This part !!!! And the Big time wins he won

He was a pretty good QB for us and I am a Chase Garbers fan!

That said, there were plenty of times when he either didn't spot the most open receiver, or didn't get the ball to him as he should have. I think it's okay to say that. But you're right in that, examining our offensive sub-mediocrity, he wasn't the weakest link. Rooting for him to succeed on Sundays.

Cal Strong loved how he beat furd and SC. But he could no understand why he declared with another year of eligibility left. It seemed that he would have been a 5th rounder with another year under his belt.

Cal Strong wonder if he was having academic problems or another issue. From a football standpoint, it no made any sense for him to declare.

highwireact2 said:

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Cal Strong! said:

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Cal Strong loved how he beat furd and SC. But he could no understand why he declared with another year of eligibility left. It seemed that he would have been a 5th rounder with another year under his belt.

Cal Strong wonder if he was having academic problems or another issue. From a football standpoint, it no made any sense for him to declare.

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He probably was just ready to move on with his life. He was 22 and already had his BA and just took graduate business classes to stay eligible for the 2021 season.

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That no make any sense. Why would anyone want to "move on" from probable draft pick to undrafted free agent?

His poor decision has left him hanging on by a very thin thread. He would have a more secure position and more money if he was a draft pick -- which he surely would have been.

He didn't have to play for Musgrave. He could have transferred to a lot of schools for his final season.

calumnus said:

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Cal Strong! said:

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highwireact2 said:

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Cal Strong! said:

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Cal Strong loved how he beat furd and SC. But he could no understand why he declared with another year of eligibility left. It seemed that he would have been a 5th rounder with another year under his belt.

Cal Strong wonder if he was having academic problems or another issue. From a football standpoint, it no made any sense for him to declare.

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He probably was just ready to move on with his life. He was 22 and already had his BA and just took graduate business classes to stay eligible for the 2021 season.

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That no make any sense. Why would anyone want to "move on" from probable draft pick to undrafted free agent?

His poor decision has left him hanging on by a very thin thread. He would have a more secure position and more money if he was a draft pick -- which he surely would have been.

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He had already been at Cal 5 years and after redshirting in 2017 used 4 years of eligibility. Sure, he could have stayed a 6th year, but Musgrave, and yes maybe grad transfer but he'd also risk injury. He is getting his shot right now, can't really ask for more than that. He was going to need to perform at the NFL level to get even a backup role. CFL could be good too.

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Risking injury a valid concern if you are a first day draft pick. But this doesn't apply to Garbers.

I think at that point he was ready to move on

going4roses said:

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I think at that point he was ready to move on

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Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.

I think Chase knows exactly what he is doing. Smarter than the average bear, no pun intended Yogi. Watch out for him. And, I would love to have him on my team. I am by no means a QB guru, but always liked what I saw with Chase. Will never forget the drive down the field at furd a couple years ago to beat them. And, I won't forget the wink of the eye on a different day. Reminds me a bit of Snake, but I guess we will see what happens with that assessment.

I guess if you say so

Exactly

Yeah, Baby!!

Well damn he is doing better than I thought.

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going4roses said:

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I think at that point he was ready to move on

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Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.

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It was a good move, as he is playing in the NFL right now. What else could he have done last year? Where else would he have gone? He was at Cal for 5 years; now he plays for the Raiders. Good for him; it's a happy ending.

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It seems that he will only be playing for the Raiders for a few more weeks, right?

Cal Strong no follow the NFL. But it certainly seems like the Raiders do not have a great QB situation. Nevertheless, Garbers is the #4 guy in a league that never carries 4 guys at the QB position.

The guy who will likely beat him out may or may not be better than Chase. But he was drafted and Chase wasn't.

Getting drafted > not getting drafted.
Chase after 5 years - not drafted.
Chase after 6 years - 4th round pick?.

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Musgrave completely mis-used him the first 3 games of the season.

after that he figured Garbers was a threat to run and better used that aspect of his game.

But by then it was too late as we lost those early games that we would have won if Musgrave had understood what he had at QB

Even after he figured out Garbers, Musgrave's offense wasn't the right one for Garbers.

I can only imagine what Spav would have done with a senior Garbers to run his offense.

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Can't blame you but you forgot the 4 games the previous season when Musgrave did the same. And I think it was midway through his second season when Musgrave finally gave Garbers the green light and did more than 7 step drops in the face of an unblocked pass rush.

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going4roses said:

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I think at that point he was ready to move on

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Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.

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"Chase Garbers signed a 3 year, $2,575,000 contract with the Las Vegas Raiders, including a $15,000 signing bonus, $100,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $858,333. In 2023, Garbers will earn a base salary of $750,000, while carrying a cap hit of $750,000."

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I wonder if his brother will do as well.

calumnus said:

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going4roses said:

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I think at that point he was ready to move on

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Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.

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"Chase Garbers signed a 3 year, $2,575,000 contract with the Las Vegas Raiders, including a $15,000 signing bonus, $100,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $858,333. In 2023, Garbers will earn a base salary of $750,000, while carrying a cap hit of $750,000."

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Cal Strong have two strong questions and two strong observations.

Question 1 -- Isn't this old data? Chase was cut in late July, then signed back in early August.

Question 2 -- Let's say the data Calumnus posted is current, and let's assume (as the #4 QB) that Chase will be cut in the next few weeks. So the annual salary isn't part of this. It really is just the signing bonus and the guarantee ($115k). This certainly not bad. But some of that goes to his agent and his offseason QB training. So the real payment is somewhere around $90k before taxes but after expenses. Well, what would he have made in NIL last year? How is this a smart business move?

Observation 1 -- Chase is currently number #4 behind Aidan O'Connell, who was a 4th round pick. The raiders could have gotten a really good RB or LB with a 4th round pick. But clearly they weren't thinking Chase was their long term project.

Observation 2 -- Aidan O'Connell took Jack Plumber's job at Purdue. And he is about to take Chase Garbers' job with the Raiders.


What does this guy have against Cal QBs?!?!?!?!?!!?

Where how who ? Gotta be kidding

I war referring to Musgrave being hired by the Cleveland Browns as a senior offensive assistant.

chazzed said:

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I war referring to Musgrave being hired by the Cleveland Browns as a senior offensive assistant.

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Browns keep Browning.