Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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Just so happens that a lot of the local FCS programs are not your usual scrubs.

Sac St plays at ID 9/23 at 1. Who do you think will win?

calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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we should set up a home and home for Hawaii for the next decade. You know, for science.

eastbayyoungbear said:

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calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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we should set up a home and home for Hawaii for the next decade. You know, for science.

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I would wait until they get a proper stadium again.

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Sac St plays at ID 9/23 at 1. Who do you think will win?

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The home team.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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Idaho was 7-5 last season but overall have had 3 winning seasons since 2000. They weren't a strong FCS program when we scheduled them.

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Idaho was FBS and part of the Sun Belt Conference until 2017 when they dropped to FCS and rejoined the Big Sky Conference starting with the 2018 season. Not sure when they were scheduled but Idaho is a strong FCS program in arguably the best FCS conference in the country.

Just our luck. schedule someone when they're bad, then they get good.

AEM80 said:

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Just our luck. schedule someone when they're bad, then they get good.

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Kinda like the good ole days against the Beavers, Ducks and Cougars!?

C6Bear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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Idaho was 7-5 last season but overall have had 3 winning seasons since 2000. They weren't a strong FCS program when we scheduled them.

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Idaho was FBS and part of the Sun Belt Conference until 2017 when they dropped to FCS and rejoined the Big Sky Conference starting with the 2018 season. Not sure when they were schefules but Idaho is a strong FCS program in arguably the best FCS conference in the country.

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Here's Idaho's record since 2018 when they joined the FCS:

2018 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2019 5-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2020 2-4 (2-4 Big Sky)
2021 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2022 7-5 (6-2 Big Sky)

Idaho had an above average season last year and look very good this year, but they haven't been an FCS juggernaut in the 6 years since they joined the FCS. They are a combined 24-31 overall and 17-21 in the Big Sky conference. I'll agree that the Big Sky is probably the best FCS conference.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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C6Bear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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Idaho was 7-5 last season but overall have had 3 winning seasons since 2000. They weren't a strong FCS program when we scheduled them.

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Idaho was FBS and part of the Sun Belt Conference until 2017 when they dropped to FCS and rejoined the Big Sky Conference starting with the 2018 season. Not sure when they were schefules but Idaho is a strong FCS program in arguably the best FCS conference in the country.

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Here's Idaho's record since 2018 when they joined the FCS:

2018 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2019 5-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2020 2-4 (2-4 Big Sky)
2021 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2022 7-5 (6-2 Big Sky)

Idaho had an above average season last year and look very good this year, but they haven't been an FCS juggernaut in the 6 years since they joined the FCS. They are a combined 24-31 overall and 17-21 in the Big Sky conference. I'll agree that the Big Sky is probably the best FCS conference.

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So I was at a conference up there last year and there speaking to a colleague who lived there and he was saying that the Idaho people were deciding that they wanted to invest more in football. That most of the legislature and the state university infrastructure were mainly Idaho alum and they are tired of boise being the star in the state. Sounds a bit familiar. Anyway. Guess they are spending state funds for
Idaho to get better. The drop down to FCS was a real painful thing I guess. Expectations are that they eventually move back up. But if they continue to win at the FCS level then maybe that is better.

Boise is not doing nearly as well as they were.

Oski87 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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C6Bear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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Idaho was 7-5 last season but overall have had 3 winning seasons since 2000. They weren't a strong FCS program when we scheduled them.

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Idaho was FBS and part of the Sun Belt Conference until 2017 when they dropped to FCS and rejoined the Big Sky Conference starting with the 2018 season. Not sure when they were schefules but Idaho is a strong FCS program in arguably the best FCS conference in the country.

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Here's Idaho's record since 2018 when they joined the FCS:

2018 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2019 5-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2020 2-4 (2-4 Big Sky)
2021 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2022 7-5 (6-2 Big Sky)

Idaho had an above average season last year and look very good this year, but they haven't been an FCS juggernaut in the 6 years since they joined the FCS. They are a combined 24-31 overall and 17-21 in the Big Sky conference. I'll agree that the Big Sky is probably the best FCS conference.

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So I was at a conference up there last year and there speaking to a colleague who lived there and he was saying that the Idaho people were deciding that they wanted to invest more in football. That most of the legislature and the state university infrastructure were mainly Idaho alum and they are tired of boise being the star in the state. Sounds a bit familiar. Anyway. Guess they are spending state funds for
Idaho to get better. The drop down to FCS was a real painful thing I guess. Expectations are that they eventually move back up. But if they continue to win at the FCS level then maybe that is better.

Boise is not doing nearly as well as they were.

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So Idaho is the land grant college established in 1889 and located in Moscow.

Idaho State was established in 1901 and used to be "Idaho Tech" then "Southern Branch" around the time our own "Southern Branch" was established.

Boise State was founded in 1932 by the Episcopal Church and was Boise Junior College until 1965.
Became a public in 1969 as "Boise State College."

Maybe to avoid confusion Idaho should just compete as "Moscow." Or maybe "Ida"? Everyone knows "Ida" is short for Idaho as in Ore-Ida Potatoes! (Oregon could compete as "Ore"). Or how about if they use "Ida Moscow"?

Maybe change mascots to the "Moscow Mules?

calumnus said:

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Oski87 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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C6Bear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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Idaho was 7-5 last season but overall have had 3 winning seasons since 2000. They weren't a strong FCS program when we scheduled them.

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Idaho was FBS and part of the Sun Belt Conference until 2017 when they dropped to FCS and rejoined the Big Sky Conference starting with the 2018 season. Not sure when they were schefules but Idaho is a strong FCS program in arguably the best FCS conference in the country.

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Here's Idaho's record since 2018 when they joined the FCS:

2018 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2019 5-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2020 2-4 (2-4 Big Sky)
2021 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2022 7-5 (6-2 Big Sky)

Idaho had an above average season last year and look very good this year, but they haven't been an FCS juggernaut in the 6 years since they joined the FCS. They are a combined 24-31 overall and 17-21 in the Big Sky conference. I'll agree that the Big Sky is probably the best FCS conference.

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So I was at a conference up there last year and there speaking to a colleague who lived there and he was saying that the Idaho people were deciding that they wanted to invest more in football. That most of the legislature and the state university infrastructure were mainly Idaho alum and they are tired of boise being the star in the state. Sounds a bit familiar. Anyway. Guess they are spending state funds for
Idaho to get better. The drop down to FCS was a real painful thing I guess. Expectations are that they eventually move back up. But if they continue to win at the FCS level then maybe that is better.

Boise is not doing nearly as well as they were.

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So Idaho is the land grant college established in 1889 and located in Moscow.

Idaho State was established in 1901 and used to be "Idaho Tech" then "Southern Branch" around the time our own "Southern Branch" was established.

Boise State was founded in 1932 by the Episcopal Church and was Boise Junior College until 1965.
Became a public in 1969 as "Boise State College."

Maybe to avoid confusion Idaho should just compete as "Moscow." Or maybe "Ida"? Everyone knows "Ida" is short for Idaho as in Ore-Ida Potatoes! (Oregon could compete as "Ore"). Or how about if they use "Ida Moscow"?

Maybe change mascots to the "Moscow Mules?

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For your sarcasm to actually make sense, "Moscow" would already have to be a highly respected, powerful brand name known the world over that they then latch onto, not the other way around. You're being intellectually dishonest if you consider this an apples to apples comparison with Cal/California/Berkeley/Cal Berkeley's predicament..

C6Bear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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Idaho was 7-5 last season but overall have had 3 winning seasons since 2000. They weren't a strong FCS program when we scheduled them.

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Idaho was FBS and part of the Sun Belt Conference until 2017 when they dropped to FCS and rejoined the Big Sky Conference starting with the 2018 season. Not sure when they were schefules but Idaho is a strong FCS program in arguably the best FCS conference in the country.

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None of that indicates Idaho was a strong FCS team when we scheduled them. I follow the Big Sky intently as I am employed by a Big Sky university. They've been an average to below average team since returning with just a slight uptick last year (better but still not great).

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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C6Bear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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72CalBear said:

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Sac State up - Idaho not far behind!

College football top 25: Sacramento State leaps North Dakota State in FCS Power Rankings after Stanford upset (msn.com)

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Playing strong FCS programs is high risk / low reward. Far better to find weak FBS teams to be your patsies.

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Idaho was 7-5 last season but overall have had 3 winning seasons since 2000. They weren't a strong FCS program when we scheduled them.

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Idaho was FBS and part of the Sun Belt Conference until 2017 when they dropped to FCS and rejoined the Big Sky Conference starting with the 2018 season. Not sure when they were schefules but Idaho is a strong FCS program in arguably the best FCS conference in the country.

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Here's Idaho's record since 2018 when they joined the FCS:

2018 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2019 5-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2020 2-4 (2-4 Big Sky)
2021 4-7 (3-5 Big Sky)
2022 7-5 (6-2 Big Sky)

Idaho had an above average season last year and look very good this year, but they haven't been an FCS juggernaut in the 6 years since they joined the FCS. They are a combined 24-31 overall and 17-21 in the Big Sky conference. I'll agree that the Big Sky is probably the best FCS conference.

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The same could have been said about Sac St before Troy Taylor took over. When someone is scheduled doesn't mean a lot anymore considering how fast programs can change in this day and age with good coaching, recruiting, and use of the portal. Idaho has obviously stepped up their game to compete in the loaded Big Sky.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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When someone is scheduled doesn't mean a lot anymore considering how fast programs can change in this day and age with good coaching, recruiting, and use of the portal.

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Except for Cal, where nothing seems to change..

Golden One said:

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C6Bear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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When someone is scheduled doesn't mean a lot anymore considering how fast programs can change in this day and age with good coaching, recruiting, and use of the portal.

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Except for Cal, where nothing seems to change..

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It is quite wild - we significantly changed the roster and yet here we are staring down the very real possibility of the same below-average record as always.

Seems like it's an institutional problem right?

Econ141 said:

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Golden One said:

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C6Bear said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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When someone is scheduled doesn't mean a lot anymore considering how fast programs can change in this day and age with good coaching, recruiting, and use of the portal.

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Except for Cal, where nothing seems to change..

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It is quite wild - we significantly changed the roster and yet here we are staring down the very real possibility of the same below-average record as always.

Seems like it's an institutional problem right?

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Yep. Haven't had a pro-athletics chancellor, a knowledgeable AD, or a decent coach in a long time.