DiabloWags said:

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Gotta love all the Johnny Come Lately's to tell us to embrace the MORAL victory.

Yawn.

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I'm lifelong trained to find the moral victory in Cal football games!!
Tell me, when did your training on becoming rude to people begin?

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calumnus said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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I was relieved because I thought he called timeout so we could send in the kicking team

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TBH, I thought that was what he was going to do, as well. But then he kept the offense on the field. So I was confused. That made zero sense to me.

Had he run out the kicking team, I could've lived with it. But I do think the right play was to be aggressive and force SC to beat Cal with a FG with 58 seconds remaining. Our defense was struggling in the second half, but I do think it could've held SC out of FG range for one minute.

That JW called timeout and then ran the 2 pt conversion was just incomprehensible to me..

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People realize this isn't the nfl and you only have to stop your opponent in the red zone once to win in overtime? We do well in short fields, usually. And we were rolling on offense. It was just purely boneheaded to not take the tie.

I still think we'd have given up a td with under a minute tho. God this team needs toughness and leadership in the worst way.

Also, the Jett should be our #2 running back. He's awesome. Let the guys play.

01Bear said:

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bluehenbear said:

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All year we take the fair catch on punts. The one time it was the safest play to do that and take possession we decide not to and fumble.

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Especially when the special teams coaching has been practically nonexistent.

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That was all on Hunter, I could tell with Ott and Ilfanse out guys were pressing to make plays and he wanted to show out and found out.

01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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I don't disagree. However, I'm not sure I saw anything to suggest the offense didn't know what to run there. Even if they didn't, then that's another failure by the coaching staff. The team should know exactly what it was going to be running. Either way, JW fouled up.

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This is one of the issues with a defensive coach. The big in game decisions, like whether to kick or go for it, largely depend on knowing what play you would call if you do go for it and what you think your chances of success would be.

cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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Right, especially when your backfield has a freshman QB and a 4th string RB.

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so are you saying you'd rather take that same personnel into OT? With a completely gassed defense? I

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Yes. Absolutely. Anything can happen but you have to keep playing.

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LunchTime said:

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Hey Diablo, no need to send a DM. Keep it on the board., don't be a *****.

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**** YOU.

Concord Tom (who doesnt even watch college football) tunes in for the last series.

Class of '82

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Good one.

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You're terribly lost.
Go put your panties back on.

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Stop talking about my panties. You're like a little brother to me. Nothing is going to happen.

WalterSobchak said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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Right, especially when your backfield has a freshman QB and a 4th string RB.

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so are you saying you'd rather take that same personnel into OT? With a completely gassed defense? I

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Yes. Absolutely. Anything can happen but you have to keep playing.

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Ott and Ilfanse were gone and we were not stopping SC.

DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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LunchTime said:

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Hey Diablo, no need to send a DM. Keep it on the board., don't be a *****.

Quote:

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**** YOU.

Concord Tom (who doesnt even watch college football) tunes in for the last series.

Class of '82

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Good one.

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I got a couple of those AggroWags DMs as well, lol.

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Says Putin88 who HATES America.
Shocker.

GFY.

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You're embarrassing yourself.

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Im not the guy that spends EVERY DAY posting 12x in the OT Forum because theyre LONELY with no life.

That's you buddy.

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Ha.
You'd still be posting there if you hadn't lost an argument with someone else and forced yourself into exile only to save face for yourself.

If you show up again, you'll get laughed at. You know it.

But, wait, how would you know what my posting habits are unless you were shadow reading it anyways?

Kettle, meet pot.

Strykur said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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Right, especially when your backfield has a freshman QB and a 4th string RB.

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so are you saying you'd rather take that same personnel into OT? With a completely gassed defense? I

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Yes. Absolutely. Anything can happen but you have to keep playing.

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Ott and Ilfanse were gone and we were not stopping SC.

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SC wasn't stopping us either.

WalterSobchak said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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Right, especially when your backfield has a freshman QB and a 4th string RB.

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so are you saying you'd rather take that same personnel into OT? With a completely gassed defense? I

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Yes. Absolutely. Anything can happen but you have to keep playing.

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"Absolutely"? Sounds like enough difference opinion on this board to make it absolutely not absolute. Even Pawlasski called for the 2. I agreed also because I've seen this movie too many times where we tie and just get stomped in OT because our D is toast. That's what memory serves.

bearsandgiants said:

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01Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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I was relieved because I thought he called timeout so we could send in the kicking team

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TBH, I thought that was what he was going to do, as well. But then he kept the offense on the field. So I was confused. That made zero sense to me.

Had he run out the kicking team, I could've lived with it. But I do think the right play was to be aggressive and force SC to beat Cal with a FG with 58 seconds remaining. Our defense was struggling in the second half, but I do think it could've held SC out of FG range for one minute.

That JW called timeout and then ran the 2 pt conversion was just incomprehensible to me..

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People realize this isn't the nfl and you only have to stop your opponent in the red zone once to win in overtime? We do well in short fields, usually. And we were rolling on offense. It was just purely boneheaded to not take the tie.

I still think we'd have given up a td with under a minute tho. God this team needs toughness and leadership in the worst way.

Also, the Jett should be our #2 running back. He's awesome. Let the guys play.

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I'm not sure Cal would be able to stop SC with a short field. Even assuming it could, SC probably hits a FG (though I admit their special teams was pretty bad today). I'm not so sure Cal's special teams would have been able to match that FG.

Fourth straight year of no bowl game. If we were any sort of serious program, Wilcox would absolutely be gone.

Strykur said:

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01Bear said:

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bluehenbear said:

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All year we take the fair catch on punts. The one time it was the safest play to do that and take possession we decide not to and fumble.

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Especially when the special teams coaching has been practically nonexistent.

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That was all on Hunter, I could tell with Ott and Ilfanse out guys were pressing to make plays and he wanted to show out and found out.

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Agreed. One thing I absolutely hate is when players go backwards thinking that they'll be able to spring free for a huge gain. There are only a handful of players who can do that; the last Cal player who had that ability was Desean Jackson (though Jahvid Best had the speed and quickness, I don't recall ever seeing him try to go backward in order to get free).

calgldnbear said:

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Time to show up

Go Bears!!!!!!

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Time to call it quits....

Strykur said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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Right, especially when your backfield has a freshman QB and a 4th string RB.

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so are you saying you'd rather take that same personnel into OT? With a completely gassed defense? I

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Yes. Absolutely. Anything can happen but you have to keep playing.

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Ott and Ilfanse were gone and we were not stopping SC.

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You're speculating to justify your bias. I can do it too: Maybe SC wouldn't stop us. Maybe we blitz and cause a fumble. Maybe we top another ball at the line and pick it off. Maybe we jump a route. The list goes on and on...

calumnus said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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I don't disagree. However, I'm not sure I saw anything to suggest the offense didn't know what to run there. Even if they didn't, then that's another failure by the coaching staff. The team should know exactly what it was going to be running. Either way, JW fouled up.

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This is one of the issues with a defensive coach. The big in game decisions, like whether to kick or go for it, largely depend on knowing what play you would call if you do go for it and what you think your chances of success would be.

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I don't know if it's a problem with defensive coaches or just a problem with Cal's coach. Saban never seemed unsure what to run after a TD. While Saban could absolutely be an exception to the rule, there have been plenty of other defensive minded coaches who don't struggle with the call.

cal83dls79 said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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Right, especially when your backfield has a freshman QB and a 4th string RB.

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so are you saying you'd rather take that same personnel into OT? With a completely gassed defense? I

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Yes. Absolutely. Anything can happen but you have to keep playing.

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"Absolutely"? Sounds like enough difference opinion on this board to make it absolutely not absolute. Even Pawlasski called for the 2. I agreed also because I've seen this movie too many times where we tie and just get stomped in OT because our D is toast. That's what memory serves.

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20 years ago we beat SC in overtime at home without our starting QB or RB.

When did we lose in OT at home?

TandemBear said:

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DiabloWags said:

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These threads continue to get more and more depressing.
As a result, my sprinklers are in top notch shape this year!

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OK, this is ANOTHER sprinkler mention. This HAS to stop!

What it is it with work on sprinkler systems? Don't you have more interesting things to work on? I can offer my services and teach y'all some bicycle maintenance so you'll be wrenching on those sweet $12k Colnagos and Yetis instead of digging in the dirt!

And maybe Diablo and others can teach us some Porsche maintenance tricks, so the rest of you can get greasy working on your valves, ceramic brakes and double-wishbone suspension bits!

Let's up our "Saturday maintenance" game, shall we?

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This was pretty funny.
2-pt conversion for TANDEMBEAR !!!

01Bear said:

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Strykur said:

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01Bear said:

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bluehenbear said:

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All year we take the fair catch on punts. The one time it was the safest play to do that and take possession we decide not to and fumble.

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Especially when the special teams coaching has been practically nonexistent.

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That was all on Hunter, I could tell with Ott and Ilfanse out guys were pressing to make plays and he wanted to show out and found out.

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Agreed. One thing I absolutely hate is when players go backwards thinking that they'll be able to spring free for a huge gain. There are only a handful of players who can do that; the last Cal player who had that ability was Desean Jackson (though Jahvid Best had the speed and quickness, I don't recall ever seeing him try to go backward in order to get free).

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Best was so fast he just ran past people.
One of my favorite CalBears of ALL TIME!!!!

01Bear said:

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calumnus said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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I don't disagree. However, I'm not sure I saw anything to suggest the offense didn't know what to run there. Even if they didn't, then that's another failure by the coaching staff. The team should know exactly what it was going to be running. Either way, JW fouled up.

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This is one of the issues with a defensive coach. The big in game decisions, like whether to kick or go for it, largely depend on knowing what play you would call if you do go for it and what you think your chances of success would be.

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I don't know if it's a problem with defensive coaches or just a problem with Cal's coach. Saban never seemed unsure what to run after a TD. While Saban could absolutely be an exception to the rule, there have been plenty of other defensive minded coaches who don't struggle with the call.

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Nick Saban has been a head coach for 29 years. He clearly figured it out.

I would hire a defensive coach that has shown success as a HC, even at a lower level. I would not hire a DC and then pay him $4-5 million a year to learn on the job how to be a HC with an 11 year guaranteed contract.

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Fourth straight year of no bowl game. If we were any sort of serious program, Wilcox would absolutely be gone.

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If we play like we did today against our remaining opponents, we could win at least 2 of our remaining games, possibly 3 with a bit of luck. Other than Oregon, no team left on the schedule is better than USC.

Question is depth and injuries.

WalterSobchak said:

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Strykur said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Cal88 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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01Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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socaltownie said:

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The right and gutsy call

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You have to play the odds, didn't feel good about that decision.

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I liked the call until JW called timeout. That was just stupid.

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Well considering if Endries isn't held the entire time he's wide effing open on the 2 pt conv it wasn't stupid. Pac-12 refs basically won USC that game. That's not being salty..that's literally what happened. The Timeout is meaningless if we score that.

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I don't disagree that the refs gifted SC a win with the blown calls on the 2 pt conversion attempt.

That said, had Cal just run the 2 pt conversion play without the timeout, SC wouldn't have had time to set up its defense as well. Also, if Cal failed, it would have left Cal with three times out, not two.

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Its more important to get the 2pt play call correct then to save a timeout with under a minute to go.

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Right, especially when your backfield has a freshman QB and a 4th string RB.

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so are you saying you'd rather take that same personnel into OT? With a completely gassed defense? I

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Yes. Absolutely. Anything can happen but you have to keep playing.

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Ott and Ilfanse were gone and we were not stopping SC.

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You're speculating to justify your bias. I can do it too: Maybe SC wouldn't stop us. Maybe we blitz and cause a fumble. Maybe we top another ball at the line and pick it off. Maybe we jump a route. The list goes on and on...

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Maybe we lose in OT, and then we're *****ing about not going for 2.
It's cute to think about winning in OT but that's a hard sell.

concordtom said:

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philly1121 said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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Why? Why? Why? Why?

You are at home! Geez!

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Agree. I don't know anymore. This series is over for a long time if not forever. Tie the game and keep it going? I don't know.

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No!
Flocking step on their throat and send them packing when you have the chance.

Go have a drink and it'll be okay.
It's just a game.

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Going for two there is 12 year old playing PlayStation in mommy's basement bullshyte. It isn't stepping on their neck. The team that thinks they are better kicks the point and has the confidence to know they can win in overtime. You are at home with the crowd behind you. You have the advantage.

Going for two is a function of "OH MY GOD!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BEAT USC!!!! I HAVE TO GO FOR IT NOW!!!!!!!"

I get that some fans like to be aggressive but as coach you need to have the maturity to act like you belong there instead of being desperate.

BearlyCareAnymore said:

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concordtom said:

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philly1121 said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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Why? Why? Why? Why?

You are at home! Geez!

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Agree. I don't know anymore. This series is over for a long time if not forever. Tie the game and keep it going? I don't know.

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No!
Flocking step on their throat and send them packing when you have the chance.

Go have a drink and it'll be okay.
It's just a game.

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Going for two there is 12 year old playing PlayStation in mommy's basement bullshyte. It isn't stepping on their neck. The team that thinks they are better kicks the point and has the confidence to know they can win in overtime. You are at home with the crowd behind you. You have the advantage.

Going for two is a function of "OH MY GOD!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BEAT USC!!!! I HAVE TO GO FOR IT NOW!!!!!!!"

I get that some fans like to be aggressive but as coach you need to have the maturity to act like you belong there instead of being desperate.

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SC had a full minute plus timeouts to get in field goal range, are you really thinking that would not have happened?
I prefer to play for OT at home, but Celeb Williams is something else.

Cal88 said:

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westcoast101 said:

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Fourth straight year of no bowl game. If we were any sort of serious program, Wilcox would absolutely be gone.

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If we play like we did today against our remaining opponents, we could win at least 2 of our remaining games, possibly 3 with a bit of luck. Other than Oregon, no team left on the schedule is better than USC.

Question is depth and injuries.

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According to Sagarin Recent, UCLA is better (as is of course Oregon) and we play them in LA where we rarely win, but I like our chances against WSU at CMS and Stanford in Palo Alto.

Cal88 said:

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westcoast101 said:

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Fourth straight year of no bowl game. If we were any sort of serious program, Wilcox would absolutely be gone.

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If we play like we did today against our remaining opponents, we could win at least 2 of our remaining games, possibly 3 with a bit of luck. Other than Oregon, no team left on the schedule is better than USC.

Question is depth and injuries.

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Agree with the first statement. Disagree with the second. USC is extremely overrated. Their defense is flat out terrible.

Their conference wins are against teams that are 5-17 in conference. And they barely beat 3 of them. They have had the easiest schedule you can imagine and all the difficulty was back loaded. They will lose out.

Strykur said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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concordtom said:

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philly1121 said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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Why? Why? Why? Why?

You are at home! Geez!

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Agree. I don't know anymore. This series is over for a long time if not forever. Tie the game and keep it going? I don't know.

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No!
Flocking step on their throat and send them packing when you have the chance.

Go have a drink and it'll be okay.
It's just a game.

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Going for two there is 12 year old playing PlayStation in mommy's basement bullshyte. It isn't stepping on their neck. The team that thinks they are better kicks the point and has the confidence to know they can win in overtime. You are at home with the crowd behind you. You have the advantage.

Going for two is a function of "OH MY GOD!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BEAT USC!!!! I HAVE TO GO FOR IT NOW!!!!!!!"

I get that some fans like to be aggressive but as coach you need to have the maturity to act like you belong there instead of being desperate.

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SC had a full minute plus timeouts to get in field goal range, are you really thinking that would not have happened?
I prefer to play for OT at home, but Celeb Williams is something else.

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Exactly. If there was less time on the clock the decision is 50-50. With almost a minute left going for 2 is lose if you don't make it, probably also lose even if you do make it.

Kicking for the tie, SC will be more conservative. Closer to a 50-50 chance of winning in OT like we did 20 years ago.

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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Why? Why? Why? Why?

You are at home! Geez!

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Agree. I don't know anymore. This series is over for a long time if not forever. Tie the game and keep it going? I don't know.

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No!
Flocking step on their throat and send them packing when you have the chance.

Go have a drink and it'll be okay.
It's just a game.

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Going for two there is 12 year old playing PlayStation in mommy's basement bullshyte. It isn't stepping on their neck. The team that thinks they are better kicks the point and has the confidence to know they can win in overtime. You are at home with the crowd behind you. You have the advantage.

Going for two is a function of "OH MY GOD!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BEAT USC!!!! I HAVE TO GO FOR IT NOW!!!!!!!"

I get that some fans like to be aggressive but as coach you need to have the maturity to act like you belong there instead of being desperate.

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SC had a full minute plus timeouts to get in field goal range, are you really thinking that would not have happened?
I prefer to play for OT at home, but Celeb Williams is something else.

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1, yes. They went 3 and out 3 times in the half, 4 and out once and fumbled on the first play once. They weren't unstoppable by any means. Sounds like Cal defeatist goggles to me
2. Irrelevant to the decision since if they do that they win either way

Wilcox going for it was the right decision.
It was about damn time that he let his balls hang out.
We need that level of aggressive coaching in every game.
everybody was tired of playing it safe, so he changed his approach!

That was a great game. nobody cares about moral victory rhetoric.
I'd rather lose a game that we showed out, than lose the game because a coach forgot he's got a pair.

I don't think that it mattered whether we went for one or two. SC had all three TO's and our defense was gassed.

I think the game was lost when Hunter decided to play hero ball and fumbled.

Oh well, I think Mendoza is going to be really good - very accurate even under pressure. Time to wait 'til Next Year (again).

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These threads continue to get more and more depressing.
As a result, my sprinklers are in top notch shape this year!

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OK, this is ANOTHER sprinkler mention. This HAS to stop!

What it is it with work on sprinkler systems? Don't you have more interesting things to work on? I can offer my services and teach y'all some bicycle maintenance so you'll be wrenching on those sweet $12k Colnagos and Yetis instead of digging in the dirt!

And maybe Diablo and others can teach us some Porsche maintenance tricks, so the rest of you can get greasy working on your valves, ceramic brakes and double-wishbone suspension bits!

Let's up our "Saturday maintenance" game, shall we?

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This was pretty funny.
2-pt conversion for TANDEMBEAR !!!

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He should have gone for the extra point and OT instead,

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Pro Palestine protest delaying the kickoff

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I assume the record got set straight on this somewhere in this 18 page thread:

UC Berkeley Students Threaten Hunger Strike to Reinstate Professor Suspended for Stalking | KQED


https://www.kqed.org/news/11965822/uc-berkeley-students-threaten-hunger-strike-to-reinstate-professor-suspended-for-stalking

"Supporters have begun preparing for this Saturday's football game and the hunger strike to follow."

Somehow I think the hunger strike duration records of the IRA prisoners at Long Kesh (HM Prison Maze ) in 1981 are not in jeopardy.

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Fourth straight year of no bowl game. If we were any sort of serious program, Wilcox would absolutely be gone.

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If we play like we did today against our remaining opponents, we could win at least 2 of our remaining games, possibly 3 with a bit of luck. Other than Oregon, no team left on the schedule is better than USC.

Question is depth and injuries.

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We'll get crushed next week. Also, highly unlikely we beat UCLA.

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Cal88 said:

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Fourth straight year of no bowl game. If we were any sort of serious program, Wilcox would absolutely be gone.

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If we play like we did today against our remaining opponents, we could win at least 2 of our remaining games, possibly 3 with a bit of luck. Other than Oregon, no team left on the schedule is better than USC.

Question is depth and injuries.

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According to Sagarin Recent, UCLA is better (as is of course Oregon) and we play them in LA where we rarely win, but I like our chances against WSU at CMS and Stanford in Palo Alto.

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Sagarin has USC at 19 and UCLA at 22. USC is much better at QB, Williams is an NFL QB. Dante Moore was not very good at UCLA, but Chase Garbers' little brother is coming along OK for the powder blues. Still a big drop off from Williams.

Playing on the road at the end of the season with nothing to lose might actually be a plus for this Cal team.

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JimSox said:

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Pro Palestine protest delaying the kickoff

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I assume the record got set straight on this somewhere in this 18 page thread:

UC Berkeley Students Threaten Hunger Strike to Reinstate Professor Suspended for Stalking | KQED


https://www.kqed.org/news/11965822/uc-berkeley-students-threaten-hunger-strike-to-reinstate-professor-suspended-for-stalking

"Supporters have begun preparing for this Saturday's football game and the hunger strike to follow."

Somehow I think the hunger strike duration records of the IRA prisoners at Long Kesh (HM Prison Maze ) in 1981 are not in jeopardy.

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Reading the article and what she admits to, the protesters are out of their minds