Any word on how he's doing?

Body injury.

Hold him out until next week.

Bumping this midweek when the injury reports starts coming out. And I'm totally fine being overly cautious with him, and not playing him against Idaho. Ifanse and Stredick should be able to hold the fort.

Wilcox says he's day-to-day but likely plays. Listed as first string on the depth chart out this afternoon. Ifanse and Stredick co-second string. I still don't know why Ifanse went so deep into the doghouse after his fumble that probably wasn't.

Don't sleep on the Jet. 2nd in California in rushing last year. Averaging 9 yds per carry at Cal.

Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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Wilcox says he's day-to-day but likely plays. Listed as first string on the depth chart out this afternoon. Ifanse and Stredick co-second string. I still don't know why Ifanse went so deep into the doghouse after his fumble that probably wasn't.

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Moraga said that Ifanse is dinged up.

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Wilcox says he's day-to-day but likely plays. Listed as first string on the depth chart out this afternoon. Ifanse and Stredick co-second string. I still don't know why Ifanse went so deep into the doghouse after his fumble that probably wasn't.

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Moraga said that Ifanse is dinged up.

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Carrying or destroying 4 north texas defenders on a single play will do that.

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Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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didn't hurdling defenders used to be a penalty? If so, they need to bring it back.

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Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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Exactly. It's hard not to think about Best's leap against Oregon State in 2009.

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Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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didn't hurdling defenders used to be a penalty? If so, they need to bring it back.

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I completely agree. And for the ball carrier, it's never worth it. 95% of the time the player gains maybe a yard by hurdling. That is not worth the extreme risk associated with the move.

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Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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didn't hurdling defenders used to be a penalty? If so, they need to bring it back.

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I remember Russell White got a hurdling penalty called on him but I don't remember who we were playing

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Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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didn't hurdling defenders used to be a penalty? If so, they need to bring it back.

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I remember Russell White got a hurdling penalty called on him but I don't remember who we were playing

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I really hope that Ott is ok.

It would appear that he experienced a concussion. It will be interesting to see if he can pass his impact protocol test.

Even then, I'd leave the young man out of the line up vs Idaho.

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Wilcox says he's day-to-day but likely plays. Listed as first string on the depth chart out this afternoon. Ifanse and Stredick co-second string. I still don't know why Ifanse went so deep into the doghouse after his fumble that probably wasn't.

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Moraga said that Ifanse is dinged up.

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Oh, sorry to hear that.

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Wilcox says he's day-to-day but likely plays. Listed as first string on the depth chart out this afternoon. Ifanse and Stredick co-second string. I still don't know why Ifanse went so deep into the doghouse after his fumble that probably wasn't.

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Moraga said that Ifanse is dinged up.

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Oh, sorry to hear that.

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Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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didn't hurdling defenders used to be a penalty? If so, they need to bring it back.

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I remember Russell White got a hurdling penalty called on him but I don't remember who we were playing

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Okay, true story: I was on the sidelines at the back of the south end zone when that happened, RIGHT NEAR whoever took that replay video (evidently), so Russell White was running right towards me. It was unbelievable. Still, don't try it again, Jaydn.

Only the top four running backs this year are out, so we good.

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Only the top four running backs this year are out, so we good.

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Which means we may get to see more of the Jet in action, and given his size and speed may feature a lot more outside runs which is arguably better for us anyway.

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Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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Exactly. It's hard not to think about Best's leap against Oregon State in 2009.

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Agree.

Can't believe I not only saw both Best and Ott hit the ground in person, but that, despite being in so many different places in the stadium over the years, ended up in almost the exact same place for both events. Unbelievable. I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't sit in the soutwest part of the stadium ever again. Hey wait, I was IN THE SAME PLACE when Best dislocated his shoulder against Michigan State too! Oh crap! Sorry folks. I'll avoid Sections II & J from now on. Promise! Lesson learned.

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Absolutely be cautious with Jaydn Ott, but if he and the medical team believe he isn't taking a significant further risk by playing, give him the ball! Speaking of risks, he probably shouldn't try hurdling the defenders anymore.

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didn't hurdling defenders used to be a penalty? If so, they need to bring it back.

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Or, at least, make mandatory regular viewing the ill fated, near catastrophic attempt made by Jahvid Best.

I believe that it used to be a penalty back in the days of Russell White, but is no longer deemed a penalty in College, or the NFL for that matter. - - - In 2012, a no-hurdling rule went into existence for high school. 15 yard penalty.

I was at the game but didn't get to see this happen (as an aside, sitting anywhere lower than 20 rows, you seem to miss a lot - what do people think is the best row to sit on for views?).

I really don't like hurdling - especially after the Best injury. Horrific and I never want to see a player have the involuntary reaction he did.

It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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He was walking around after the game last week so obviously not in great shape but doing alright, on Saturday we probably have him out in space as a speedback and work the other RBs inside.

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It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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He was walking around after the game last week so obviously not in great shape but doing alright, on Saturday we probably have him out in space as a speedback and work the other RBs inside.

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Which should have been the plan against Auburn.

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It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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He was walking around after the game last week so obviously not in great shape but doing alright, on Saturday we probably have him out in space as a speedback and work the other RBs inside.

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Which should have been the plan against Auburn.

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Did you see how many screen and swing passes we threw at him?

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I was at the game but didn't get to see this happen (as an aside, sitting anywhere lower than 20 rows, you seem to miss a lot - what do people think is the best row to sit on for views?).

I really don't like hurdling - especially after the Best injury. Horrific and I never want to see a player have the involuntary reaction he did.

It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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I hate being in the bottom half of the stadium, and my happy place is the top third. I actually chose the last row for this game and loved it - we saw everything. There's a reason a lot of coordinators like to be up in the press box.

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It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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He was walking around after the game last week so obviously not in great shape but doing alright, on Saturday we probably have him out in space as a speedback and work the other RBs inside.

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Which should have been the plan against Auburn.

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Did you see how many screen and swing passes we threw at him?

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All telegraphed. How many tines did we go outside on the pitch? How many runs were faked inside with him then bouncing outside?

With a big fast defense like Auburn how about fake Ott left with Jackson keeping and going right? Or run a reverse? Get the defense moving laterally in the wrong direction.

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It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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He was walking around after the game last week so obviously not in great shape but doing alright, on Saturday we probably have him out in space as a speedback and work the other RBs inside.

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Which should have been the plan against Auburn.

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Did you see how many screen and swing passes we threw at him?

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All telegraphed. How many tines did we go outside on the pitch? How many runs were faked inside with him then bouncing outside?

With a big fast defense like Auburn how about fake Ott left with Jackson keeping and going right? Or run a reverse? Get the defense moving laterally in the wrong direction.

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Actually the biggest problem was that nobody blocked Asante. Repeated run blitzes and nobody ever accounted for him.
Also Jackson unable to make the right quick decisions at times. The last interception, which I previously thought was a desperation fourth down heave under pressure, was actually just a poor decision. He was under pressure but didn't have to throw it in to double coverage in the end zone when he had Hunter open underneath right at the first down line at the five. Oh well. He needs experience, and I hope he gets a lot of it in a win this Saturday.

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It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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He was walking around after the game last week so obviously not in great shape but doing alright, on Saturday we probably have him out in space as a speedback and work the other RBs inside.

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Which should have been the plan against Auburn.

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Did you see how many screen and swing passes we threw at him?

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All telegraphed. How many tines did we go outside on the pitch? How many runs were faked inside with him then bouncing outside?

With a big fast defense like Auburn how about fake Ott left with Jackson keeping and going right? Or run a reverse? Get the defense moving laterally in the wrong direction.

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First, you have to give them a reason to go in the initial direction. As long as the guys on the left can say, "Other side? That's ok, my guys got that covered. I got this guy.", then the fake pitch/reverse will leave them snickerin'.

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It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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He was walking around after the game last week so obviously not in great shape but doing alright, on Saturday we probably have him out in space as a speedback and work the other RBs inside.

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Which should have been the plan against Auburn.

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Did you see how many screen and swing passes we threw at him?

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All telegraphed. How many tines did we go outside on the pitch? How many runs were faked inside with him then bouncing outside?

With a big fast defense like Auburn how about fake Ott left with Jackson keeping and going right? Or run a reverse? Get the defense moving laterally in the wrong direction.

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Actually the biggest problem was that nobody blocked Asante. Repeated run blitzes and nobody ever accounted for him.
Also Jackson unable to make the right quick decisions at times. The last interception, which I previously thought was a desperation fourth down heave under pressure, was actually just a poor decision. He was under pressure but didn't have to throw it in to double coverage in the end zone when he had Hunter open underneath right at the first down line at the five. Oh well. He needs experience, and I hope he gets a lot of it in a win this Saturday.

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Nobody could block Asante because the talent gap is too high.

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It would be a downright travesty if Ott got another concussion while in college let alone the very next week. If he did in face have a concussion, I hope we don't play him this week even if he is feeling 100% and the doctor's clear him. Really bad optics too.

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He was walking around after the game last week so obviously not in great shape but doing alright, on Saturday we probably have him out in space as a speedback and work the other RBs inside.

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Which should have been the plan against Auburn.

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Did you see how many screen and swing passes we threw at him?

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All telegraphed. How many tines did we go outside on the pitch? How many runs were faked inside with him then bouncing outside?

With a big fast defense like Auburn how about fake Ott left with Jackson keeping and going right? Or run a reverse? Get the defense moving laterally in the wrong direction.

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They did run a reverse. They couldn't execute it and lost yardage. All Ott and Jackson tried to do was run laterally for the most part and got caught most times.

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Actually the biggest problem was that nobody blocked Asante. Repeated run blitzes and nobody ever accounted for him.

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Bingo!
Asante looked like an ALL PRO out there because no one laid a hand on him.
Multiple times.