Cal on par with Auburn and Texas A&M

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okaydo
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calumnus
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okaydo said:




Virginia Tech has a good shot at stopping at 5 with a win over Georgia Tech this weekend.

Northwestern goes to 6 playing Ohio State this weekend, then has a chance at ending it against Minnesota.

Cal probably gets to 6 then hopefully the losing ends against Stanford before it resumes.

I guess we can be thankful that Vanderbilt exists and plays in the SEC.
BadNewsBear1
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Cal's total should really be around 10 since one was to Colorado.
Strykur
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Good Lord Vandy

Also, our buyout situation is horrendous but Auburn's is worse and A&M, what a disaster.
75bear
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Someone should make a t-shirt that says "At least we're not Vandy".
Golden One
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75bear said:

Someone should make a t-shirt that says "At least we're not Vandy".
Yet. With Wilcox around for the next 5 years, we could well surpass Vandy.
calumnus
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Golden One said:

75bear said:

Someone should make a t-shirt that says "At least we're not Vandy".
Yet. With Wilcox around for the next 5 years, we could well surpass Vandy.


I was about to say, we still have Colorado, so it depends on who Colorado hires, but then I just remembered we lost to them at their nadir, having just fired their coach.
Dgoldnbaer
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Actually w/Christ & Knowlton around longer than Wilcox - it increases the chance of us catching Vandy.
HoopDreams
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Why is Auburn's coach getting the boot?

Weren't they a great program just 2-3 years ago?

Strykur said:

Good Lord Vandy

Also, our buyout situation is horrendous but Auburn's is worse and A&M, what a disaster.
Strykur
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HoopDreams said:

Why is Auburn's coach getting the boot?

Weren't they a great program just 2-3 years ago?
Strykur said:

Good Lord Vandy

Also, our buyout situation is horrendous but Auburn's is worse and A&M, what a disaster.

Auburn has the wildest variance in college football, from one season to the next they can be a playoff contender or 5-7.
ColoradoBear
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Would guess the payments to players at A&M and Auburn are not remotely on par with Cal.
okaydo
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HoopDreams said:

Why is Auburn's coach getting the boot?

Weren't they a great program just 2-3 years ago?

Strykur said:

Good Lord Vandy

Also, our buyout situation is horrendous but Auburn's is worse and A&M, what a disaster.


Imagine Cal hiring a guy from a different region of the country, him doing very poorly his first season and rubbing alums and boosters the wrong way.

I know it's hard to imagine that happening at Cal.

But it happened at Auburn.

And they really wanted him out after one season.

There was even a rumor circulated that ...


Dgoldnbaer
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If such is the case, I certainly can't blame him!
TexasAgInTheBay
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Best part of being a recent Cal fan is that now I get to wallow in my misery and yours!

Seems like the Ags have found a QB and that we're extremely young and don't use the portal at all. Now all that is on Jimbo. I won't lie, there are some questions about the trajectory. BUT the best part of the buyout is that he won't be hastily fired. Its been a terrible season. But Jimbo will get a shot at the 12 team playoff at the very least. And I still expect us to be in it.

Auburn and Michigan State are the two luck roller coaster riding programs. Up and down Coaches get fired and hired for just "using" their luck early. Then when things return to the mean it gets bad. Harsin was hated and undermined from day 1. The Gus Bus was a good coach for many year. Beat Saban a bunch. They gotta get a better hire.

My bold hot take is that Auburn and Bama are playing their last decade as big boys. Once Saban is done, they won't be able to compete with us, texas, Georgia, or Florida consistently. They don't have the university prestige, state demographics, or money to compete in the LONG run.
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TexasAgInTheBay said:

Best part of being a recent Cal fan is that now I get to wallow in my misery and yours!

Seems like the Ags have found a QB and that we're extremely young and don't use the portal at all. Now all that is on Jimbo. I won't lie, there are some questions about the trajectory. BUT the best part of the buyout is that he won't be hastily fired. Its been a terrible season. But Jimbo will get a shot at the 12 team playoff at the very least. And I still expect us to be in it.

Auburn and Michigan State are the two luck roller coaster riding programs. Up and down Coaches get fired and hired for just "using" their luck early. Then when things return to the mean it gets bad. Harsin was hated and undermined from day 1. The Gus Bus was a good coach for many year. Beat Saban a bunch. They gotta get a better hire.

My bold hot take is that Auburn and Bama are playing their last decade as big boys. Once Saban is done, they won't be able to compete with us, texas, Georgia, or Florida consistently. They don't have the university prestige, state demographics, or money to compete in the LONG run.
I have always wondered about the 'Bama success. Alway thought it was Tosh.
okaydo
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Dgoldnbaer said:

If such is the case, I certainly can't blame him!

I don't know if it's true. It seemed like a desperate attempt to have him fired for cause earlier this year.
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TexasAgInTheBay said:

My bold hot take is that Auburn and Bama are playing their last decade as big boys. Once Saban is done, they won't be able to compete with us, texas, Georgia, or Florida consistently. They don't have the university prestige, state demographics, or money to compete in the LONG run.
Bama has essentially been 2 coaches, Bryant and Saban (plus a title run with Gene Stallings sprinkled in there), even after Saban he will leave behind a carousel of coaches who have been around Tuscaloosa who could come in and have decent success, unless Bama gets slammed by the NCAA again like they were in the 2000s they are way too stocked up with fan and financial support to totally fall out of conference or title contention, although it may take a while to find another special coach to get them back to where they are now.

Or, Dabo Swinney decides to come home and Bama keeps rolling for another 20 years.
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TexasAgInTheBay said:

Best part of being a recent Cal fan is that now I get to wallow in my misery and yours!

Seems like the Ags have found a QB and that we're extremely young and don't use the portal at all. Now all that is on Jimbo. I won't lie, there are some questions about the trajectory. BUT the best part of the buyout is that he won't be hastily fired. Its been a terrible season. But Jimbo will get a shot at the 12 team playoff at the very least. And I still expect us to be in it.

Auburn and Michigan State are the two luck roller coaster riding programs. Up and down Coaches get fired and hired for just "using" their luck early. Then when things return to the mean it gets bad. Harsin was hated and undermined from day 1. The Gus Bus was a good coach for many year. Beat Saban a bunch. They gotta get a better hire.

My bold hot take is that Auburn and Bama are playing their last decade as big boys. Once Saban is done, they won't be able to compete with us, texas, Georgia, or Florida consistently. They don't have the university prestige, state demographics, or money to compete in the LONG run.
This is crazy. Bama has way too much invested in football. They will line up another great coach like Dabo or Lincoln Riley and they will hardly miss a beat
calumnus
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TexasAgInTheBay said:

Best part of being a recent Cal fan is that now I get to wallow in my misery and yours!

Seems like the Ags have found a QB and that we're extremely young and don't use the portal at all. Now all that is on Jimbo. I won't lie, there are some questions about the trajectory. BUT the best part of the buyout is that he won't be hastily fired. Its been a terrible season. But Jimbo will get a shot at the 12 team playoff at the very least. And I still expect us to be in it.

Auburn and Michigan State are the two luck roller coaster riding programs. Up and down Coaches get fired and hired for just "using" their luck early. Then when things return to the mean it gets bad. Harsin was hated and undermined from day 1. The Gus Bus was a good coach for many year. Beat Saban a bunch. They gotta get a better hire.

My bold hot take is that Auburn and Bama are playing their last decade as big boys. Once Saban is done, they won't be able to compete with us, texas, Georgia, or Florida consistently. They don't have the university prestige, state demographics, or money to compete in the LONG run.


Interesting thought. This next decade of college football will see tremendous change. Radical change in the market is usually not good for the current dominant firm. Saban intuitively knows that and is one of the biggest public opponents of NIL and other changes.

Alabama has benefited from a number of factors including more freely paying players than other schools but also the dominance of ESPN and cable TV and ESPN's "special" relationship with the SEC. NIL will eliminate the first advantage and the demise of cable and growth of streaming competition will reduce the second, as well as the addition of more better situated teams to the league.

Bama had a coaching advantage which they could maintain with their money advantage. Saban brought in coaches with West Cosst ties like Sark,Kiffen and Lupoi. The flow of talent reversed. Up until the early 70s, due to segregation, the SEC, with Bama as one of the last holdouts, was all white. African American players from the South went north, east or west to play, or played for HBCs. However we saw starting with Sark, Kiffen and Lupoi top players leave California to play in Tuscaloosa. Najee Harris from the East Bay as one that really hurt Cal. Lupoi, who has always recruited Polynesian players well due to being LDS and having an Italian name that sounds Tongan (and just going along with the misperception) even brought a top ranked Samoan QB from Hawaii to play QB for Alabama, something unthinkable even a decade ago. That ability to recruit the top West Coast players in addition to the usual SEC base in the South, gave Bama an advantage over their SEC competition. However, that will now devolve to the highest NIL offer.

So yes, I would short Bama stock.

Unfortunately, I would not buy Cal stock until there is a shareholder revolt to remove the current management for their malfeasance. If they remain in place the firm could be bankrupt in ten years.
okaydo
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75bear said:

Someone should make a t-shirt that says "At least we're not Vandy".


75bear
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okaydo said:

75bear said:

Someone should make a t-shirt that says "At least we're not Vandy".



Must be a slow news day at Message Board Geniuses.
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Bobodeluxe
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I blame the City of Berkeley.
calumnus
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okaydo said:







Wow. At least we are not Vandy, yet. Maybe we will hire Rolovich to keep up?
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Nice to see us moving up. This is fantastic, Vandy now has t-shirts that say "At least we aren't Cal"
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