Half the post season pie already eaten

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Blueblood
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The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
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Blueblood said:

... but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
Why the concern over ASU? They were crappy last year. This year good ol' Beau Baldwin is their OC.
Blueblood
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southseasbear said:

Blueblood said:

... but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
Why the concern over ASU? They were crappy last year. This year good ol' Beau Baldwin is their OC.
Because of over 40 new incomers via the portal and regular recruiting, Cal will not be facing last years Sun Devil team; they still may play like last years team, but who knows? Plus, Cal didn't play that far from "crappy."
southseasbear
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Blueblood said:

southseasbear said:

Blueblood said:

... but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
Why the concern over ASU? They were crappy last year. This year good ol' Beau Baldwin is their OC.
Because of over 40 new incomers via the portal and regular recruiting, Cal will not be facing last years Sun Devil team; they still may play like last years team, but who knows? Plus, Cal didn't play that far from "crappy."
But . . . Beau Baldwin. When was the last time he coached well?
calumnus
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southseasbear said:

Blueblood said:

southseasbear said:

Blueblood said:

... but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
Why the concern over ASU? They were crappy last year. This year good ol' Beau Baldwin is their OC.
Because of over 40 new incomers via the portal and regular recruiting, Cal will not be facing last years Sun Devil team; they still may play like last years team, but who knows? Plus, Cal didn't play that far from "crappy."
But . . . Beau Baldwin. When was the last time he coached well?


He didn't exactly tear it up at SLO and got fired* Meanwhile EWU continues to be good without him. Yeah, really bad hire by ASU

*During the remainder of his tenure with the Mustangs, Baldwin coached his teams to only 4 wins, held a lead in only 9 games, and was outscored by halftime of those games by 429 points.[7] Baldwin finished his time in San Luis Obispo with the fewest number of wins by any Cal Poly head coach through their first 25 games in school history.[8] Baldwin had an 05 record versus in-state rivals UC Davis and Sacramento State as Cal Poly's head coach
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Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.
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wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.


What did Wilcox say about the defense a year ago? Because we were not good last year, in fact as bad as our offense was, it was ranked higher than our defense. We need a huge improvement on both sides of the ball. Which only adds to your "who knows?"



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calumnus said:

wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.


What did Wilcox say about the defense a year ago? Because we were not good last year, in fact as bad as our offense was, it was ranked higher than our defense. We need a huge improvement on both sides of the ball. Which only adds to your "who knows?"




As per this: https://www.bcftoys.com/2022-ppd/

We were 10th in the pac12 in offensive points per drive (89th overall)
We were 4th in the pac12 in defensive points per drive (94th overall)

The top two teams in offensive points per drive were both in the Pac12 (USC and Washington). There were 4 in the top 10, with a 5th sitting at number 12. That's nearly half the conference being the best offenses in the nation. Our offense did remarkably poorly (compared to our peers).

Defensively Oregon state was the best in the Pac12 at 17th nationally. The Pac12 had 2 others in the top 50, then us at 94 nationally, 4th in the conference. Given how bad defenses were in the Pac12 relative to the offenses, our defense did remarkably well (compared to our peers) last year.

Stats:

Offensive stats:
Team, OPD, OPD Rk Nationally
Washington, 3.76, 2
USC, 3.76, 1
Oregon, 3.59, 5
UCLA, 3.57, 6
Utah, 3.14, 12
Oregon State, 2.68, 31
Arizona, 2.65, 32
Arizona State, 2.29, 57
Washington State, 2.24, 64
California, 1.86, 89
Stanford, 1.65, 108
Colorado, 1.08, 126


Defensive stats:
Team, DPD,DPD Rk (nationally)
Oregon State,1.68,17
Washington State, 2.02, 46
Utah,2.06, 47
California, 2.46, 94
Oregon, 2.49, 96
Washington, 2.6, 102
UCLA, 2.7, 105
USC, 2.8, 111
Stanford, 3.04, 124
Arizona State, 3.19, 126
Arizona, 3.41, 128
Colorado, 3.78, 130


wifeisafurd
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calumnus said:

wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.


What did Wilcox say about the defense a year ago? Because we were not good last year, in fact as bad as our offense was, it was ranked higher than our defense. We need a huge improvement on both sides of the ball. Which only adds to your "who knows?"




My recollection was he said they were young generally but had talent, and the dline was impacted by missing players (this is a major paraphrase). In fact, there were several articles about the defense, such as one in the other site called "Cal's 2022 Defense: The Great Unknown." Wilcox did try to limit expectations on defense. OTPH, he thought the offense would be better.

Cal's 2022 defense finished 6h in points allowed in 2022 Pac. If the Cal offense finishes 6th in 2023 in points scored, expect Cal to have a good season.
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Blueblood said:

The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
It's a daunting schedule this year for sure. But the games never completely turn out according to ranking. Under Wilcox most of the the losses are close. Just need a season where things bounce right more than they bounce wrong. This mostly happens because of the confidence level of the players. As fans we can help by our belief. The only thing we risk is disappointment.

Much better at this stage to indulge in the hype rather than looking at the somber side of the facts and preparing for the worst. We risk nothing in believing in the team at this stage. They are the ones doing all the work. But the random luck of the ball bouncing the right way on key plays is a product of the collective positive belief of people who focus on the team. Obviously players and coaches have the greatest influence but the effect of fans is not zero.

We always point to common threads associated with Cal's under performance over the years. The administration is the biggest target. But another common thread is the general attitude of the some of most engaged fans that Cal is somehow, at the level of its DNA, a losing brand. Only true because enough people have chosen to believe it to be true. Beliefs are thoughts we keep thinking. Change the thought to change the belief to change the experience!

Go Bears! Let's go Bowling!
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Blueblood said:

The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?

Half of those teams will probably finish the season lower ranked than that, or not ranked at all. I'd bet we beat at least one of these teams, maybe two (and probably lose to 1-2 teams that aren't on that list, of course, probably Auburn).

Which is why I'm predicting 6-6!

What our schedule looks like it will be in June (in terms of difficulty) rarely turns out that way.
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This thread reminds me of the annual hype cycle I go through with Cal football. I will latch on to things that seem hopeful, thereby heightening the reckoning that will happen as the summer hype cycle gives way to the autumnal trough of disillusionment.

I do think if Cal could find some semblance of an offense, this team could surprise on the upside. **

** Hype cycle internal voice
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MrGPAC said:

calumnus said:

wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.


What did Wilcox say about the defense a year ago? Because we were not good last year, in fact as bad as our offense was, it was ranked higher than our defense. We need a huge improvement on both sides of the ball. Which only adds to your "who knows?"




As per this: https://www.bcftoys.com/2022-ppd/

We were 10th in the pac12 in offensive points per drive (89th overall)
We were 4th in the pac12 in defensive points per drive (94th overall)

The top two teams in offensive points per drive were both in the Pac12 (USC and Washington). There were 4 in the top 10, with a 5th sitting at number 12. That's nearly half the conference being the best offenses in the nation. Our offense did remarkably poorly (compared to our peers).

Defensively Oregon state was the best in the Pac12 at 17th nationally. The Pac12 had 2 others in the top 50, then us at 94 nationally, 4th in the conference. Given how bad defenses were in the Pac12 relative to the offenses, our defense did remarkably well (compared to our peers) last year.

Stats:

Offensive stats:
Team, OPD, OPD Rk Nationally
Washington, 3.76, 2
USC, 3.76, 1
Oregon, 3.59, 5
UCLA, 3.57, 6
Utah, 3.14, 12
Oregon State, 2.68, 31
Arizona, 2.65, 32
Arizona State, 2.29, 57
Washington State, 2.24, 64
California, 1.86, 89
Stanford, 1.65, 108
Colorado, 1.08, 126


Defensive stats:
Team, DPD,DPD Rk (nationally)
Oregon State,1.68,17
Washington State, 2.02, 46
Utah,2.06, 47
California, 2.46, 94
Oregon, 2.49, 96
Washington, 2.6, 102
UCLA, 2.7, 105
USC, 2.8, 111
Stanford, 3.04, 124
Arizona State, 3.19, 126
Arizona, 3.41, 128
Colorado, 3.78, 130





Yes, I was looking at the fact we were #75 in offense and #88 in defense in yards per play.

However, your #89 nationally on offense and #94 on defense in points per drive is a better indicator of the same thing.

Point being, the narrative that we always have great defenses under Wilcox and all we need is an adequate offense is a myth. We have a lot of room to improve on both sides of the ball. Personally, I view that as a good thing, it gives us a lot more upside potential. However, it is easier for me to come up with a narrative on why we will be better on offense. I don't really trust what Wilcox says before the season, so I am eager to hear from those in the know if and why we will be significantly better on defense and if they think we can be as good as Oregon State on defense, for example.

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calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

calumnus said:

wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.


What did Wilcox say about the defense a year ago? Because we were not good last year, in fact as bad as our offense was, it was ranked higher than our defense. We need a huge improvement on both sides of the ball. Which only adds to your "who knows?"




As per this: https://www.bcftoys.com/2022-ppd/

We were 10th in the pac12 in offensive points per drive (89th overall)
We were 4th in the pac12 in defensive points per drive (94th overall)

The top two teams in offensive points per drive were both in the Pac12 (USC and Washington). There were 4 in the top 10, with a 5th sitting at number 12. That's nearly half the conference being the best offenses in the nation. Our offense did remarkably poorly (compared to our peers).

Defensively Oregon state was the best in the Pac12 at 17th nationally. The Pac12 had 2 others in the top 50, then us at 94 nationally, 4th in the conference. Given how bad defenses were in the Pac12 relative to the offenses, our defense did remarkably well (compared to our peers) last year.

Stats:

Offensive stats:
Team, OPD, OPD Rk Nationally
Washington, 3.76, 2
USC, 3.76, 1
Oregon, 3.59, 5
UCLA, 3.57, 6
Utah, 3.14, 12
Oregon State, 2.68, 31
Arizona, 2.65, 32
Arizona State, 2.29, 57
Washington State, 2.24, 64
California, 1.86, 89
Stanford, 1.65, 108
Colorado, 1.08, 126


Defensive stats:
Team, DPD,DPD Rk (nationally)
Oregon State,1.68,17
Washington State, 2.02, 46
Utah,2.06, 47
California, 2.46, 94
Oregon, 2.49, 96
Washington, 2.6, 102
UCLA, 2.7, 105
USC, 2.8, 111
Stanford, 3.04, 124
Arizona State, 3.19, 126
Arizona, 3.41, 128
Colorado, 3.78, 130





Yes, I was looking at the fact we were #75 in offense and #88 in defense in yards per play.

However, your #89 nationally on offense and #94 on defense in points per drive is a better indicator of the same thing.

Point being, the narrative that we always have great defenses under Wilcox and all we need is an adequate offense is a myth. We have a lot of room to improve on both sides of the ball. Personally, I view that as a good thing, it gives us a lot more upside potential. However, it is easier for me to come up with a narrative on why we will be better on offense. I don't really trust what Wilcox says before the season, so I am eager to hear from those in the know if they think we can be as good as Oregon State on defense, for example.


My point was that while we were 94 on points per drive nationally, we were 4th in the pac12.

You can look at it as the pac12 offenses being absolutely stacked, or the pac12 defenses all being absolute garbage, but either way, compared to our peers, we were in the top third of the conference on defense in a down year for our defense, and bottom 3rd on offense.

None of these stats live in a vacuum and opposition matters. Limiting it to similar opponents (within the conference) paints a very different picture than nationally. It makes our defense look a lot better than the national ranking indicates, and our offense look a lot worse, given how poor the defenses we went up against were.

Colorado was ranked 130th nationally on defensive points per drive. 130th. We scored 13 points on 12 drives + 1 OT posession. Effectively 1 point per drive...that's horrendous.

Washington and USC tied for most offensive points per drive in the nation and we held Washington them to their second lowest point total of the season (we gave up 4 more points than oregon state), on 2.55 points per drive, nearly 1.25 points per drive less than their season average. USC did about their average at 3.72 points per drive.

My point is...our offense was WAY worse than our defense with respect to our peers vs a more similar opposition profile.

That doesn't mean there isn't room to improve on defense. We were incredibly handicapped by injuries on that side of the ball, which forced us into a more prevent / bend but don't break defense than we likely would have preferred. And yes, injuries could happen again, but we have a lot more depth this year than we did last year so there is at least reason for hope for improvement.
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MrGPAC said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

calumnus said:

wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.


What did Wilcox say about the defense a year ago? Because we were not good last year, in fact as bad as our offense was, it was ranked higher than our defense. We need a huge improvement on both sides of the ball. Which only adds to your "who knows?"




As per this: https://www.bcftoys.com/2022-ppd/

We were 10th in the pac12 in offensive points per drive (89th overall)
We were 4th in the pac12 in defensive points per drive (94th overall)

The top two teams in offensive points per drive were both in the Pac12 (USC and Washington). There were 4 in the top 10, with a 5th sitting at number 12. That's nearly half the conference being the best offenses in the nation. Our offense did remarkably poorly (compared to our peers).

Defensively Oregon state was the best in the Pac12 at 17th nationally. The Pac12 had 2 others in the top 50, then us at 94 nationally, 4th in the conference. Given how bad defenses were in the Pac12 relative to the offenses, our defense did remarkably well (compared to our peers) last year.

Stats:

Offensive stats:
Team, OPD, OPD Rk Nationally
Washington, 3.76, 2
USC, 3.76, 1
Oregon, 3.59, 5
UCLA, 3.57, 6
Utah, 3.14, 12
Oregon State, 2.68, 31
Arizona, 2.65, 32
Arizona State, 2.29, 57
Washington State, 2.24, 64
California, 1.86, 89
Stanford, 1.65, 108
Colorado, 1.08, 126


Defensive stats:
Team, DPD,DPD Rk (nationally)
Oregon State,1.68,17
Washington State, 2.02, 46
Utah,2.06, 47
California, 2.46, 94
Oregon, 2.49, 96
Washington, 2.6, 102
UCLA, 2.7, 105
USC, 2.8, 111
Stanford, 3.04, 124
Arizona State, 3.19, 126
Arizona, 3.41, 128
Colorado, 3.78, 130





Yes, I was looking at the fact we were #75 in offense and #88 in defense in yards per play.

However, your #89 nationally on offense and #94 on defense in points per drive is a better indicator of the same thing.

Point being, the narrative that we always have great defenses under Wilcox and all we need is an adequate offense is a myth. We have a lot of room to improve on both sides of the ball. Personally, I view that as a good thing, it gives us a lot more upside potential. However, it is easier for me to come up with a narrative on why we will be better on offense. I don't really trust what Wilcox says before the season, so I am eager to hear from those in the know if they think we can be as good as Oregon State on defense, for example.


My point was that while we were 94 on points per drive nationally, we were 4th in the pac12.

You can look at it as the pac12 offenses being absolutely stacked, or the pac12 defenses all being absolute garbage, but either way, compared to our peers, we were in the top third of the conference on defense in a down year for our defense, and bottom 3rd on offense.

None of these stats live in a vacuum and opposition matters. Limiting it to similar opponents (within the conference) paints a very different picture than nationally. It makes our defense look a lot better than the national ranking indicates, and our offense look a lot worse, given how poor the defenses we went up against were.

Colorado was ranked 130th nationally on defensive points per drive. 130th. We scored 13 points on 12 drives + 1 OT posession. Effectively 1 point per drive...that's horrendous.

Washington and USC tied for most offensive points per drive in the nation and we held Washington them to their second lowest point total of the season (we gave up 4 more points than oregon state), on 2.55 points per drive, nearly 1.25 points per drive less than their season average. USC did about their average at 3.72 points per drive.

My point is...our offense was WAY worse than our defense with respect to our peers vs a more similar opposition profile.

That doesn't mean there isn't room to improve on defense. We were incredibly handicapped by injuries on that side of the ball, which forced us into a more prevent / bend but don't break defense than we likely would have preferred. And yes, injuries could happen again, but we have a lot more depth this year than we did last year so there is at least reason for hope for improvement.
Your points are completely valid...context matters. We play 9 games against the conference teams...national stats are near meaningless because 75% of our games are in conference.
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Big C said:

Blueblood said:

The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?

Half of those teams will probably finish the season lower ranked than that, or not ranked at all. I'd bet we beat at least one of these teams, maybe two (and probably lose to 1-2 teams that aren't on that list, of course, probably Auburn).

Which is why I'm predicting 6-6!

What our schedule looks like it will be in June (in terms of difficulty) rarely turns out that way.
You can't fool me. You're a follower of Evanduck, aren't you?
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Our backs are against the wall and it's June. Find that elusive 6th win and go the Bud Light Bowl in Buffalo on December 9. 2023. Lose and always wonder what could've been.
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I'm just hoping we dont have any soul crushing, play way below your ability losses, like the colorado game last year.

I'm still quite salty about that loss.
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Blueblood said:

The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
In 2022, the AP Final Poll had 15 teams that were unranked in the preseason polls. If that holds, 60% of the 2023 preseason top 25 won't be in the final poll.
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MrGPAC said:

calumnus said:

MrGPAC said:

calumnus said:

wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.


What did Wilcox say about the defense a year ago? Because we were not good last year, in fact as bad as our offense was, it was ranked higher than our defense. We need a huge improvement on both sides of the ball. Which only adds to your "who knows?"




As per this: https://www.bcftoys.com/2022-ppd/

We were 10th in the pac12 in offensive points per drive (89th overall)
We were 4th in the pac12 in defensive points per drive (94th overall)

The top two teams in offensive points per drive were both in the Pac12 (USC and Washington). There were 4 in the top 10, with a 5th sitting at number 12. That's nearly half the conference being the best offenses in the nation. Our offense did remarkably poorly (compared to our peers).

Defensively Oregon state was the best in the Pac12 at 17th nationally. The Pac12 had 2 others in the top 50, then us at 94 nationally, 4th in the conference. Given how bad defenses were in the Pac12 relative to the offenses, our defense did remarkably well (compared to our peers) last year.

Stats:

Offensive stats:
Team, OPD, OPD Rk Nationally
Washington, 3.76, 2
USC, 3.76, 1
Oregon, 3.59, 5
UCLA, 3.57, 6
Utah, 3.14, 12
Oregon State, 2.68, 31
Arizona, 2.65, 32
Arizona State, 2.29, 57
Washington State, 2.24, 64
California, 1.86, 89
Stanford, 1.65, 108
Colorado, 1.08, 126


Defensive stats:
Team, DPD,DPD Rk (nationally)
Oregon State,1.68,17
Washington State, 2.02, 46
Utah,2.06, 47
California, 2.46, 94
Oregon, 2.49, 96
Washington, 2.6, 102
UCLA, 2.7, 105
USC, 2.8, 111
Stanford, 3.04, 124
Arizona State, 3.19, 126
Arizona, 3.41, 128
Colorado, 3.78, 130





Yes, I was looking at the fact we were #75 in offense and #88 in defense in yards per play.

However, your #89 nationally on offense and #94 on defense in points per drive is a better indicator of the same thing.

Point being, the narrative that we always have great defenses under Wilcox and all we need is an adequate offense is a myth. We have a lot of room to improve on both sides of the ball. Personally, I view that as a good thing, it gives us a lot more upside potential. However, it is easier for me to come up with a narrative on why we will be better on offense. I don't really trust what Wilcox says before the season, so I am eager to hear from those in the know if they think we can be as good as Oregon State on defense, for example.


My point was that while we were 94 on points per drive nationally, we were 4th in the pac12.

You can look at it as the pac12 offenses being absolutely stacked, or the pac12 defenses all being absolute garbage, but either way, compared to our peers, we were in the top third of the conference on defense in a down year for our defense, and bottom 3rd on offense.

None of these stats live in a vacuum and opposition matters. Limiting it to similar opponents (within the conference) paints a very different picture than nationally. It makes our defense look a lot better than the national ranking indicates, and our offense look a lot worse, given how poor the defenses we went up against were.

Colorado was ranked 130th nationally on defensive points per drive. 130th. We scored 13 points on 12 drives + 1 OT posession. Effectively 1 point per drive...that's horrendous.

Washington and USC tied for most offensive points per drive in the nation and we held Washington them to their second lowest point total of the season (we gave up 4 more points than oregon state), on 2.55 points per drive, nearly 1.25 points per drive less than their season average. USC did about their average at 3.72 points per drive.

My point is...our offense was WAY worse than our defense with respect to our peers vs a more similar opposition profile.

That doesn't mean there isn't room to improve on defense. We were incredibly handicapped by injuries on that side of the ball, which forced us into a more prevent / bend but don't break defense than we likely would have preferred. And yes, injuries could happen again, but we have a lot more depth this year than we did last year so there is at least reason for hope for improvement.


First, I agree that our offense was objectively worse than our defense.

However, another way to look at the defensive rankings is:

#17 Oregon State

#46 Washington State
#47 Utah

#94 California
#96 Oregon
#102 Washington
#105 UCLA
#111 USC
#124 Stanford
#126 Arizona State
#128 Arizona
#130 Colorado

We were "#4 in the PAC-12" but we were closer to #12 Colorado (36 places) than we were to #3 Utah (47 places).

Oregon State, WSU and Utah had arguably good defenses. Being slightly better than any of the rest did not make us "good." Doesn't mean we can't be this year
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BearGreg said:

Blueblood said:

The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
In 2022, the AP Final Poll had 15 teams that were unranked in the preseason polls. If that holds, 60% of the 2023 preseason top 25 won't be in the final poll.
I won't argue with your observation. And yes, it is quit possible the same might happen this coming season too.

But, let's not discard reality altogether. I mean, even if the final AP Top 25 has 15 teams that were unranked in the ranking that I just posted, I think its safe to say that none of those 15 teams will be replaced by Cal.

I bet that those 15 teams which were ranked in the 2022 poll preseason but not in the final rankings were still
ranked fairly close to the final poll. I think the same will be said for those 6 Pac-12 teams that I identified. That is, these 6 aforementioned teams are still better than Cal. If not, any upset by the Bears will be rare. Even in such case, I think it would be rarer to expect Cal to run-the-table and beat all the other teams in its remaining schedule.
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It is going to be tough getting to six wins. I think we will be favored in only four games and need to pull two upsets to get there.

Go Bears!
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calbear80 said:

It is going to be tough getting to six wins. I think we will be favored in only four games and need to pull two upsets to get there.

Go Bears!


And under Wilcox we have tended to pair our good wins with bad losses. We need to be dramatically improved on both sides of the ball to get to 6 or 7 wins. Our best hope is that Sam Jackson is a superstar
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wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the
conference.

I totally agree with your conclusion: "Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the Conference"
At present I see an 8-win season and a 4-win season as equal probabilities.
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evanluck said:

Blueblood said:

The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
It's a daunting schedule this year for sure. But the games never completely turn out according to ranking. Under Wilcox most of the the losses are close. Just need a season where things bounce right more than they bounce wrong. This mostly happens because of the confidence level of the players. As fans we can help by our belief. The only thing we risk is disappointment.

Much better at this stage to indulge in the hype rather than looking at the somber side of the facts and preparing for the worst. We risk nothing in believing in the team at this stage. They are the ones doing all the work. But the random luck of the ball bouncing the right way on key plays is a product of the collective positive belief of people who focus on the team. Obviously players and coaches have the greatest influence but the effect of fans is not zero.

We always point to common threads associated with Cal's under performance over the years. The administration is the biggest target. But another common thread is the general attitude of the some of most engaged fans that Cal is somehow, at the level of its DNA, a losing brand. Only true because enough people have chosen to believe it to be true. Beliefs are thoughts we keep thinking. Change the thought to change the belief to change the experience!

Go Bears! Let's go Bowling!
Are you saying that, if only the fans had more positive belief in the team, the team would win more games?

That would only be true if each fan had so much more belief that they brought 100 of their friends to games and that all of them would shout themselves hoarse every time the opponent had the ball. Cal fans sit on their hands.

Or, now, if the fans poured millions more into NIL payments to get 5* players...if that's what we wanted our team to be.
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wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.
There are a lot of changes. The roster has been made over. There have been some losses that may hurt the team, but overall the roster is improved. Seemingly by a good measure. But the P12 as a league has seen the transfer portal put into good effect by more teams than perhaps any other conference. USC has turned over much of their previous roster over the past 2 recruiting cycles and will once again field a team that is very transfer heavy.

Oregon, ASU and UCLA scored very well also. Additionally Cal plays Auburn who really hit the portal hard and well if the rankings mean anything. Colorado of course was the major transfer participant. Cal does not play the Buffs though.

There are also coaching changes. Spavital and Bloesch simply have to make a positive difference. They will need to mold an offense around an OL that has not been strong and with inexperienced QBs. Scheme matters. I expect the offense to be better. How much and when will matter. The schedule is tough but they play 4 home games in the first 6 and one road game is against a G5 opponent that was hurt a lot by portal departures and coaching changes. Their OC is now the Cal OL coach. The first 6 games need to be 4-2 at a minimum and better yet 5-1. Possible. Only UW away looks out of reach to me. If they head into the 2nd half at 3-3 or worse the optimism will fade and another losing season would be likely.

The defense looks pretty good. I expect the scheme to be a bit different. An increased emphasis on TFLs and utilizing the athletes to make plays rather than the bend but don't break we have seen. The DBs will be key here. They simply have to be able to cover well enough for the new more aggresive scheme I expect to be effective. The defense will be looking to make plays over limiting chunk plays and hoping for errors by the other team. It will be tough as USC, UW, UO have proven terrific QBs and WRs. And the P12 is generally a very strong offensive conference But Cal has good DBs, so finding a pass rush will be very important.

But the roster is better. QB play and improvement along the OL will really matter. Injuries are always a factor. But Cal has better depth now than in any of the previous Wilcox seasons. But some players are rather irreplaceable. Like Jaydn Ott. He has the ability to really impact the offense. He is a home run threat with the ball and an excellent pass receiver. There are some nice backs behind him but nobody that is of similar impact. And the depth at OL looks suspect.

I think in many ways we know less about this team than any Wilcox team since his first season. It will be interesting to watch the team as they transition from the ball control, slower paced offense of past seasons to a faster paced spread style team. And can they move away from the risk averse defense that was predictable to a more aggressive style that looks to make plays.

There are some pieces on this team. But it is inexperienced at the most crucial position and the league is strong. Jackson has to be good. He will need to be a playmaker. As will Ott, Hunter and Anderson. If the defense plays as hoped they may suprise some. But the away schedule likely limits the upside. They can make a bowl. 7 wins is possible. More seems a big strecth to me. But they could go 4-8 and 5-7 if the inexperience at QB rears its head and there are injuries at OL again and to impact offensive players like Ott or Hunter.

This team is unknown IMO. But will be consistently be knocked for what we have seen in previous seasons. I believe this team will look different in style and scheme. Will it matter? Maybe. Hopefully. It needs to.
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6956bear said:

wifeisafurd said:

Nice to see the Pac is getting some respect in the nations polls. It still is rather early, but Utah, SC, Udub (a team Cal started the 4th quarter tied with in 2022), Oregon State are for real. Less convinced about the others, and I think UCLA, in particular, will have some growing pains with new players at key positions.

Utah and Udub seen invincible at home. Could Cal surprise SC or OSU at home, maybe. Good defense keeps you in the game. Physically this is the best defense Wilcox has had (citing Wilcox), and defense keeps you in games. Offense? Who knows? But if the offense finds it stride, Cal is capable of some upsets. Until we see Cal play with all the roster and coaching changes, it is really hard to project where Cal sits in the conference.
There are a lot of changes. The roster has been made over. There have been some losses that may hurt the team, but overall the roster is improved. Seemingly by a good measure. But the P12 as a league has seen the transfer portal put into good effect by more teams than perhaps any other conference. USC has turned over much of their previous roster over the past 2 recruiting cycles and will once again field a team that is very transfer heavy.

Oregon, ASU and UCLA scored very well also. Additionally Cal plays Auburn who really hit the portal hard and well if the rankings mean anything. Colorado of course was the major transfer participant. Cal does not play the Buffs though.

There are also coaching changes. Spavital and Bloesch simply have to make a positive difference. They will need to mold an offense around an OL that has not been strong and with inexperienced QBs. Scheme matters. I expect the offense to be better. How much and when will matter. The schedule is tough but they play 4 home games in the first 6 and one road game is against a G5 opponent that was hurt a lot by portal departures and coaching changes. Their OC is now the Cal OL coach. The first 6 games need to be 4-2 at a minimum and better yet 5-1. Possible. Only UW away looks out of reach to me. If they head into the 2nd half at 3-3 or worse the optimism will fade and another losing season would be likely.

The defense looks pretty good. I expect the scheme to be a bit different. An increased emphasis on TFLs and utilizing the athletes to make plays rather than the bend but don't break we have seen. The DBs will be key here. They simply have to be able to cover well enough for the new more aggresive scheme I expect to be effective. The defense will be looking to make plays over limiting chunk plays and hoping for errors by the other team. It will be tough as USC, UW, UO have proven terrific QBs and WRs. And the P12 is generally a very strong offensive conference But Cal has good DBs, so finding a pass rush will be very important.

But the roster is better. QB play and improvement along the OL will really matter. Injuries are always a factor. But Cal has better depth now than in any of the previous Wilcox seasons. But some players are rather irreplaceable. Like Jaydn Ott. He has the ability to really impact the offense. He is a home run threat with the ball and an excellent pass receiver. There are some nice backs behind him but nobody that is of similar impact. And the depth at OL looks suspect.

I think in many ways we know less about this team than any Wilcox team since his first season. It will be interesting to watch the team as they transition from the ball control, slower paced offense of past seasons to a faster paced spread style team. And can they move away from the risk averse defense that was predictable to a more aggressive style that looks to make plays.

There are some pieces on this team. But it is inexperienced at the most crucial position and the league is strong. Jackson has to be good. He will need to be a playmaker. As will Ott, Hunter and Anderson. If the defense plays as hoped they may suprise some. But the away schedule likely limits the upside. They can make a bowl. 7 wins is possible. More seems a big strecth to me. But they could go 4-8 and 5-7 if the inexperience at QB rears its head and there are injuries at OL again and to impact offensive players like Ott or Hunter.

This team is unknown IMO. But will be consistently be knocked for what we have seen in previous seasons. I believe this team will look different in style and scheme. Will it matter? Maybe. Hopefully. It needs to.


Great summary
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the problem with the pac12 is there are a lot of talented AND experienced at QB

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Blueblood said:

The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
These are the same teams that ended last year as top 20 teams. UCLA may have been 22 or something. PAC 12 is stacked - and that is going to impact Cal. Last year, we beat none of the top 20 teams we faced and lost to them on average by 14 points. For the 6 teams that were not top 20, we averaged about 2.5 points more than they did. So total swing of about 11 - 12 points ranked vs unranked.

Our offense only put up 22 points against ranked teams and 25 against unranked teams - we were universally bad. Defense was 21 points for unranked and 34 for ranked teams.

We lost to all of the ranked, and two of the unranked. I think to be competitive we need to add 7 on the offensive side and reduce by three on the defense. That is a big lift in year 1 for Spavital. But possible. Just one more explosive TD per game. But realistically, I would think 6-6 is the right answer today for prediction. I do think we will be better on offense and the same or better on defense.

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Oski87 said:

Blueblood said:

The latest AP Top 25 just came out.

The following Cal 2023 opponents were ranked therein:

#8 Washington
#10 Utah
#12 USC
#15 Oregon
#17 Oregon State
#21 ucla

Assuming these games are losses (and I believe they are), Cal's chances of getting a post-season bowl bid looks to be a very difficult task.

The above may mean the Bears' hope of achieving the needed six wins will have to come from winning all six remaining games on its schedule. That is, this group consists of North Texas, Auburn, Idaho, ASU, Wazzu, and the furds. I believe beating The Mean Green, the Vandals, and the furds seems doable, but doing the same
against Auburn, ASU, and Wazzu, even though all home games, is another matter.

What I'm implying is that make sure your TV is in good operational order and you have plenty of holiday snacks. I wonder if many Cal fans are over-weight?
These are the same teams that ended last year as top 20 teams. UCLA may have been 22 or something. PAC 12 is stacked - and that is going to impact Cal. Last year, we beat none of the top 20 teams we faced and lost to them on average by 14 points. For the 6 teams that were not top 20, we averaged about 2.5 points more than they did. So total swing of about 11 - 12 points ranked vs unranked.

Our offense only put up 22 points against ranked teams and 25 against unranked teams - we were universally bad. Defense was 21 points for unranked and 34 for ranked teams.

We lost to all of the ranked, and two of the unranked. I think to be competitive we need to add 7 on the offensive side and reduce by three on the defense. That is a big lift in year 1 for Spavital. But possible. Just one more explosive TD per game. But realistically, I would think 6-6 is the right answer today for prediction. I do think we will be better on offense and the same or better on defense.




I think that is true if we replayed last year's schedule against last year's teams. I think this year's schedule is tougher. If six opponents are Top 20, we need to be a consistent top 25-40 team to win 6 and probably need to be Top 25 to win 7. We cannot afford a "bad" loss (Auburn at home is a must win, for example).
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Cal's defense shows weaker statistically BECAUSE the offense was weak and thus the defense was on the field more than if the offense was controlling the ball.
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bearchamp said:

Cal's defense shows weaker statistically BECAUSE the offense was weak and thus the defense was on the field more than if the offense was controlling the ball.


Conversely, opposing teams played us more conservatively on offense, settling for FGs and playing the field position game with us, burning clock, knowing our offense generally couldn't drive the field and/or put up big points. A high scoring offense puts more pressure on the defense when playing other high scoring offenses. Was USC's defense really that much worse than ours, or did they have to defend opponents who were trying to keep up with USC's offense?

FWIW, last year we were last (#12) in the conference in pass defense, #123 nationally. One of the worst in the country.

So no matter what anyone says, Wilcox does not always put out great defenses and there is definitely ALOT of room for improvement on defense this year.

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Anarchistbear said:

Our backs are against the wall and it's June. Find that elusive 6th win and go the Bud Light Bowl in Buffalo on December 9. 2023. Lose and always wonder what could've been.

Cal...we'll play anyone, anywhere.

Cheez-It, Bud Light, it doesn't matter.
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First year there is no sunshine pumping. Everyone predicting a 6-6 record or worse. The Bear has quit. The Bear has died.
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calumnus said:

bearchamp said:

Cal's defense shows weaker statistically BECAUSE the offense was weak and thus the defense was on the field more than if the offense was controlling the ball.
FWIW, last year we were last (#12) in the conference in pass defense, #123 nationally. One of the worst in the country.

So no matter what anyone says, Wilcox does not always put out great defenses and there is definitely ALOT of room for improvement on defense this year.
Didn't help that our offense was leaving the defense out to dry in most of those games last year (we had the ball for less than 25 minutes against Washington and less than 24 minutes at Oregon State, and get this, against the bear runts our offense was on the field for 23 MINUTES 10 SECONDS). Even in Big Game we only had the ball for 26 minutes.
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