Beau Baldwin: His last year at Cal, he looked "smarter" when Saffel and Garbers came back from injuries. Funny how that works. Dude probably knows more than you think.

Tedford: He did a lot of great things at Cal, but that time is past. The book is closed, but the legend is written in it.

Spavital: This book is wide open. Can it be that Dykes got tired of Tony Franklin and hired Spav to carry out his own bidding? Was the fact that Spav was unsuccessful as a HC at Texas St significant? Can a smart OC all of a sudden get dumb? Did he mess up by hand-picking SJV as his anointed one? Why didn't he go deep against Auburn and stretch the field vertically like he did at Cal in 2016? Personnel issues? Screw up? What is a "Spav Offense all about, anyway?

Only the answers to the Spav questions are still relevant, although it's all fun! I'd like to hear from killa22 and berk18.? !

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Here is a thought… how about we just hire Coach Tedford again ?

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Tedford is an exceptional X's and O's guy and an excellent teacher of technique. There is a reason NFL teams loved drafting Tedford coached players.

Tedford is awful at motivating athletes. When he came in to Cal he didn't have to motivate anyone. The entire team had a chip on their shoulder and were pissed off from sucking for so long they were willing to do whatever Tedford said...and when it worked they were all eager to listen for more.

Seriously...go back and look at the USC pregame hype video from 2003 we played before every game with them during our however many year losing streak. Tedford came in to a bunch of hyped up kids talking in an unemotional voice about how they were disrespecting our team, about how they stabbed our logo....he was trying to hype up the team but it was falling on deaf ears. The team hyped themselves up...and let Tedfords coaching do the rest.

When we got past that first group of players that were willing to do whatever he said because they were tired of sucking, and started bringing in athletes that felt they were too good to need the coaching he was providing, things started going down hill quickly.

This is a large part of why he's so successful at Fresno State. That entire program has a chip on their shoulders. Tedford doesn't have to motivate those players...he just has to coach them up and put them in a position to succeed...which he is excellent at.

As much as I would love to see him come back, he's in the perfect position for himself...at his alma mater no less.

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I'm not disagreeing with you, but it is an odd paradox that Akili Smith and Joey Harrington were both coached by Tedford at Oregon, were chosen in the top 3 of their respective NFL drafts, and turned out to be major disappointments as pro QBs. You could argue that Boller was also in that underachiever category as a pro, but really, the expectations were inflated as he was drafted way too high.

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Then in 11 years at Cal, Tedford never recruited and developed a single high school QB that was ever drafted in any round or ever even made an NFL roster as a free agent on the scout team.

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Cal was very interested in Colin Kaepernick out of high school but then got a commitment from Kevin Riley and dropped him. We know how Kaepernick tore them a new one in the game up at Nevada but there would have been no guarantee he would have played as well here. The offense up there was perfect for him.

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Shutout at home tonight by Fresno State, 8 turnovers, no QB.

Bury this ******* in 2 weeks.

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#ArizonaState is a disgrace and their costumes suck! pic.twitter.com/T9I93nLZ1X

— Message Board Geniuses (@BoardGeniuses) September 18, 2023

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StillNoStanfurdium said:

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calumnus said:

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southseasbear said:

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calumnus said:

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HearstMining said:

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MrGPAC said:

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Wang24 said:

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Here is a thought… how about we just hire Coach Tedford again ?

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Tedford is an exceptional X's and O's guy and an excellent teacher of technique. There is a reason NFL teams loved drafting Tedford coached players.

Tedford is awful at motivating athletes. When he came in to Cal he didn't have to motivate anyone. The entire team had a chip on their shoulder and were pissed off from sucking for so long they were willing to do whatever Tedford said...and when it worked they were all eager to listen for more.

Seriously...go back and look at the USC pregame hype video from 2003 we played before every game with them during our however many year losing streak. Tedford came in to a bunch of hyped up kids talking in an unemotional voice about how they were disrespecting our team, about how they stabbed our logo....he was trying to hype up the team but it was falling on deaf ears. The team hyped themselves up...and let Tedfords coaching do the rest.

When we got past that first group of players that were willing to do whatever he said because they were tired of sucking, and started bringing in athletes that felt they were too good to need the coaching he was providing, things started going down hill quickly.

This is a large part of why he's so successful at Fresno State. That entire program has a chip on their shoulders. Tedford doesn't have to motivate those players...he just has to coach them up and put them in a position to succeed...which he is excellent at.

As much as I would love to see him come back, he's in the perfect position for himself...at his alma mater no less.

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I'm not disagreeing with you, but it is an odd paradox that Akili Smith and Joey Harrington were both coached by Tedford at Oregon, were chosen in the top 3 of their respective NFL drafts, and turned out to be major disappointments as pro QBs. You could argue that Boller was also in that underachiever category as a pro, but really, the expectations were inflated as he was drafted way too high.

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Then in 11 years at Cal, Tedford never recruited and developed a single high school QB that was ever drafted in any round or ever even made an NFL roster as a free agent on the scout team.

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He did recruit, though never had a chance to develop, Jared Goff.

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He brought in Elite 11's nearly every year, none made the NFL.

If Tedford stays highly doubt Goff starts in 2013, probably redshirts and ends up behind Bridgford, Kinder, and Kline. My guess would be Kline wins and is our Qb in 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016. Once a starter Tedford stays committed and this board loved that guy. Maybe Goff gets a shot as a RS senior in 2017? More likely he is the guy who transfers and tries to find a place elsewhere. There's a reason Goff stays in touch with Franklin and Dykes: they committed to him in 2013 and stuck with him. Without them it is almost certain he does not go #1 in the 2016 draft. They made him a lot of money.

I don't follow Fresno, has Tedford been getting QBs into the NFL since?

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Most recently Jake Haener got drafted in the 4th round from Fresno (as a grad transfer from Washington) and is now with the Saints (and suspended for testing positive for PEDs).

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So Tedford "the QB guru" had no QBs drafted since Rodgers until this year (18 years) , and still has not developed one of his own high school recruits into an NFL QB.

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Tedford was at Washington when Haener committed to the Huskies.

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calumnus said:

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calumnus said:

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calumnus said:

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HearstMining said:

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MrGPAC said:

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Wang24 said:

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Here is a thought… how about we just hire Coach Tedford again ?

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Tedford is an exceptional X's and O's guy and an excellent teacher of technique. There is a reason NFL teams loved drafting Tedford coached players.

Tedford is awful at motivating athletes. When he came in to Cal he didn't have to motivate anyone. The entire team had a chip on their shoulder and were pissed off from sucking for so long they were willing to do whatever Tedford said...and when it worked they were all eager to listen for more.

Seriously...go back and look at the USC pregame hype video from 2003 we played before every game with them during our however many year losing streak. Tedford came in to a bunch of hyped up kids talking in an unemotional voice about how they were disrespecting our team, about how they stabbed our logo....he was trying to hype up the team but it was falling on deaf ears. The team hyped themselves up...and let Tedfords coaching do the rest.

When we got past that first group of players that were willing to do whatever he said because they were tired of sucking, and started bringing in athletes that felt they were too good to need the coaching he was providing, things started going down hill quickly.

This is a large part of why he's so successful at Fresno State. That entire program has a chip on their shoulders. Tedford doesn't have to motivate those players...he just has to coach them up and put them in a position to succeed...which he is excellent at.

As much as I would love to see him come back, he's in the perfect position for himself...at his alma mater no less.

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I'm not disagreeing with you, but it is an odd paradox that Akili Smith and Joey Harrington were both coached by Tedford at Oregon, were chosen in the top 3 of their respective NFL drafts, and turned out to be major disappointments as pro QBs. You could argue that Boller was also in that underachiever category as a pro, but really, the expectations were inflated as he was drafted way too high.

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Then in 11 years at Cal, Tedford never recruited and developed a single high school QB that was ever drafted in any round or ever even made an NFL roster as a free agent on the scout team.

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He did recruit, though never had a chance to develop, Jared Goff.

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He brought in Elite 11's nearly every year, none made the NFL.

If Tedford stays highly doubt Goff starts in 2013, probably redshirts and ends up behind Bridgford, Kinder, and Kline. My guess would be Kline wins and is our Qb in 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016. Once a starter Tedford stays committed and this board loved that guy. Maybe Goff gets a shot as a RS senior in 2017? More likely he is the guy who transfers and tries to find a place elsewhere. There's a reason Goff stays in touch with Franklin and Dykes: they committed to him in 2013 and stuck with him. Without them it is almost certain he does not go #1 in the 2016 draft. They made him a lot of money.

I don't follow Fresno, has Tedford been getting QBs into the NFL since?

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Most recently Jake Haener got drafted in the 4th round from Fresno (as a grad transfer from Washington) and is now with the Saints (and suspended for testing positive for PEDs).

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So Tedford "the QB guru" had no QBs drafted since Rodgers until this year (18 years) , and still has not developed one of his own high school recruits into an NFL QB.

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Tedford was at Washington when Haener committed to the Huskies.

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Tedford was an "offensive consultant" to the Huskies in 2016 who was not allowed to recruit. In November 2016 he became Fresno's head coach. In February of 2017 Haener signed with the Huskies.

The fact there may have been some connection is interesting, but Haener is not a "Tedford HS recruit that he developed into an NFL quarterback."

In fact, I heard a TV announcer say that when Haener transferred to Fresno St., it was originally to play for Kalen Deboer. He kept his commitment when Tedford was named to replace Deboer.

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In fact, I heard a TV announcer say that when Haener transferred to Fresno St., it was originally to play for Kalen Deboer. He kept his commitment when Tedford was named to replace Deboer.

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If a TV announcer said that, then he didn't have the facts quite right.

When Haener transferred from UW to Fresno St. for the 2019 season, Tedford was the head coach, it was Tedford's third year at Fresno St. DeBoer was the OC/QB coach at Fresno St. in Tedford's first two years there, 2017-18, but he left to go to Indiana as OC/QB coach for the 2019 season. You can't say Haener went to Fresno St. to play for DeBoer, since Tedford was HC, had been for two years, and DeBoer had just left his OC/QB coach job to go to Indiana. Haener then had to sit out 2019, since that was in the dark ages when players had to sit out a year even for their first transfer.

Tedford resigned after the 2019 season, DeBoer got hired as HC, and Haener was the starting Fresno St. QB for the two seasons DeBoer was HC at Fresno St., the (glorified exhibition) 2020 season, and the (real) 2021 season, not having (yet) been able to play when Tedford was HC. When DeBoer left for UW at the end of November 2021, a day later, Haener entered the portal, with indications he was going back to UW to follow DeBoer. When Tedford was named to replace DeBoer, however, Haener announced the same day that he would stay at Fresno St., where he spent a third season as starter in 2022, his fourth year at Fresno St. overall, two Tedford years sandwiched around two DeBoer years.

I'll always be thankful to Haener (and Chris Peterson) for the 2018 Cal victory over UW. Browning had been somewhat ineffective, so Peterson yanked him after a three-and-out on UW's second drive of the second half to "shake things up." Haener's first drive ended in the Weaver pick six to put Cal up 12-7. His second drive included his only completed pass for 11 yards, but had just the one first down and ended with an incomplete knocked down by Kunaszyk. So Browning went back in. On the second drive back in when UW returned a punt to the Cal 22, after losing 10 yards on a TFL on a run, Browning got a 23 yard pass to the 9, but after a run, incomplete, and incomplete, Peterson decided to kick the FG on 4th and goal from the 9. Cal ran the clock out (mostly Garbers and Laird), and won the game. Peterson's 2018 production of "The Two Jakes" was even less successful than the 1990 film.

Without the Weaver pick six thrown by Haener, Cal likely never wins the game, so I am grateful. Yes, Jake Haener, even if you never play again after the PED suspension, we'll always have 2018.

BREAKING: Kenny Dillingham is calling offensive plays at practice for the first time today instead of Beau Baldwin.

— Chris Karpman (@ChrisKarpman) September 19, 2023

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C'mon, guys.

Dillingham was an OC for five years before this season. He has a lot of experience calling offensive plays.

If Wilcox, a career defensive coach, started calling offensive plays, everyone here would be apoplectic.

Once again, the #1 offensive issue to be fixed is recruiting, and whatever is #2 isn't close.

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So you are saying the reason we have had bad offenses under Wilcox is he just cannot recruit? so we just need to wait a few more years until we can afford to bring in a new HC and staff, then give them a few years to develop the recruits……

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BREAKING: Kenny Dillingham is calling offensive plays at practice for the first time today instead of Beau Baldwin.

— Chris Karpman (@ChrisKarpman) September 19, 2023

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Wow, after 3 games, while Wilcox hangs on to his struggling assistants for 2-3 years. Guess that's what actually trying to succeed looks like

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There is also the very real fact that Arizona State will be starting their 4th string quarterback. I dont even know if Cal has a 4th string qb.

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BREAKING: Kenny Dillingham is calling offensive plays at practice for the first time today instead of Beau Baldwin.

— Chris Karpman (@ChrisKarpman) September 19, 2023

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Wow, after 3 games, while Wilcox hangs on to his struggling assistants for 2-3 years. Guess that's what actually trying to succeed looks like

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There is also the very real fact that Arizona State will be starting their 4th string quarterback. I dont even know if Cal has a 4th string qb.

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It'd be between 6'6" walk-on transfer R-So Tyler Jensen from Louisville or walk-on Fr's Belay Brummel or Brady Weingart.

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calumnus said:

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calumnus said:

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calumnus said:

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HearstMining said:

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MrGPAC said:

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Wang24 said:

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Here is a thought… how about we just hire Coach Tedford again ?

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Tedford is an exceptional X's and O's guy and an excellent teacher of technique. There is a reason NFL teams loved drafting Tedford coached players.

Tedford is awful at motivating athletes. When he came in to Cal he didn't have to motivate anyone. The entire team had a chip on their shoulder and were pissed off from sucking for so long they were willing to do whatever Tedford said...and when it worked they were all eager to listen for more.

Seriously...go back and look at the USC pregame hype video from 2003 we played before every game with them during our however many year losing streak. Tedford came in to a bunch of hyped up kids talking in an unemotional voice about how they were disrespecting our team, about how they stabbed our logo....he was trying to hype up the team but it was falling on deaf ears. The team hyped themselves up...and let Tedfords coaching do the rest.

When we got past that first group of players that were willing to do whatever he said because they were tired of sucking, and started bringing in athletes that felt they were too good to need the coaching he was providing, things started going down hill quickly.

This is a large part of why he's so successful at Fresno State. That entire program has a chip on their shoulders. Tedford doesn't have to motivate those players...he just has to coach them up and put them in a position to succeed...which he is excellent at.

As much as I would love to see him come back, he's in the perfect position for himself...at his alma mater no less.

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I'm not disagreeing with you, but it is an odd paradox that Akili Smith and Joey Harrington were both coached by Tedford at Oregon, were chosen in the top 3 of their respective NFL drafts, and turned out to be major disappointments as pro QBs. You could argue that Boller was also in that underachiever category as a pro, but really, the expectations were inflated as he was drafted way too high.

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Then in 11 years at Cal, Tedford never recruited and developed a single high school QB that was ever drafted in any round or ever even made an NFL roster as a free agent on the scout team.

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He did recruit, though never had a chance to develop, Jared Goff.

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He brought in Elite 11's nearly every year, none made the NFL.

If Tedford stays highly doubt Goff starts in 2013, probably redshirts and ends up behind Bridgford, Kinder, and Kline. My guess would be Kline wins and is our Qb in 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016. Once a starter Tedford stays committed and this board loved that guy. Maybe Goff gets a shot as a RS senior in 2017? More likely he is the guy who transfers and tries to find a place elsewhere. There's a reason Goff stays in touch with Franklin and Dykes: they committed to him in 2013 and stuck with him. Without them it is almost certain he does not go #1 in the 2016 draft. They made him a lot of money.

I don't follow Fresno, has Tedford been getting QBs into the NFL since?

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Most recently Jake Haener got drafted in the 4th round from Fresno (as a grad transfer from Washington) and is now with the Saints (and suspended for testing positive for PEDs).

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So Tedford "the QB guru" had no QBs drafted since Rodgers until this year (18 years) , and still has not developed one of his own high school recruits into an NFL QB.

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Tedford was at Washington when Haener committed to the Huskies.

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Tedford was an "offensive consultant" to the Huskies in 2016 who was not allowed to recruit. In November 2016 he became Fresno's head coach. In February of 2017 Haener signed with the Huskies.

The fact there may have been some connection is interesting, but Haener is not a "Tedford HS recruit that he developed into an NFL quarterback."

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This all true. But Cal Strong no have any idea why the question of continuity from recruitment-graduation relevant.

It also seem close to certain that when Chris Petersen was giving Haener a tour of the UW facility, he probably also introduced him to that guy who coached seven guys into the NFL. He'd have been a fool not to do so, and Chris Petersen is not a fool.

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Beau Baldwin: His last year at Cal, he looked "smarter" when Saffel and Garbers came back from injuries. Funny how that works. Dude probably knows more than you think.

Tedford: He did a lot of great things at Cal, but that time is past. The book is closed, but the legend is written in it.

Spavital: This book is wide open. Can it be that Dykes got tired of Tony Franklin and hired Spav to carry out his own bidding? Was the fact that Spav was unsuccessful as a HC at Texas St significant? Can a smart OC all of a sudden get dumb? Did he mess up by hand-picking SJV as his anointed one? Why didn't he go deep against Auburn and stretch the field vertically like he did at Cal in 2016? Personnel issues? Screw up? What is a "Spav Offense all about, anyway?

Only the answers to the Spav questions are still relevant, although it's all fun! I'd like to hear from killa22 and berk18.? !

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I think we have enough data on Baldwin:

Yards per Play Ranking:

2017 Cal #101
2018 Cal #120
2019 Cal #110

2023 ASU #127

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While my sense is that Baldwin wasn't nearly inept as some accused him of being, I am in no way advocating for any rehabilitation of Baldwin at Cal, nor of his his legacy. He was two Offensive Coordinators ago and I have long-since moved on. Kinda concerned about the current one right now, but still hopeful.

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calumnus said:

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Big C said:

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Beau Baldwin: His last year at Cal, he looked "smarter" when Saffel and Garbers came back from injuries. Funny how that works. Dude probably knows more than you think.

Tedford: He did a lot of great things at Cal, but that time is past. The book is closed, but the legend is written in it.

Spavital: This book is wide open. Can it be that Dykes got tired of Tony Franklin and hired Spav to carry out his own bidding? Was the fact that Spav was unsuccessful as a HC at Texas St significant? Can a smart OC all of a sudden get dumb? Did he mess up by hand-picking SJV as his anointed one? Why didn't he go deep against Auburn and stretch the field vertically like he did at Cal in 2016? Personnel issues? Screw up? What is a "Spav Offense all about, anyway?

Only the answers to the Spav questions are still relevant, although it's all fun! I'd like to hear from killa22 and berk18.? !

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I think we have enough data on Baldwin:

Yards per Play Ranking:

2017 Cal #101
2018 Cal #120
2019 Cal #110

2023 ASU #127

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While my sense is that Baldwin wasn't nearly inept as some accused him of being, I am in no way advocating for any rehabilitation of Baldwin at Cal, nor of his his legacy. He was two Offensive Coordinators ago and I have long-since moved on. Kinda concerned about the current one right now, but still hopeful.

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Even though the numbers say Musgrave was a better OC, I still take Baldwin over Musgrave in the toilet bowl. I think its boils down to my belief Musgrave had much better talent at his disposal that he was unable to utilize, whereas Baldwin had a fairly bare offensive cupboard to work with.

That said, I was ready to move on from both of them.

I wonder if his wife is having conniptions about leaving the pacific coast to live in the desert.

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golden sloth said:

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Big C said:

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calumnus said:

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Big C said:

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Beau Baldwin: His last year at Cal, he looked "smarter" when Saffel and Garbers came back from injuries. Funny how that works. Dude probably knows more than you think.

Tedford: He did a lot of great things at Cal, but that time is past. The book is closed, but the legend is written in it.

Spavital: This book is wide open. Can it be that Dykes got tired of Tony Franklin and hired Spav to carry out his own bidding? Was the fact that Spav was unsuccessful as a HC at Texas St significant? Can a smart OC all of a sudden get dumb? Did he mess up by hand-picking SJV as his anointed one? Why didn't he go deep against Auburn and stretch the field vertically like he did at Cal in 2016? Personnel issues? Screw up? What is a "Spav Offense all about, anyway?

Only the answers to the Spav questions are still relevant, although it's all fun! I'd like to hear from killa22 and berk18.? !

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I think we have enough data on Baldwin:

Yards per Play Ranking:

2017 Cal #101
2018 Cal #120
2019 Cal #110

2023 ASU #127

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While my sense is that Baldwin wasn't nearly inept as some accused him of being, I am in no way advocating for any rehabilitation of Baldwin at Cal, nor of his his legacy. He was two Offensive Coordinators ago and I have long-since moved on. Kinda concerned about the current one right now, but still hopeful.

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Even though the numbers say Musgrave was a better OC, I still take Baldwin over Musgrave in the toilet bowl. I think its boils down to my belief Musgrave had much better talent at his disposal that he was unable to utilize, whereas Baldwin had a fairly bare offensive cupboard to work with.

That said, I was ready to move on from both of them.

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Baldwin inherited much of the great 2016 offensive talent, but just like at ASU it was obvious by game 3 that he could not produce a good offense and instead of getting fired at Cal the top players transferred out and he stayed for 3 years.

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Yea, I just checked the 2017 offensive depth chart. There were some decent to good players there.

Watson, enwere, and laird in the backfield.
Robertson, Noa, Duncan, and Wharton at receiver.
McMorris!

That's at least average.

https://calbears.com/documents/2017/8/28/2017_Cal_Football_Depth_Chart.pdf

Edit: I looked up the scoring that year and it really wasnt that bad. It was 27.3 ppg which was 68 overall. I remember it being much worse. It fell off a cliff the next year dropping to 19.6 for 118th.

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calumnus said:

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golden sloth said:

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Big C said:

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calumnus said:

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Big C said:

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Beau Baldwin: His last year at Cal, he looked "smarter" when Saffel and Garbers came back from injuries. Funny how that works. Dude probably knows more than you think.

Tedford: He did a lot of great things at Cal, but that time is past. The book is closed, but the legend is written in it.

Spavital: This book is wide open. Can it be that Dykes got tired of Tony Franklin and hired Spav to carry out his own bidding? Was the fact that Spav was unsuccessful as a HC at Texas St significant? Can a smart OC all of a sudden get dumb? Did he mess up by hand-picking SJV as his anointed one? Why didn't he go deep against Auburn and stretch the field vertically like he did at Cal in 2016? Personnel issues? Screw up? What is a "Spav Offense all about, anyway?

Only the answers to the Spav questions are still relevant, although it's all fun! I'd like to hear from killa22 and berk18.? !

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I think we have enough data on Baldwin:

Yards per Play Ranking:

2017 Cal #101
2018 Cal #120
2019 Cal #110

2023 ASU #127

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While my sense is that Baldwin wasn't nearly inept as some accused him of being, I am in no way advocating for any rehabilitation of Baldwin at Cal, nor of his his legacy. He was two Offensive Coordinators ago and I have long-since moved on. Kinda concerned about the current one right now, but still hopeful.

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Even though the numbers say Musgrave was a better OC, I still take Baldwin over Musgrave in the toilet bowl. I think its boils down to my belief Musgrave had much better talent at his disposal that he was unable to utilize, whereas Baldwin had a fairly bare offensive cupboard to work with.

That said, I was ready to move on from both of them.

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Baldwin inherited much of the great 2016 offensive talent, but just like at ASU it was obvious by game 3 that he could not produce a good offense and instead of getting fired at Cal the top players transferred out and he stayed for 3 years.

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Yea, I just checked the 2017 offensive depth chart. There were some decent to good players there.

Watson, enwere, and laird in the backfield.
Robertson, Noa, Duncan, and Wharton at receiver.
McMorris!

That's at least average.

https://calbears.com/documents/2017/8/28/2017_Cal_Football_Depth_Chart.pdf

Edit: I looked up the scoring that year and it really wasnt that bad. It was 27.3 ppg which was 68 overall. I remember it being much worse. It fell off a cliff the next year dropping to 19.6 for 118th.

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2017 we had a good running game with Laird and were <relatively> productive in the red zone. We could have been a lot more productive with McMorris on the field as an H-back.