I'm in Berkeley and I get it through Comcast. Have to pay a little extra for the package though

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oskidunker said:

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Why are we playing smu every year?

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The ACC has "protected rivalries" so Cal, Stanford and SMU as the new guys are a group. Consider us the "Western pod." It reduces the travel.

However, it is a great result for us as it gives us a strong foothold in Texas for recruiting.

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And SMU as a recent G5 should be a weaker opponent, on average, than the rest. At least in the early years.

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If they can buy their way into a conference they can buy the players as well. I expect them to vastly upgrade their roster in the offseason.

Well one good thing..next year our schedule is going to be amazing so it could be a big recruiting boost. Auburn/FSU/Miami/maybe Notre Dame/SDSU (SoCal for recruits) and SMU (Dallas recruits) even the Pittsburgh area typically has some great linebacker types come from there. All hotbed recruiting areas. But win/loss is going to be rough lol. Hope we get some more depth in OL/DL and keep Ott. Mendoza looks like we accidentally found an amazing QB.I love the way this kid plays. Hurricane fans are already thinking we're an easy win rofl.

golden sloth said:

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sycasey said:

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calumnus said:

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oskidunker said:

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Why are we playing smu every year?

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The ACC has "protected rivalries" so Cal, Stanford and SMU as the new guys are a group. Consider us the "Western pod." It reduces the travel.

However, it is a great result for us as it gives us a strong foothold in Texas for recruiting.

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And SMU as a recent G5 should be a weaker opponent, on average, than the rest. At least in the early years.

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If they can buy their way into a conference they can buy the players as well. I expect them to vastly upgrade their roster in the offseason.

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As I posted above, according to Sagarin, they would be the second best team in the ACC this season.

golden sloth said:

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sycasey said:

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calumnus said:

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oskidunker said:

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Why are we playing smu every year?

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The ACC has "protected rivalries" so Cal, Stanford and SMU as the new guys are a group. Consider us the "Western pod." It reduces the travel.

However, it is a great result for us as it gives us a strong foothold in Texas for recruiting.

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And SMU as a recent G5 should be a weaker opponent, on average, than the rest. At least in the early years.

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If they can buy their way into a conference they can buy the players as well. I expect them to vastly upgrade their roster in the offseason.

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Yeah SMU is gifted a great recruiting boost with the schedule. They may be the biggest winner of any school in the country in terms of talent upgrade.

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Cool: Fernando Mendoza's hometown Canes come to CMS and Cal travels to FL all in year 1.

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Look at 2027 which would be Mendoza's senior year: we are currently scheduled to play both Florida and Florida State at CMS and play Miami in Miami.

The 2027 schedule so far:
Florida
Florida State
Boston College
Louisville
SMU
@Georgia Tech
@Miami
@Pitt
@Stanford

The rankings are not real. SMU plays a degraded conference schedule and Cal/Stanford probably play in the toughest conference atm lol. When SMU plays the big boys week in week out depth is going to hit them in the face. In fairness its hitting us in the face atm lol.

MinotStateBeav said:

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Well one good thing..next year our schedule is going to be amazing so it could be a big recruiting boost. Auburn/FSU/Miami/maybe Notre Dame/SDSU (SoCal for recruits) and SMU (Dallas recruits) even the Pittsburgh area typically has some great linebacker types come from there. All hotbed recruiting areas. But win/loss is going to be rough lol. Hope we get some more depth in OL/DL and keep Ott. Mendoza looks like we accidentally found an amazing QB.I love the way this kid plays. Hurricane fans are already thinking we're an easy win rofl.

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Yes, most of conference games are going to be in recruiting hotbeds south of the Mason-Dixon Line. I think we will stand out as a different option. I think we should focus our OOC on good recruiting, travel destinations in the West. We have SDSU and UNLV scheduled, I think we should extend those, especially SDSU. I think we should also add Hawaii. Those are the 3 MWC (future PAC?) schools to play regularly. Maybe Nevada.

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Well one good thing..next year our schedule is going to be amazing so it could be a big recruiting boost. Auburn/FSU/Miami/maybe Notre Dame/SDSU (SoCal for recruits) and SMU (Dallas recruits) even the Pittsburgh area typically has some great linebacker types come from there. All hotbed recruiting areas. But win/loss is going to be rough lol. Hope we get some more depth in OL/DL and keep Ott. Mendoza looks like we accidentally found an amazing QB.I love the way this kid plays. Hurricane fans are already thinking we're an easy win rofl.

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Yes, most of conference games are going to be in recruiting hotbeds south of the Mason-Dixon Line. I think we will stand out as a different option. I think we should focus our OOC on good recruiting, travel destinations in the West. We have SDSU and UNLV scheduled, I think we should extend those, especially SDSU. I think we should also add Hawaii. Those are the 3 MWC (future PAC?) schools to play regularly. Maybe Nevada.

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I'd say add Sac State/UC Davis as a normal C tier OOC because recruiting the sac area is going to be huge.

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The rankings are not real. SMU plays a degraded conference schedule and Cal/Stanford probably play in the toughest conference atm lol. When SMU plays the big boys week in week out depth is going to hit them in the face. In fairness its hitting us in the face atm lol.

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Yes, Sagarin is just math and the transitive property. Their only losses are to Oklahoma and TCU on the road. True, their wins are against bad teams, but for example, SMU beat Tulsa by 59, but UW beat Tulsa by 33 and Oklahoma beat Tulsa by 49. Similarly, SMU beat Temple by 55 and Miami beat Temple by 34. To the algorithm that makes SMU look better than UW, Oklahoma and Miami, but it is probably just a case of SMU running up the score on a hapless opponent instead of taking their foot off the gas.

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Well one good thing..next year our schedule is going to be amazing so it could be a big recruiting boost. Auburn/FSU/Miami/maybe Notre Dame/SDSU (SoCal for recruits) and SMU (Dallas recruits) even the Pittsburgh area typically has some great linebacker types come from there. All hotbed recruiting areas. But win/loss is going to be rough lol. Hope we get some more depth in OL/DL and keep Ott. Mendoza looks like we accidentally found an amazing QB.I love the way this kid plays. Hurricane fans are already thinking we're an easy win rofl.

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Yes, most of conference games are going to be in recruiting hotbeds south of the Mason-Dixon Line. I think we will stand out as a different option. I think we should focus our OOC on good recruiting, travel destinations in the West. We have SDSU and UNLV scheduled, I think we should extend those, especially SDSU. I think we should also add Hawaii. Those are the 3 MWC (future PAC?) schools to play regularly. Maybe Nevada.

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I'd say add Sac State/UC Davis as a normal C tier OOC because recruiting the sac area is going to be huge.

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Yes, though we don't do home and away so the recruiting advantage of playing Sac State and UC Davis is negligible. Recruits and players from Sacramento can easily attend games in Berkeley. However, they are good C games because they don't require a home and home and their fans can easily attend. So it is good for attendance vs another comparable school. A similar argument could be made for San Jose and Fresno if they do not require a home and home. Though Fresno is usually a tough team thst you get no credit for besting. Nevada and UNLV are nicer destinations for Cal fans.

I do think Cal should focus on finding the easiest opponent as the 4 OOC opponent at least for next year. Getting 3 freebie wins and a possible toss-up vs Auburn (they look bad now but they can spend big to upgrade).
Going 3-1 means a 5-3 conference record is an 8-4 record with a bowl game for win 9.

That will help get the momentum of the program and hopefully improve recruiting + NIL money.

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Do y'all get ACCN out there?

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So I get ACCN in SoCal, but I also get Pac12 which I won't need any more. Question is, are there more than one ACC channels so we can see every away game even though I am not in the Bay Area...What have ACC fans say in Nebraska or Denver done over the years might hold my answer---not in an ACC city but do they show all games coupled with Fox, ESPN, etc.???

All ACC games are either on the ACC Network, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ABC, or the ACC Digital Network… also a few football and basketball games on the CW now.

The ACC Digital Network is through espn and if you know how to watch stuff on the espn app, acc digital network is there (not behind a paywall like ESPN+)

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youngbear1992 said:

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ACC football schedule for 2024: pic.twitter.com/zOoBtK0cLo

— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) October 30, 2023

FSU, Pitt, Wake Forest on the road

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Is there a list of school names somewhere. Have no idea what these symbols mean for the most part. Very frustrating.

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Holy ***** Are you aware of the sport of football?

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ACC football schedule for 2024: pic.twitter.com/zOoBtK0cLo

— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) October 30, 2023

FSU, Pitt, Wake Forest on the road

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Is there a list of school names somewhere. Have no idea what these symbols mean for the most part. Very frustrating.

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Holy ***** Are you aware of the sport of football?

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I guess not. I just started watching college football. I just love the half time entertainment.

We are a road game for stanford this year. So, they have only 3 real ACC roadies. That means every other year we have only 3 real ACC roadies. Not too bad.

MinotStateBeav said:

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Well one good thing..next year our schedule is going to be amazing so it could be a big recruiting boost. Auburn/FSU/Miami/maybe Notre Dame/SDSU (SoCal for recruits) and SMU (Dallas recruits) even the Pittsburgh area typically has some great linebacker types come from there. All hotbed recruiting areas. But win/loss is going to be rough lol. Hope we get some more depth in OL/DL and keep Ott. Mendoza looks like we accidentally found an amazing QB.I love the way this kid plays. Hurricane fans are already thinking we're an easy win rofl.

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Not sure about the bolded part, but it is possible. Notre Dame has an opening next year for one more ACC opponent, and it won't be SMU, because SMU recently added a game with BYU and now has 4 nonconference games scheduled for next year.

It would be a bad idea to add a game at ND to Cal's 2024 schedule, given that the schedule already has games at Auburn and at Florida State, but it is a possible bad idea.

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So a home schedule of

UC Davis
SDSU
Miami
Syracuse
NCState
Stanford.

Anyone want to take a stab at Cal's average attendance next year?

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I'm looking at 8-4 and a solid bowl season. Not a bad way to start in the new digs...

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Just like this year.

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I don't see much upside in scheduling Oregon State as an OOC game. Not wild about Washington State either, especially later in the year -- no more dealing with late season weather in the Palouse!

Both of those teams (especially OSU) are usually better than the national perception of them (even though both were ranked this year). So, relatively tough to beat with relatively little national exposure. That seems like a bad deal to me. Pass.

I think we need to take advantage of what could/should be somewhat weaker depth, top to bottom, in the ACC vs. the Pac-12. The difference is very pronounced this year -- Pac-12 is way tougher. My use of the word "somewhat" is an attempt to factor in some weaker P-12 seasons in recent years.

c
Toward this aim, I hate to say this but I think we should lighten up our OOC schedule. Keep the A-B-C format from our P-12 years, but the 4th game should be a likely win, but versus the least embarrassing-looking opponent we can get away with. I really like the idea of playing Rice -- we should beat them AND we get more recruiting exposure in Texas. (Nice pick there, JB Was a Chieftain!).

Cal has had one of the most difficult schedules in the country many, many times over the last 20+ years. Right now, I'd rather have the extra win than a bit more respect from whichever pundits would actually notice and comment on our schedule.

Who agrees and who disagrees on this point?

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OK, I'll jump in and disagree. I'm tired of this attitude that Cal should try to set up the softest OOC schedule possible in order to make some rinky-dink bowl. If you want me to pay for a ticket, schedule an opponent that's competitive. If Cal wants to get into a bowl game, hire a staff that can recruit and coach well enough to win against those opponents. I'm not saying they should schedule Michigan, Alabama, and Ohio St back-to- back, just reasonable FBS opponents (Big 10 or Big 12) or top FCS teams.

I also think Cal should schedule any former PAC teams except USC, who won't schedule us, anyway. I think this whole transcontinental conference thing is going to fail in the long term (less than 10 years) and Cal (along with other schools) will look to some kind of western conference, so let's not allow those relationships to completely dissolve.

MinotStateBeav said:

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The rankings are not real. SMU plays a degraded conference schedule and Cal/Stanford probably play in the toughest conference atm lol. When SMU plays the big boys week in week out depth is going to hit them in the face. In fairness its hitting us in the face atm lol.

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That's kind of my thought. The leap to playing P5 teams every week is a big one. The schools that just joined the Big 12 are finding that out and I suspect there would be an adjustment period for SMU too.

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I don't see much upside in scheduling Oregon State as an OOC game. Not wild about Washington State either, especially later in the year -- no more dealing with late season weather in the Palouse!

Both of those teams (especially OSU) are usually better than the national perception of them (even though both were ranked this year). So, relatively tough to beat with relatively little national exposure. That seems like a bad deal to me. Pass.

I think we need to take advantage of what could/should be somewhat weaker depth, top to bottom, in the ACC vs. the Pac-12. The difference is very pronounced this year -- Pac-12 is way tougher. My use of the word "somewhat" is an attempt to factor in some weaker P-12 seasons in recent years.

c
Toward this aim, I hate to say this but I think we should lighten up our OOC schedule. Keep the A-B-C format from our P-12 years, but the 4th game should be a likely win, but versus the least embarrassing-looking opponent we can get away with. I really like the idea of playing Rice -- we should beat them AND we get more recruiting exposure in Texas. (Nice pick there, JB Was a Chieftain!).

Cal has had one of the most difficult schedules in the country many, many times over the last 20+ years. Right now, I'd rather have the extra win than a bit more respect from whichever pundits would actually notice and comment on our schedule.

Who agrees and who disagrees on this point?

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OK, I'll jump in and disagree. I'm tired of this attitude that Cal should try to set up the softest OOC schedule possible in order to make some rinky-dink bowl. If you want me to pay for a ticket, schedule an opponent that's competitive. If Cal wants to get into a bowl game, hire a staff that can recruit and coach well enough to win against those opponents. I'm not saying they should schedule Michigan, Alabama, and Ohio St back-to- back, just reasonable FBS opponents (Big 10 or Big 12) or top FCS teams.

I also think Cal should schedule any former PAC teams except USC, who won't schedule us, anyway. I think this whole transcontinental conference thing is going to fail in the long term (less than 10 years) and Cal (along with other schools) will look to some kind of western conference, so let's not allow those relationships to completely dissolve.

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Okay, but can we ramp up to it a bit? The program needs winning records and bowls to start attracting better talent. Once we've got that we can make the schedule tougher. There's an opportunity with a sudden new open space on the schedule to give ourselves a little record boost in the near term.

BYU gave us ice cream.

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youngbear1992 said:

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ACC football schedule for 2024: pic.twitter.com/zOoBtK0cLo

— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) October 30, 2023

FSU, Pitt, Wake Forest on the road

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WF, Pitt, SMU, and Syracuse should be easy wins. Furd and NC State are toss ups, Miami and FSU are likely losses

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We have "easy wins"? How long have you been around?

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youngbear1992 said:

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ACC football schedule for 2024: pic.twitter.com/zOoBtK0cLo

— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) October 30, 2023

FSU, Pitt, Wake Forest on the road

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WF, Pitt, SMU, and Syracuse should be easy wins. Furd and NC State are toss ups, Miami and FSU are likely losses

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We have "easy wins"? How long have you been around?

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Unfortunately, we are the easy win for the other teams.

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youngbear1992 said:

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ACC football schedule for 2024: pic.twitter.com/zOoBtK0cLo

— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) October 30, 2023

FSU, Pitt, Wake Forest on the road

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WF, Pitt, SMU, and Syracuse should be easy wins. Furd and NC State are toss ups, Miami and FSU are likely losses

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"Easy wins"…???
Since when?

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You know it's dire when even I'm getting called out for being overly optimistic

I like that we have the most 'balanced' schedule over the 7-year period of playing everyone 3 times save for stanfurd and SMU. Much easier sledding than our current 9-game Pac-12 gauntlet.

Should probably lead to more frustrating 1-point losses rather than three quarters of competitive play ending in double-digit deficit losses. #progress

From a Virginia sportswriter who covers the ACC, some factoids about how infrequently some of the current ACC members have played football on the west coast:

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Effective next summer, the additions of schools in California and Texas take the ACC beyond the Eastern time zone for the first time, and traveling to the Pacific time zone during the regular season will be a marked departure for the present membership.

Virginia Tech, for example, has never played a regular-season game in the Pacific time zone. Virginia ventured to UCLA, USC and Oregon during the 2010s, but those were the Cavaliers' first western excursions in more than three decades.

Clemson has played as many regular-season games in Tokyo (two) as in the Pacific time zone, and none of those contests was in the last 30 years. The Tigers went to the University of Pacific in 1951, USC in '66 and Tokyo for the Coca-Cola Classic in 1982 and '91, versus Wake Forest and Duke, respectively.

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