Raiders vs 9ers. Chase has been playing in the 4th quarter and doing pretty good. Raiders dominating.
Go Bears!
Go Bears!
SonomanA1 said:
Raiders vs 9ers. Chase has been playing in the 4th quarter and doing pretty good. Raiders dominating.
Go Bears!
I agree. He won plenty of games that are important to the Cal faithful. I'm a big fan.calumnus said:SonomanA1 said:
Raiders vs 9ers. Chase has been playing in the 4th quarter and doing pretty good. Raiders dominating.
Go Bears!
A better QB than most here gave him credit for because he played for bad OCs and behind poor OLs.
chazzed said:I agree. He won plenty of games that are important to the Cal faithful. I'm a big fan.calumnus said:SonomanA1 said:
Raiders vs 9ers. Chase has been playing in the 4th quarter and doing pretty good. Raiders dominating.
Go Bears!
A better QB than most here gave him credit for because he played for bad OCs and behind poor OLs.
Cal Strong! said:
Cal Strong loved how he beat furd and SC. But he could no understand why he declared with another year of eligibility left. It seemed that he would have been a 5th rounder with another year under his belt.
Cal Strong wonder if he was having academic problems or another issue. From a football standpoint, it no made any sense for him to declare.
That no make any sense. Why would anyone want to "move on" from probable draft pick to undrafted free agent?highwireact2 said:Cal Strong! said:
Cal Strong loved how he beat furd and SC. But he could no understand why he declared with another year of eligibility left. It seemed that he would have been a 5th rounder with another year under his belt.
Cal Strong wonder if he was having academic problems or another issue. From a football standpoint, it no made any sense for him to declare.
He probably was just ready to move on with his life. He was 22 and already had his BA and just took graduate business classes to stay eligible for the 2021 season.
Cal Strong! said:That no make any sense. Why would anyone want to "move on" from probable draft pick to undrafted free agent?highwireact2 said:Cal Strong! said:
Cal Strong loved how he beat furd and SC. But he could no understand why he declared with another year of eligibility left. It seemed that he would have been a 5th rounder with another year under his belt.
Cal Strong wonder if he was having academic problems or another issue. From a football standpoint, it no made any sense for him to declare.
He probably was just ready to move on with his life. He was 22 and already had his BA and just took graduate business classes to stay eligible for the 2021 season.
His poor decision has left him hanging on by a very thin thread. He would have a more secure position and more money if he was a draft pick -- which he surely would have been.
Risking injury a valid concern if you are a first day draft pick. But this doesn't apply to Garbers.calumnus said:Cal Strong! said:That no make any sense. Why would anyone want to "move on" from probable draft pick to undrafted free agent?highwireact2 said:Cal Strong! said:
Cal Strong loved how he beat furd and SC. But he could no understand why he declared with another year of eligibility left. It seemed that he would have been a 5th rounder with another year under his belt.
Cal Strong wonder if he was having academic problems or another issue. From a football standpoint, it no made any sense for him to declare.
He probably was just ready to move on with his life. He was 22 and already had his BA and just took graduate business classes to stay eligible for the 2021 season.
His poor decision has left him hanging on by a very thin thread. He would have a more secure position and more money if he was a draft pick -- which he surely would have been.
He had already been at Cal 5 years and after redshirting in 2017 used 4 years of eligibility. Sure, he could have stayed a 6th year, but Musgrave, and yes maybe grad transfer but he'd also risk injury. He is getting his shot right now, can't really ask for more than that. He was going to need to perform at the NFL level to get even a backup role. CFL could be good too.
Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.going4roses said:
I think at that point he was ready to move on
Cal Strong! said:Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.going4roses said:
I think at that point he was ready to move on
Cal Strong! said:Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.going4roses said:
I think at that point he was ready to move on
It seems that he will only be playing for the Raiders for a few more weeks, right?Big C said:Cal Strong! said:Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.going4roses said:
I think at that point he was ready to move on
It was a good move, as he is playing in the NFL right now. What else could he have done last year? Where else would he have gone? He was at Cal for 5 years; now he plays for the Raiders. Good for him; it's a happy ending.
HoopDreams said:
Musgrave completely mis-used him the first 3 games of the season.
after that he figured Garbers was a threat to run and better used that aspect of his game.
But by then it was too late as we lost those early games that we would have won if Musgrave had understood what he had at QB
Even after he figured out Garbers, Musgrave's offense wasn't the right one for Garbers.
I can only imagine what Spav would have done with a senior Garbers to run his offense.
I wonder if his brother will do as well.calumnus said:Cal Strong! said:Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.going4roses said:
I think at that point he was ready to move on
"Chase Garbers signed a 3 year, $2,575,000 contract with the Las Vegas Raiders, including a $15,000 signing bonus, $100,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $858,333. In 2023, Garbers will earn a base salary of $750,000, while carrying a cap hit of $750,000."
Cal Strong have two strong questions and two strong observations.calumnus said:Cal Strong! said:Obviously. But from a professional standpoint, it was a really bad move.going4roses said:
I think at that point he was ready to move on
"Chase Garbers signed a 3 year, $2,575,000 contract with the Las Vegas Raiders, including a $15,000 signing bonus, $100,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $858,333. In 2023, Garbers will earn a base salary of $750,000, while carrying a cap hit of $750,000."
It's appalling that an offensive coordinator / QB coach at this level took so long to adjust. It's even more appalling that the man got another job in the league after being fired from Cal.calumnus said:HoopDreams said:
Musgrave completely mis-used him the first 3 games of the season.
after that he figured Garbers was a threat to run and better used that aspect of his game.
But by then it was too late as we lost those early games that we would have won if Musgrave had understood what he had at QB
Even after he figured out Garbers, Musgrave's offense wasn't the right one for Garbers.
I can only imagine what Spav would have done with a senior Garbers to run his offense.
Can't blame you but you forgot the 4 games the previous season when Musgrave did the same. And I think it was midway through his second season when Musgrave finally gave Garbers the green light and did more than 7 step drops in the face of an unblocked pass rush.
chazzed said:
I war referring to Musgrave being hired by the Cleveland Browns as a senior offensive assistant.