Drama

Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

Yuck. The embodiment of all that is wrong with NIL.

Don't worry - we can't afford him.

Rashada is Rod Tidwell, Florida is Jerry Maguire.

Isn't that five skoolz in about a year? This dude gets it.

Laundry models will get theirs.

Bobodeluxe said:

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Isn't that five skoolz in about a year? This dude gets it.

Laundry models will get theirs.

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What's this even mean?

SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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X1000..

Dudes into money. I get it. From what I've read, it appears the Florida NIL folks are reneging and he's not showing up until he gets his money. It's a Mexican Standoff. Fun to watch since it isn't our issue.

juarezbear said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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X1000..

Dudes into money. I get it. From what I've read, it appears the Florida NIL folks are reneging and he's not showing up until he gets his money. It's a Mexican Standoff. Fun to watch since it isn't our issue.

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Not too hard to understand for some.

Careful what you say. This guy and his family are going to burn a lot of bridges and I can easily see him coming back to the Bay Area for a chance to start. We were in his final 8 and he is a raw talent.

MilleniaBear said:

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Careful what you say. This guy and his family are going to burn a lot of bridges and I can easily see him coming back to the Bay Area for a chance to start. We were in his final 8 and he is a raw talent.

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He is a huge talent and he clearly liked Cal.

m2bear said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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Isn't that five skoolz in about a year? This dude gets it.

Laundry models will get theirs.

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What's this even mean?

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Yeah I mean don't most models model laundry?

MilleniaBear said:

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Careful what you say. This guy and his family are going to burn a lot of bridges and I can easily see him coming back to the Bay Area for a chance to start. We were in his final 8 and he is a raw talent.

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If I had a dollar for every guy who had us in his final 8 and still went elsewhere...

heartofthebear said:

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MilleniaBear said:

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Careful what you say. This guy and his family are going to burn a lot of bridges and I can easily see him coming back to the Bay Area for a chance to start. We were in his final 8 and he is a raw talent.

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If I had a dollar for every guy who had us in his final 8 and still went elsewhere...

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It's the poser flex, like pictures of a dude with kids or dogs in a dating profile. Im semi serious about academics!

heartofthebear said:

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MilleniaBear said:

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Careful what you say. This guy and his family are going to burn a lot of bridges and I can easily see him coming back to the Bay Area for a chance to start. We were in his final 8 and he is a raw talent.

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If I had a dollar for every guy who had us in his final 8 and still went elsewhere...

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Sure, on average you'd likely have 7 times more money than if you had a dollar for every guy who had us in his final 8 and chose us.

MilleniaBear said:

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Careful what you say. This guy and his family are going to burn a lot of bridges and I can easily see him coming back to the Bay Area for a chance to start. We were in his final 8 and he is a raw talent.

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<sarcasm mode on>Yeah, now that we have Sam Jackson, we could probably use another QB to hold the clipboard and be ready just in case he's needed.<sarcasm mode off>

SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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Exactly. 5 star true freshman QB from the East Bay who loves Cal, of course we want him. Given the money Miami was offering, can't blame him for choosing them. The fact that they screwed him over should not be held against him. This is just one of many issues that are going to arise in the NIL era.

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GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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Exactly. 5 star true freshman QB from the East Bay who loves Cal, of course we want him. Given the money Miami was offering, can't blame him for choosing them. The fact that they screwed him over should not be held against him. This is just one of many issues that are going to arise in the NIL era.

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95% agree with you w the caveat the fact his family has let his narrative be (mis)construed as NIL money should be held against them. That's entirely within his family's control.

There are other 5*s and well-compensated players out there but very few of them have these stories come out about them.

GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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My feeling is there There are guys who want to get some money, there are guys who want "fair" money as part of a total package, then their are guys for whom money is their primary factor. Rashada appears to be in the last category. I worry those types of guys aren't for Cal. Will they care about the team? Will they get up and go to that 8am class? Will they bail the second someone offers more? The risk of extraneous issue which ultimately affect the locker room, APR, etc put me in the camp that says he isn't the right type of person for Cal, even if he is insanely talented physically

Interesting...

Played freshman season (2019) at Brentwood (Calif.) Liberty before moving to IMG Academy in Bradenton, Fla. Moved to Pittsburg (Calif.) for an abbreviated five-game sophomore season in Spring 2021. Also has played baseball during high school career.

***

PROJECTION
First Round
COMPARISON
Jared Goff
LOS ANGELES RAMS?

Does anyone know what Miami offered Rashada before they backed out? How about Florida?

Go Bears!

calumnus said:

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GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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Exactly. 5 star true freshman QB from the East Bay who loves Cal, of course we want him. Given the money Miami was offering, can't blame him for choosing them. The fact that they screwed him over should not be held against him. This is just one of many issues that are going to arise in the NIL era.

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I'm not so sure. If he loves Cal, wouldn't he have come back after Miami bolloxed things up? No. He saw more money at FL and now is toying with someone else.Let's concentrate on the guys who want to be here like the Sam Jacksons of the world.

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GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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My feeling is there There are guys who want to get some money, there are guys who want "fair" money as part of a total package, then their are guys for whom money is their primary factor. Rashada appears to be in the last category. I worry those types of guys aren't for Cal. Will they care about the team? Will they get up and go to that 8am class? Will they bail the second someone offers more? The risk of extraneous issue which ultimately affect the locker room, APR, etc put me in the camp that says he isn't the right type of person for Cal, even if he is insanely talented physically

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Such a bad take...if the NIL issue as described above is true.

Let's tell a different story:

You are interviewing for a new job and are lucky enough to get multiple job offers. One of them is from Microsoft. As part of that offer you negotiate a significant sign on bonus. You were able to do the same with your other offers, but maybe this one is the biggest bonus or the combination of the job responsibilities and the bonus make it the best offer. You accept their offer.

Microsoft happens to run payroll on the 15th and said that is when they said they would process your bonus. You start on the 20th. On the 15th they don't process your sign-on bonus like they said they would. You follow-up and they say that they have changed their mind and your offer no longer has a sign on bonus.

You are telling me you show up anyhow no questions asked?

And if you didn't show up that would imply you weren't a team player? In this case not the type of person who is willing to step up and be a good employee for a company that you have never worked for before? Probably wouldn't get up for 8am meetings or do their share on a team project?

Maybe you can use this as a filtering mechanism for new hires where you work? Promise something and then take it away and see if they still show up. You will certainly retain your top talent.

GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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Ole Miss but then Florida on signing day, anyone but us when the NIL money was flowing. Not hard to understand, he's not about the program, coaches, location. His handlers are about the dollars only. NOT OKG

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Does anyone know what Miami offered Rashada before they backed out? How about Florida?

Go Bears!

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Miami, Ole Miss, Florida, yeah we should be really high on this guy. Not worth it, g'night

calbear80 said:

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Does anyone know what Miami offered Rashada before they backed out? How about Florida?

Go Bears!

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The Orlando Sentinel says $13M from Florida. Rumor mill says $9M from Miami.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/10a0pte/uf_on_verge_of_losing_top_qb_recruit_jaden/

It's hard to believe anyone would pay that type of money to a high school player, any high school player. Based on everything I've read, he didn't have a great senior year. I wonder how an agreement like that is structured. Is it a four year deal? Is it guaranteed whether he plays or not because a lot of these players never really pan out. I would think portal players area better investment because you have some idea how good they might be.

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calbear80 said:

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Does anyone know what Miami offered Rashada before they backed out? How about Florida?

Go Bears!

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The Orlando Sentinel says $13M from Florida. Rumor mill says $9M from Miami.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/10a0pte/uf_on_verge_of_losing_top_qb_recruit_jaden/

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C'mon people. Imagine when you were 17 or 18 applying for college, sure you loved Cal, but then someone offered you $9 million to attend the University of Miami instead of Cal and then took you on a "tour" of South Beach? $9 million? Miami? You grew up watching "Ballers"? $9 million?

Don't hold it against the kid. Let it play out.

aws56 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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My feeling is there There are guys who want to get some money, there are guys who want "fair" money as part of a total package, then their are guys for whom money is their primary factor. Rashada appears to be in the last category. I worry those types of guys aren't for Cal. Will they care about the team? Will they get up and go to that 8am class? Will they bail the second someone offers more? The risk of extraneous issue which ultimately affect the locker room, APR, etc put me in the camp that says he isn't the right type of person for Cal, even if he is insanely talented physically

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Such a bad take...if the NIL issue as described above is true.

Let's tell a different story:

You are interviewing for a new job and are lucky enough to get multiple job offers. One of them is from Microsoft. As part of that offer you negotiate a significant sign on bonus. You were able to do the same with your other offers, but maybe this one is the biggest bonus or the combination of the job responsibilities and the bonus make it the best offer. You accept their offer.

Microsoft happens to run payroll on the 15th and said that is when they said they would process your bonus. You start on the 20th. On the 15th they don't process your sign-on bonus like they said they would. You follow-up and they say that they have changed their mind and your offer no longer has a sign on bonus.

You are telling me you show up anyhow no questions asked?

And if you didn't show up that would imply you weren't a team player? In this case not the type of person who is willing to step up and be a good employee for a company that you have never worked for before? Probably wouldn't get up for 8am meetings or do their share on a team project?

Maybe you can use this as a filtering mechanism for new hires where you work? Promise something and then take it away and see if they still show up. You will certainly retain your top talent.

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I believe you are mistakenly inferring that my comment about him being all about the money was due to him not showing up to Florida. That is incorrect. I agree that he is getting screwed on that because the NIL collective isn't living up to its end of the bargain.

My feeling that he's all about the money is due to other stuff, but I won't belabor the point.

tequila4kapp said:

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aws56 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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My feeling is there There are guys who want to get some money, there are guys who want "fair" money as part of a total package, then their are guys for whom money is their primary factor. Rashada appears to be in the last category. I worry those types of guys aren't for Cal. Will they care about the team? Will they get up and go to that 8am class? Will they bail the second someone offers more? The risk of extraneous issue which ultimately affect the locker room, APR, etc put me in the camp that says he isn't the right type of person for Cal, even if he is insanely talented physically

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Such a bad take...if the NIL issue as described above is true.

Let's tell a different story:

You are interviewing for a new job and are lucky enough to get multiple job offers. One of them is from Microsoft. As part of that offer you negotiate a significant sign on bonus. You were able to do the same with your other offers, but maybe this one is the biggest bonus or the combination of the job responsibilities and the bonus make it the best offer. You accept their offer.

Microsoft happens to run payroll on the 15th and said that is when they said they would process your bonus. You start on the 20th. On the 15th they don't process your sign-on bonus like they said they would. You follow-up and they say that they have changed their mind and your offer no longer has a sign on bonus.

You are telling me you show up anyhow no questions asked?

And if you didn't show up that would imply you weren't a team player? In this case not the type of person who is willing to step up and be a good employee for a company that you have never worked for before? Probably wouldn't get up for 8am meetings or do their share on a team project?

Maybe you can use this as a filtering mechanism for new hires where you work? Promise something and then take it away and see if they still show up. You will certainly retain your top talent.

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I believe you are mistakenly inferring that my comment about him being all about the money was due to him not showing up to Florida. That is incorrect. I agree that he is getting screwed on that because the NIL collective isn't living up to its end of the bargain.

My feeling that he's all about the money is due to other stuff, but I won't belabor the point.

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That's how I read your comment but appreciate you clarifying a bit.

I don't know anything about this QB or family situation. I guess I wonder if being all about the money, at least at this point, is actually a pragmatic pov to have. This is more a general question, not trying to stoke a debate with you specifically.

Making the NFL is a crapshoot, even for a top recruit. So many flame out, get injured etc. Depending on life circumstances maybe the smartest choice is to squeeze every $ you can right now. That of course depends on family financial situation, academic profile, likelihood of future employment prospects. Can't say I can comment on any of that here specifically but I could see an athlete or a family/handlers putting $ first. It might seem distasteful but also might be the "smart" move.

aws56 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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aws56 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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My feeling is there There are guys who want to get some money, there are guys who want "fair" money as part of a total package, then their are guys for whom money is their primary factor. Rashada appears to be in the last category. I worry those types of guys aren't for Cal. Will they care about the team? Will they get up and go to that 8am class? Will they bail the second someone offers more? The risk of extraneous issue which ultimately affect the locker room, APR, etc put me in the camp that says he isn't the right type of person for Cal, even if he is insanely talented physically

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Such a bad take...if the NIL issue as described above is true.

Let's tell a different story:

You are interviewing for a new job and are lucky enough to get multiple job offers. One of them is from Microsoft. As part of that offer you negotiate a significant sign on bonus. You were able to do the same with your other offers, but maybe this one is the biggest bonus or the combination of the job responsibilities and the bonus make it the best offer. You accept their offer.

Microsoft happens to run payroll on the 15th and said that is when they said they would process your bonus. You start on the 20th. On the 15th they don't process your sign-on bonus like they said they would. You follow-up and they say that they have changed their mind and your offer no longer has a sign on bonus.

You are telling me you show up anyhow no questions asked?

And if you didn't show up that would imply you weren't a team player? In this case not the type of person who is willing to step up and be a good employee for a company that you have never worked for before? Probably wouldn't get up for 8am meetings or do their share on a team project?

Maybe you can use this as a filtering mechanism for new hires where you work? Promise something and then take it away and see if they still show up. You will certainly retain your top talent.

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I believe you are mistakenly inferring that my comment about him being all about the money was due to him not showing up to Florida. That is incorrect. I agree that he is getting screwed on that because the NIL collective isn't living up to its end of the bargain.

My feeling that he's all about the money is due to other stuff, but I won't belabor the point.

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That's how I read your comment but appreciate you clarifying a bit.

I don't know anything about this QB or family situation. I guess I wonder if being all about the money, at least at this point, is actually a pragmatic pov to have. This is more a general question, not trying to stoke a debate with you specifically.

Making the NFL is a crapshoot, even for a top recruit. So many flame out, get injured etc. Depending on life circumstances maybe the smartest choice is to squeeze every $ you can right now. That of course depends on family financial situation, academic profile, likelihood of future employment prospects. Can't say I can comment on any of that here specifically but I could see an athlete or a family/handlers putting $ first. It might seem distasteful but also might be the "smart" move.

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As I said above, as much as I loved Cal, if when I was 18 someone had offered me $9 million to go to the University of Miami instead of Cal, it would not have been a question. Maybe I go to Cal for grad school if I am not already on the way to turning that $9 million into generational wealth.

A family of real, true, assh--ls!!
Don't even want to play this jerk-0ff.
A true **** head with father in drag

EatTrees said:

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A family of real, true, assh--ls!!
Don't even want to play this jerk-0ff.
A true **** head with father in drag

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So you sayin' we'd take him in a second?

calumnus said:

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aws56 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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aws56 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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GMP said:

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SBGold said:

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Keep him and his dad the heck away from our program

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I don't really get this sentiment. Maybe you know more than me. The kid agreed to go to Florida based on promises of payment. Florida has not held up its end of the bargain, so now he seems to be hesitant to go there. Would any of us do differently in our own careers? Why is this different?

Our coaches wanted this guy. Why should we keep him away from the program if he's available?

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My feeling is there There are guys who want to get some money, there are guys who want "fair" money as part of a total package, then their are guys for whom money is their primary factor. Rashada appears to be in the last category. I worry those types of guys aren't for Cal. Will they care about the team? Will they get up and go to that 8am class? Will they bail the second someone offers more? The risk of extraneous issue which ultimately affect the locker room, APR, etc put me in the camp that says he isn't the right type of person for Cal, even if he is insanely talented physically

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Such a bad take...if the NIL issue as described above is true.

Let's tell a different story:

You are interviewing for a new job and are lucky enough to get multiple job offers. One of them is from Microsoft. As part of that offer you negotiate a significant sign on bonus. You were able to do the same with your other offers, but maybe this one is the biggest bonus or the combination of the job responsibilities and the bonus make it the best offer. You accept their offer.

Microsoft happens to run payroll on the 15th and said that is when they said they would process your bonus. You start on the 20th. On the 15th they don't process your sign-on bonus like they said they would. You follow-up and they say that they have changed their mind and your offer no longer has a sign on bonus.

You are telling me you show up anyhow no questions asked?

And if you didn't show up that would imply you weren't a team player? In this case not the type of person who is willing to step up and be a good employee for a company that you have never worked for before? Probably wouldn't get up for 8am meetings or do their share on a team project?

Maybe you can use this as a filtering mechanism for new hires where you work? Promise something and then take it away and see if they still show up. You will certainly retain your top talent.

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I believe you are mistakenly inferring that my comment about him being all about the money was due to him not showing up to Florida. That is incorrect. I agree that he is getting screwed on that because the NIL collective isn't living up to its end of the bargain.

My feeling that he's all about the money is due to other stuff, but I won't belabor the point.

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That's how I read your comment but appreciate you clarifying a bit.

I don't know anything about this QB or family situation. I guess I wonder if being all about the money, at least at this point, is actually a pragmatic pov to have. This is more a general question, not trying to stoke a debate with you specifically.

Making the NFL is a crapshoot, even for a top recruit. So many flame out, get injured etc. Depending on life circumstances maybe the smartest choice is to squeeze every $ you can right now. That of course depends on family financial situation, academic profile, likelihood of future employment prospects. Can't say I can comment on any of that here specifically but I could see an athlete or a family/handlers putting $ first. It might seem distasteful but also might be the "smart" move.

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As I said above, as much as I loved Cal, if when I was 18 someone had offered me $9 million to go to the University of Miami instead of Cal, it would not have been a question. Maybe I go to Cal for grad school if I am not already on the way to turning that $9 million into generational wealth.

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Caleb Williams is getting around $ 3-4 million/year and that is with Heisman. Last years he made $2 million. Who came up with the $9M number for Rashada? .