Larno said:

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From the East Bay take 92 (continuation of the San Mateo bridge) over the hill to 280 and then south to Page Mill Rd. Drive down to the world of HP and the like and turn left towards the campus. We park just on the edge of campus on one of the streets named for universities and hoof it for about 20 minutes. We have never had traffic before or after the game. We're actually coming from over 100 miles away in the valley and there are theoretically faster ways of getting there but we prefer this no-hassle option.

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From the East Bay, the smoothest and least crowded approach to the farm is through the Dumbarton bridge then onto Willow Road. Avoid University Ave. Same goes if you take the 101, Willow Rd exit NOT University.

Take Willow all the way to Alma (by the railroad tracks), then take a RIGHT on Alma, a small detour (not left towards the stadium), left on Ravenswood to cross over the railroad onto El Camino, then right on Sand Hill Rd, drive past the shopping mall and take a left on Arboretum, park in the grove before Palm street for quick access to the stadium and quick exit the same way you came. Even if you want to loiter in downtown PA , this iwill get you there much faster than trying to exit the campus through Pam Dr.

There are a lot of empty seats at this "sellout."

sycasey said:

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There are a lot of empty seats at this "sellout."

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They ran the same promotion that the UC Berkeley Bears did last week to pack Memorial. Free admission to anyone dressed as an empty seat.

MoragaBear said:

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Larno said:

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From the East Bay take 92 (continuation of the San Mateo bridge) over the hill to 280 and then south to Page Mill Rd. Drive down to the world of HP and the like and turn left towards the campus. We park just on the edge of campus on one of the streets named for universities and hoof it for about 20 minutes. We have never had traffic before or after the game. We're actually coming from over 100 miles away in the valley and there are theoretically faster ways of getting there but we prefer this no-hassle option.

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I took this route for the first time today and it worked great.

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Dumbarton bridge > Willow Rd > R on Alma > L on Ravenswood > L on el Camino > R on Sand Hill > L on Arboretum > park before Palm Dr. is the fastest in and out of Circus Minimus.

added perk: Jonathan Makonnen's family fish and chips foodie truck is on the way there, on Willow Rd
https://www.yelp.ca/biz/jonathans-fish-and-chips-east-palo-alto-2

After they minimized their stadium, the number of tickets offered to Bear fans was greatly reduced. People got out of the habit, and honestly, the anctual game is only an interruption to mindless commercial break stupidity.

Food is also way better although $20 beers is a little ridiculous. The Giants and Cal charge $11. Yet people were buying it.

When Sandy pitched the financing support for the stadium upgrade a component of it that resonated, for some, was the tax deductibility of the seats. Some University supporters opted to do their giving this way and take the seats as an extra. Oftentimes those seats go unused.

Same with basketball.

So, a "sell out" doesn't always equate to butts in the seats.

What to do, what to do?….

PS: the big new donation based ticket price came with free food and drink. A lot of people spend a portion of their time lavishing in the digs rather than screaming about holding while accidentally kneeing the person in front of them in the back, as was the case previously.

Sandy took the product from "football" to…. Something else.

PPS: Larry Scott and the 7pm kickoff also drove people away.

Collectively, tradition was killed and people found it easy to change habits, not even bother going.

concordtom said:

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When Sandy pitched the financing support for the stadium upgrade a component of it that resonated, for some, was the tax deductibility of the seats. Some University supporters opted to do their giving this way and take the seats as an extra. Oftentimes those seats go unused.

Same with basketball.

So, a "sell out" doesn't always equate to butts in the seats.

What to do, what to do?….

PS: the big new donation based ticket price came with free food and drink. A lot of people spend a portion of their time lavishing in the digs rather than screaming about holding while accidentally kneeing the person in front of them in the back, as was the case previously.

Sandy took the product from "football" to…. Something else.

PPS: Larry Scott and the 7pm kickoff also drove people away.

Collectively, tradition was killed and people found it easy to change habits, not even bother going.

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I have a buddy who has his name in the Haas entrance for his donation, has had two chairbacks since then, and has never seen a game. Doesn't live in the area, and doesn't care for basketball. He doesn't give his seats away because "the University needs the money. Buy a ticket if you want to go."

Bobodeluxe said:

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concordtom said:

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When Sandy pitched the financing support for the stadium upgrade a component of it that resonated, for some, was the tax deductibility of the seats. Some University supporters opted to do their giving this way and take the seats as an extra. Oftentimes those seats go unused.

Same with basketball.

So, a "sell out" doesn't always equate to butts in the seats.

What to do, what to do?….

PS: the big new donation based ticket price came with free food and drink. A lot of people spend a portion of their time lavishing in the digs rather than screaming about holding while accidentally kneeing the person in front of them in the back, as was the case previously.

Sandy took the product from "football" to…. Something else.

PPS: Larry Scott and the 7pm kickoff also drove people away.

Collectively, tradition was killed and people found it easy to change habits, not even bother going.

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I have a buddy who has his name in the Haas entrance for his donation, has had two chairbacks since then, and has never seen a game. Doesn't live in the area, and doesn't care for basketball. He doesn't give his seats away because "the University needs the money. Buy a ticket if you want to go."

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Hundreds of others must have buddies like yours, because even going back to when we were having some good seasons, there have always been lots of empty seats there, even for the best games.

oskidunker said:

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Food is also way better although $20 beers is a little ridiculous. The Giants and Cal charge $11. Yet people were buying it.

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Millennials don't remember that there were once One Dollar PBR Pitcher nights at the Chesire Cat. Their recollections probably only go back as far as $6 beers.

Move their seats higher up and let existing season ticket holders move down.

Big C said:

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oskidunker said:

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Food is also way better although $20 beers is a little ridiculous. The Giants and Cal charge $11. Yet people were buying it.

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Millennials don't remember that there were once One Dollar PBR Pitcher nights at the Chesire Cat. Their recollections probably only go back as far as $6 beers.

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Doctor P., my chem TA, raved about dollar pbr night.

Bobodeluxe said:

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Big C said:

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oskidunker said:

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Food is also way better although $20 beers is a little ridiculous. The Giants and Cal charge $11. Yet people were buying it.

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Millennials don't remember that there were once One Dollar PBR Pitcher nights at the Chesire Cat. Their recollections probably only go back as far as $6 beers.

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Doctor P., my chem TA, raved about dollar pbr night.

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the men's bathroom had the equivalent of about one iPhone 6 worth of light,,, which was good, because your feet could feel that the floor wasn't exactly clean and dry and you sure as hell didn't want to see it

(for you young'uns, again, this wasn't $1 for a glass, it was for a pitcher... cheap even back then)

Big C said:

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(for you young'uns, again, this wasn't $1 for a glass, it was for a pitcher... cheap even back then)

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Lived in Madrid in 92.
Many bars would sell you a "mini" for 400 pesetas, roughly $4.
A mini was 1 liter. Gulp!

What year are you talking about, $1 pitchers, 1960?

oskidunker said:

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Move their seats higher up and let existing season ticket holders move down.

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No. Because on the occasion they want to come, they have the right for best seats.

I'll tell you though - what's that economic principle called where if something is expensive demand goes up? Inverse Price elasticity? Like, supercars or diamonds? Well, if your scheme was implemented they might attend more.

Big C said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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concordtom said:

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When Sandy pitched the financing support for the stadium upgrade a component of it that resonated, for some, was the tax deductibility of the seats. Some University supporters opted to do their giving this way and take the seats as an extra. Oftentimes those seats go unused.

Same with basketball.

So, a "sell out" doesn't always equate to butts in the seats.

What to do, what to do?….

PS: the big new donation based ticket price came with free food and drink. A lot of people spend a portion of their time lavishing in the digs rather than screaming about holding while accidentally kneeing the person in front of them in the back, as was the case previously.

Sandy took the product from "football" to…. Something else.

PPS: Larry Scott and the 7pm kickoff also drove people away.

Collectively, tradition was killed and people found it easy to change habits, not even bother going.

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I have a buddy who has his name in the Haas entrance for his donation, has had two chairbacks since then, and has never seen a game. Doesn't live in the area, and doesn't care for basketball. He doesn't give his seats away because "the University needs the money. Buy a ticket if you want to go."

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Hundreds of others must have buddies like yours, because even going back to when we were having some good seasons, there have always been lots of empty seats there, even for the best games.

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I grew up going to games in the 70's. Grandma and grandpa were in the perfect bear backer 50 yard line seats. And the rest of us were in family section, yawn.
We would sneak over to see grandparents. It was often packed!

This is back when there were few bowl games and parking lot tailgating was the norm.

No more tailgating for a cold 7pm start, and tv at home is easier.

"Progress" (and too many losses) have wiped away the cultural traditions.

So, too, admissions. Ten excellent students great grandchildren, none will have attended Cal.

concordtom said:

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Big C said:

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(for you young'uns, again, this wasn't $1 for a glass, it was for a pitcher... cheap even back then)

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Lived in Madrid in 92.
Many bars would sell you a "mini" for 400 pesetas, roughly $4.
A mini was 1 liter. Gulp!

What year are you talking about, $1 pitchers, 1960?

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No. we are talking 1979-1980. Thursday nights at the Cheshire Cat on northside. Fortunately, we didn't have to drive there. Fortunately, we didn't have early classes on Friday... wait, maybe I did, lol.

I like it!

I had a roommate who I, on various occasions, tried to wake up for an 8am class. The third time he told me that the teacher had canceled class I told him he was lying. He smiled and rolled over to go back to sleep.

Is the implication here that furd "bought out" their tickets, then tried to give them away to anyone but explicit Cal fans rather than risk them being bought by actual Cal fans?

bluehenbear said:

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Is the implication here that furd "bought out" their tickets, then tried to give them away to anyone but explicit Cal fans rather than risk them being bought by actual Cal fans?

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Yes.