https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35467992/qb-shrout-intends-leave-colorado-enter-portal-sources-say

should we be interested?

bluehenbear said:

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35467992/qb-shrout-intends-leave-colorado-enter-portal-sources-say

should we be interested?

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He's not good.

Would make a lot of sense IMO. California guy. Steady, if unspectacular, veteran presence. Seems like a good fit to back up/complement Sam Jackson (who has massive upside but is very much an unknown).

Shrout also doesn't seem to be at a level that would make Sam Jackson feel threatened/get cold feet.

Won't be easy to attract any high level veteran/grad transfer types with Sam Jackson on the roster.

A steady, unspectacular veteran might be the type of QB the staff needs to target.

Strout is good as a replacement for Milner and the possibility to compete for the starting position.

ManBearLion123 said:

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Would make a lot of sense IMO. California guy. Steady, if unspectacular, veteran presence. Seems like a good fit to back up/complement Sam Jackson (who has massive upside but is very much an unknown).

Shrout also doesn't seem to be at a level that would make Sam Jackson feel threatened/get cold feet.

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And after playing at Colorado the past few years, he will have a lot of strong experience with a similar sort of losing culture to that Wilcox has cultivated.

Colorado beat Cal because of Shrout. He'd be the perfect depth veteran in Cal's qb room IMO. But I doubt he wants to transfer to a place where he's not the front runner to start.

BearGoggles said:

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Colorado beat Cal because of Shrout. He'd be the perfect depth veteran in Cal's qb room IMO. But I doubt he wants to transfer to a place where he's not the front runner to start.

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He may have had a good game, but I would argue we lost vs. Colorado because we sucked.

I think Cal/Shrout would actually be a pretty great mutual fit.

Shrout's past performance is not going to make him a frontrunner to start at any P5 or mid-major school, IMO.

But, given that Sam Jackson is so inexperienced and is an unknown in terms of gameday performance, the opportunity to compete with him and, at the very least, serve as his backup, might be enticing.

Might be Shrout's best chance to find himself getting PT on a P5 team.

KoreAmBear said:

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bluehenbear said:

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35467992/qb-shrout-intends-leave-colorado-enter-portal-sources-say

should we be interested?

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He's not good.

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Agree. He is bad.

Career: 127 of 272 (46.7 %) for 1,724 yards 12 TDs 11 Int 106 QBR

41 "rushing" attempts for -7 yards.

Why bring in a proven immobile, inaccurate, turnover machine? Can someone who wants him explain what they see in him?

ManBearLion123 said:

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I think Cal/Shrout would actually be a pretty great mutual fit.

Shrout's past performance is not going to make him a frontrunner to start at any P5 or mid-major school, IMO.

But, given that Sam Jackson is so inexperienced and is an unknown in terms of gameday performance, the opportunity to compete with him and, at the very least, serve as his backup, might be enticing.

Might be Shrout's best chance to find himself getting PT on a P5 team.

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I agree that it makes sense for us as we're (largely) assuming he'd come in to fill our need for an experienced backup and that he hasn't been hiding his potential all these years, but I'm not sure if makes sense for him unless the Cal degree overrides a surefire chance to start elsewhere. Is he interested in a competition at this point in his career or would he hope for a Plummer type situation where he's walking into a mostly open QB spot?

You can argue that Jackson and Millner would be both in that spot of young, inexperienced QB to compete against but the fact that we proactively brought in Jackson whereas Millner was already present and we still brought in a transfer in Plummer makes a difference. Also by now Jackson actually has 1 more year of experience (Redshirt Sophomore) compared to where Millner was when Plummer came in (Redshirt Freshman).

bearsandgiants said:

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BearGoggles said:

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Colorado beat Cal because of Shrout. He'd be the perfect depth veteran in Cal's qb room IMO. But I doubt he wants to transfer to a place where he's not the front runner to start.

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He may have had a good game, but I would argue we lost vs. Colorado because we sucked.

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Agree we lost to Colorado because of Musgrave. Cal should have won that game going away if the OC had been even a little creative.

Difference is that Plummer actually had a decent track record as an occasional starter at Purdue.

Shrout's performance so far has been far less inspiring than Plummer at Purdue.

The only open QB room available to him would likely be at the FCS level (a la Millner). And being a backup to an unknown at a P5 school might be more enticing to Shrout than being a starter at a low level program.

Since Cal is now down to Jackson and Mendoza, there has to be some new signing.

GivemTheAxe said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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BearGoggles said:

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Colorado beat Cal because of Shrout. He'd be the perfect depth veteran in Cal's qb room IMO. But I doubt he wants to transfer to a place where he's not the front runner to start.

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He may have had a good game, but I would argue we lost vs. Colorado because we sucked.

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Agree we list to Colorado because of Musgrave. Cal should have won that game going away if the OC had been even a little creative.

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Only 1 TD, only 13 points (shut out in the first half) against the absolute worst (#131 out of 131) defense in the country, a team that gave up 47.4 points on average in the rest of their games!

Square jaw!

ncbears said:

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Since Cal is now down to Jackson and Mendoza, there has to be some new signing.

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I was about to say we still have Zach Johnson, then I saw he just entered the portal.

Justyn Martin transferring in Spring. Calling it here first.

hood bear=clairvoyant genius

why bring in a dude that is mediocre at who decommitted and didn't want to be at Cal a couple years ago?

ncbears said:

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Since Cal is now down to Jackson and Mendoza, there has to be some new signing.

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we don't even have enough QBs to have scout QBs. yeah we need to add some QBs

flounder said:

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why bring in a dude that is mediocre at who decommitted and didn't want to be at Cal a couple years ago?

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Would you have wanted to play for Musgrave or in his offense at Cal? In hindsight, its hard to say Martin was wrong even if he was recruited over.

I'd take him - seems like a good fit for Spav's offense and likely got good coaching as UCLA.

GivemTheAxe said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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BearGoggles said:

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Colorado beat Cal because of Shrout. He'd be the perfect depth veteran in Cal's qb room IMO. But I doubt he wants to transfer to a place where he's not the front runner to start.

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He may have had a good game, but I would argue we lost vs. Colorado because we sucked.

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Agree we lost to Colorado because of Musgrave. Cal should have won that game going away if the OC had been even a little creative.

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And even still, Colorado doesn't win unless Shrout comes off the bench to make some huge plays for CO.

Yeah - Cal should have won the game. But CO doesn't win without Shrout's strong play.

ncbears said:

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Since Cal is now down to Jackson and Mendoza, there has to be some new signing.

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nope

BearGoggles said:

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flounder said:

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why bring in a dude that is mediocre at who decommitted and didn't want to be at Cal a couple years ago?

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Would you have wanted to play for Musgrave or in his offense at Cal? In hindsight, its hard to say Martin was wrong even if he was recruited over.

I'd take him - seems like a good fit for Spav's offense and likely got good coaching as UCLA.

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Agreed. Also, it was just last year.

zero chance jt sprouts is gonna happen

ncbears said:

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Since Cal is now down to Jackson and Mendoza, there has to be some new signing.

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Who's the best passer among our three 4-star running backs? I'm only halfway kidding...

HoopDreams said:

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ncbears said:

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Since Cal is now down to Jackson and Mendoza, there has to be some new signing.

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we don't even have enough QBs to have scout QBs. yeah we need to add some QBs

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Pretty sure we have at least 2 walk-on QBs.

bearsandgiants said:

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BearGoggles said:

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Colorado beat Cal because of Shrout. He'd be the perfect depth veteran in Cal's qb room IMO. But I doubt he wants to transfer to a place where he's not the front runner to start.

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He may have had a good game, but I would argue we lost vs. Colorado because we sucked.

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You made me laugh.
Shrout is hot and cold and he was against Cal.
He was hot at the right time to win the game against a team that played about as bad as even any Cal team has played in recent memory save the covid enhanced disaster in Tucson the year prior. And really it was the WR that made that play happen. That was an NFL level play from the WR.

That doesn't mean I think he couldn't add needed depth at Cal. And he seems to play better coming off the bench. If he sees himself as a starter he must be targeting the MAC or some conference like that. He's not going to get a starting job on a P5 team imo, unless Rutgers needs a QB. I mean, if you can't win a QB job on the 2022 version of the Colorado Buffalos where are you going to go that has less competition?

I'm having trouble seeing how Spavitol would want him. He isn't really very mobile as I recall. I think Millner was more mobile than he is.

heart, if u read the monster u would know spav is gonna roll with 2 scholly qbs this spring & then recruit another one from the portal when it reopens in may

zero chance jt sprouts is gonna end up in berkeley

sorry, shop at whole foods & get a 32 oz green drink, ok?

calumnus said:

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HoopDreams said:

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ncbears said:

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Since Cal is now down to Jackson and Mendoza, there has to be some new signing.

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we don't even have enough QBs to have scout QBs. yeah we need to add some QBs

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Pretty sure we have at least 2 walk-on QBs.

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Four arms no enough for spring ball. But coaches and GAs can always throw to receivers in a pinch. So assuming we have at least 2 walk-ons and no one gets hurt, there very good chance we can run drills in Spring ball.

Shocky1 said:

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heart, if u read the monster u would know spav is gonna roll with 2 scholly qbs this spring & then recruit another one from the portal when it reopens in may

zero chance jt sprouts is gonna end up in berkeley

sorry, shop at whole foods & get a 32 oz green drink, ok?

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works for me....especially if we get...you know.

The way Jackson spectacularly runnnng the ball, wiht lots of cuts, is likely to get him injured than most QB's. Spav needs to coach him out of doing that so often and, if he doesn't know how to slide to end the play Jacksn needs to be taught that. BTW, I think his best college tape at TCU is against a nobody opponent, probably making him look better than he actually is.

We do really need to have at least three QB's on our roster and maybe even four. Wonder what the normal number is for Power 5 teams?

heartofthebear said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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BearGoggles said:

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Colorado beat Cal because of Shrout. He'd be the perfect depth veteran in Cal's qb room IMO. But I doubt he wants to transfer to a place where he's not the front runner to start.

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He may have had a good game, but I would argue we lost vs. Colorado because we sucked.

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You made me laugh.
Shrout is hot and cold and he was against Cal.
He was hot at the right time to win the game against a team that played about as bad as even any Cal team has played in recent memory save the covid enhanced disaster in Tucson the year prior. And really it was the WR that made that play happen. That was an NFL level play from the WR.

That doesn't mean I think he couldn't add needed depth at Cal. And he seems to play better coming off the bench. If he sees himself as a starter he must be targeting the MAC or some conference like that. He's not going to get a starting job on a P5 team imo, unless Rutgers needs a QB. I mean, if you can't win a QB job on the 2022 version of the Colorado Buffalos where are you going to go that has less competition?

I'm having trouble seeing how Spavitol would want him. He isn't really very mobile as I recall. I think Millner was more mobile than he is.

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Name me one school in the Pac 12 where Shrout could be a starter. I don't think there is one.

Gobears49 said:

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The way Jackson spectacularly runnnng the ball, wiht lots of cuts, is likely to get him injured than most QB's. Spav needs to coach him out of doing that so often and, if he doesn't know how to slide to end the play Jacksn needs to be taught that. BTW, I think his best college tape at TCU is against a nobody opponent, probably making him look better than he actually is.

We do really need to have at least three QB's on our roster and maybe even four. Wonder what the normal number is for Power 5 teams?

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Why do you bring up "Power 5 teams"?