cha. The best instruction I ever got was, "Gentlemen, ballroom dancing isn't about being a great dancer, it's about making your partner look and feel like she's a great dancer."evanluck said:
I'm a competitive ballroom dancer who started dancing 20 years ago at Arthur Murray. I saw the name of this thread and thought it was a mistake.
Many Arthur Murray studios do employ pretty aggressive sales tactics but being an independent teaching in the industry, I can see the origin of those tactics and how someone may employ them and still be able to sleep at night.
Learning to ballroom dance can be a life transformative activity as it was for the man Arthur Murray personally. But many people have trouble committing to the process of learning at a high enough level to really create the impact that they are looking for. Selling large packages of lessons creates commitment. Almost like paying for an all expense cruise. Once you take the big hit, then you are free to relax and learn. It works for people who have the money and for people who are comfortable saying "no" when they are being asked to buy something that they don't really want.
Fred?bearister said:
What's old and wrinkled and smells like ginger?
HearstMining said:Fred?bearister said:
What's old and wrinkled and smells like ginger?
HearstMining said:My ballroom credentials are three Beginning Ballroom classes in the 1970s-1980s with three different gals (I married the last one). Big Band / Swing had a renaissance during the late 1970s a la Bette Midler, etc. Anybody else ever go tea dancing at the SF Hyatt Regency on Friday evenings? And it had a second renaissance in the late 1990s (the movie Swingers, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, etc.). I'm not great, but I can waltz, foxtrot, east coast swing, and cha-cha. The best instruction I ever got was, "Gentlemen, ballroom dancing isn't about being a great dancer, it's about making your partner look and feel like she's a great dancer."evanluck said:
I'm a competitive ballroom dancer who started dancing 20 years ago at Arthur Murray. I saw the name of this thread and thought it was a mistake.
Many Arthur Murray studios do employ pretty aggressive sales tactics but being an independent teaching in the industry, I can see the origin of those tactics and how someone may employ them and still be able to sleep at night.
Learning to ballroom dance can be a life transformative activity as it was for the man Arthur Murray personally. But many people have trouble committing to the process of learning at a high enough level to really create the impact that they are looking for. Selling large packages of lessons creates commitment. Almost like paying for an all expense cruise. Once you take the big hit, then you are free to relax and learn. It works for people who have the money and for people who are comfortable saying "no" when they are being asked to buy something that they don't really want.
dimitrig said:HearstMining said:My ballroom credentials are three Beginning Ballroom classes in the 1970s-1980s with three different gals (I married the last one). Big Band / Swing had a renaissance during the late 1970s a la Bette Midler, etc. Anybody else ever go tea dancing at the SF Hyatt Regency on Friday evenings? And it had a second renaissance in the late 1990s (the movie Swingers, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, etc.). I'm not great, but I can waltz, foxtrot, east coast swing, and cha-cha. The best instruction I ever got was, "Gentlemen, ballroom dancing isn't about being a great dancer, it's about making your partner look and feel like she's a great dancer."evanluck said:
I'm a competitive ballroom dancer who started dancing 20 years ago at Arthur Murray. I saw the name of this thread and thought it was a mistake.
Many Arthur Murray studios do employ pretty aggressive sales tactics but being an independent teaching in the industry, I can see the origin of those tactics and how someone may employ them and still be able to sleep at night.
Learning to ballroom dance can be a life transformative activity as it was for the man Arthur Murray personally. But many people have trouble committing to the process of learning at a high enough level to really create the impact that they are looking for. Selling large packages of lessons creates commitment. Almost like paying for an all expense cruise. Once you take the big hit, then you are free to relax and learn. It works for people who have the money and for people who are comfortable saying "no" when they are being asked to buy something that they don't really want.
Ginger Rogers did everything Fred did…backwards and in high heels.
I don't have time to watch too much TV because I'm in the courtroom (no not as an attorney but as a defendant) too much or on travel! I just got back from Poland and Turkey.bearister said:
My brain sees him walking forward….isn't that a Mindhunter issue?
dimitrig said:HearstMining said:My ballroom credentials are three Beginning Ballroom classes in the 1970s-1980s with three different gals (I married the last one). Big Band / Swing had a renaissance during the late 1970s a la Bette Midler, etc. Anybody else ever go tea dancing at the SF Hyatt Regency on Friday evenings? And it had a second renaissance in the late 1990s (the movie Swingers, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, etc.). I'm not great, but I can waltz, foxtrot, east coast swing, and cha-cha. The best instruction I ever got was, "Gentlemen, ballroom dancing isn't about being a great dancer, it's about making your partner look and feel like she's a great dancer."evanluck said:
I'm a competitive ballroom dancer who started dancing 20 years ago at Arthur Murray. I saw the name of this thread and thought it was a mistake.
Many Arthur Murray studios do employ pretty aggressive sales tactics but being an independent teaching in the industry, I can see the origin of those tactics and how someone may employ them and still be able to sleep at night.
Learning to ballroom dance can be a life transformative activity as it was for the man Arthur Murray personally. But many people have trouble committing to the process of learning at a high enough level to really create the impact that they are looking for. Selling large packages of lessons creates commitment. Almost like paying for an all expense cruise. Once you take the big hit, then you are free to relax and learn. It works for people who have the money and for people who are comfortable saying "no" when they are being asked to buy something that they don't really want.
Ginger Rogers did everything Fred did…backwards and in high heels.
GivemTheAxe said:dimitrig said:HearstMining said:My ballroom credentials are three Beginning Ballroom classes in the 1970s-1980s with three different gals (I married the last one). Big Band / Swing had a renaissance during the late 1970s a la Bette Midler, etc. Anybody else ever go tea dancing at the SF Hyatt Regency on Friday evenings? And it had a second renaissance in the late 1990s (the movie Swingers, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, etc.). I'm not great, but I can waltz, foxtrot, east coast swing, and cha-cha. The best instruction I ever got was, "Gentlemen, ballroom dancing isn't about being a great dancer, it's about making your partner look and feel like she's a great dancer."evanluck said:
I'm a competitive ballroom dancer who started dancing 20 years ago at Arthur Murray. I saw the name of this thread and thought it was a mistake.
Many Arthur Murray studios do employ pretty aggressive sales tactics but being an independent teaching in the industry, I can see the origin of those tactics and how someone may employ them and still be able to sleep at night.
Learning to ballroom dance can be a life transformative activity as it was for the man Arthur Murray personally. But many people have trouble committing to the process of learning at a high enough level to really create the impact that they are looking for. Selling large packages of lessons creates commitment. Almost like paying for an all expense cruise. Once you take the big hit, then you are free to relax and learn. It works for people who have the money and for people who are comfortable saying "no" when they are being asked to buy something that they don't really want.
Ginger Rogers did everything Fred did…backwards and in high heels.
Yes But she never tap danced upside down on the ceiling like Fred did