91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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Not a bad series for them, they don't recruit in the same pools and it can generate some visitor attendance at Stanford they are going to miss with the demise of the Pac-12.

I do think that with our move to the ACC, it makes a ton of sense to focus our OOC games on teams out West, especially in good recruiting areas and good travel destinations. The top 3 that I want are: San Diego State, Hawaii and UNLV. UC Davis as a regular FCS opponent (over Sac State). I don't see much advantage for us playing San Jose State except maybe as a defensive move.

And I know this is still raw, but I really think playing UCLA (even USC) as our OOC "A" game makes a lot of sense. More than UW, Oregon, OSU or WSU.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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The Stan-SJSU games in 2024, 2026, and 2028 are scheduled for late November on the Farm in years when Stanford would be playing at ND in October. That implies Stanford expects their ND series to continue through at least 2028.

Reading between the lines: It looks like there is some negotiation going on with the ACC about whether ND's games vs. Stanford will count toward ND's agreement to play at least 5 ACC opponents in football each season. ACC would probably like to have ND play 6 ACC opponents including Stanford, while ND wants the requirement to be 5 including Stanford. An obvious compromise is that ND plays 6 in some years and 5 in others, possibly with a guarantee that at least 3 in each season are away games for ND so that they are within the ACC's TV contract with ESPN/ABC.

91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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They have replaced the domers game with the little sisters of the poor, preventing us from that easy win, much to the chagrin of many here.

SJSU is now in demand by the ex-P12 teams who no longer have regular games in NorCal, they can now ask for home and aways from UCLA, UW and Oregon. For Furd, having a series with SJSU counterbalances the extra travel burden from moving to the ACC, it's a smart move.

I agree with Calumnus, eventually it makes sense to schedule UCLA, for both programs. No need to schedule Oregon, ever, we could play OSU instead. The Arizonas OOC would not be ideal either because it would have to be in September when it's too hot.

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SJSU is now in demand by the ex-P12 teams who no longer have regular games in NorCal, they can now ask for home and aways from UCLA, UW and Oregon. For Furd, having a series with SJSU counterbalances the extra travel burden from moving to the ACC, it's a smart move.

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It's an easy fill for the extra OOC slot and beats playing Fresno.

91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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91Cal: Stanford does play Notre Dame in October of 2024 - I've no idea if the series extends beyond that or not.

BearSD said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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The Stan-SJSU games in 2024, 2026, and 2028 are scheduled for late November on the Farm in years when Stanford would be playing at ND in October. That implies Stanford expects their ND series to continue through at least 2028.

Reading between the lines: It looks like there is some negotiation going on with the ACC about whether ND's games vs. Stanford will count toward ND's agreement to play at least 5 ACC opponents in football each season. ACC would probably like to have ND play 6 ACC opponents including Stanford, while ND wants the requirement to be 5 including Stanford. An obvious compromise is that ND plays 6 in some years and 5 in others, possibly with a guarantee that at least 3 in each season are away games for ND so that they are within the ACC's TV contract with ESPN/ABC.

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I think it is a done deal that Stanford has their games with ND ongoing. They are still negotiating their NBC contract and that is probably causing some delay in future schedules. I had heard that in a regular rotation with Stanford (on of every two or three years) the ND game would count as they ACC allotment but otherwise it was extra.

calumnus said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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Not a bad series for them, they don't recruit in the same pools and it can generate some visitor attendance at Stanford they are going to miss with the demise of the Pac-12.

I do think that with our move to the ACC, it makes a ton of sense to focus our OOC games on teams out West, especially in good recruiting areas and good travel destinations. The top 3 that I want are: San Diego State, Hawaii and UNLV. UC Davis as a regular FCS opponent (over Sac State). I don't see much advantage for us playing San Jose State except maybe as a defensive move.

And I know this is still raw, but I really think playing UCLA (even USC) as our OOC "A" game makes a lot of sense. More than UW, Oregon, OSU or WSU.

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I agree that Hawaii, UNLV and SDSU are good regular games with Davis as a regular opponent as well. That is a nice travel destination / easy to get to rotation. None of those will get us any rating points but the travel would be nice. Davis each year at Cal may not be too palatable for them but we had a good showing here last time they played (44k) so for a second division team that was pretty good. Not sure if that holds up each year.

Oski87 said:

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calumnus said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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Not a bad series for them, they don't recruit in the same pools and it can generate some visitor attendance at Stanford they are going to miss with the demise of the Pac-12.

I do think that with our move to the ACC, it makes a ton of sense to focus our OOC games on teams out West, especially in good recruiting areas and good travel destinations. The top 3 that I want are: San Diego State, Hawaii and UNLV. UC Davis as a regular FCS opponent (over Sac State). I don't see much advantage for us playing San Jose State except maybe as a defensive move.

And I know this is still raw, but I really think playing UCLA (even USC) as our OOC "A" game makes a lot of sense. More than UW, Oregon, OSU or WSU.

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I agree that Hawaii, UNLV and SDSU are good regular games with Davis as a regular opponent as well. That is a nice travel destination / easy to get to rotation. None of those will get us any rating points but the travel would be nice. Davis each year at Cal may not be too palatable for them but we had a good showing here last time they played (44k) so for a second division team that was pretty good. Not sure if that holds up each year.

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Cal football fans might bore of Davis every year but the idea is to make it part of a beginning of the school year tradition/party for the two UC student bodies and alumni bases. Lots of students and alums.

Also, my idea is with Tim Plough as their new coach, with strong ties between the staffs, UC Davis can be Cal's Minor league team. It can be where we develop players (especially linemen projects). Instead of walking on at Cal and sitting on the bench, play at Davis then if you are good enough, transfer to Cal. In either case you will get a great degree. Easy transfer of credit. We can recruit together. Similarly, guys who are not seeing the field at Cal can transfer to Davis get to play and still get a great degree. Or a great grad degree. For the players, the annual game would be a big reunion among friends. It would benefit both programs and be good for the players.

The other benefit is if we treat UC Davis as our brothers, if we have a lot of players who have played for both schools, if we have a tradition of Davis students and alums attending a game at CMS, we can expand our fan base to UC Davis alums (equally large) and east to Sacramento.

calumnus said:

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Oski87 said:

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calumnus said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

---

Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

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According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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Not a bad series for them, they don't recruit in the same pools and it can generate some visitor attendance at Stanford they are going to miss with the demise of the Pac-12.

I do think that with our move to the ACC, it makes a ton of sense to focus our OOC games on teams out West, especially in good recruiting areas and good travel destinations. The top 3 that I want are: San Diego State, Hawaii and UNLV. UC Davis as a regular FCS opponent (over Sac State). I don't see much advantage for us playing San Jose State except maybe as a defensive move.

And I know this is still raw, but I really think playing UCLA (even USC) as our OOC "A" game makes a lot of sense. More than UW, Oregon, OSU or WSU.

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I agree that Hawaii, UNLV and SDSU are good regular games with Davis as a regular opponent as well. That is a nice travel destination / easy to get to rotation. None of those will get us any rating points but the travel would be nice. Davis each year at Cal may not be too palatable for them but we had a good showing here last time they played (44k) so for a second division team that was pretty good. Not sure if that holds up each year.

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Cal football fans might bore of Davis every year but the idea is to make it part of a beginning of the school year tradition/party for the two UC student bodies and alumni bases. Lots of students and alums.

Also, my idea is UC Davis can be Cal's Minor league team. It can be where we develop players. Instead of walking on at Cal and sitting on the bench, play at Davis then if you are good enough, transfer to Cal. In either case you will get a great degree. We can recruit together. Similarly, guys who are not seeing the field at Cal can transfer to Davis get to play and still get a great degree. Or a great grad degree. For the players, the annual game would be a big reunion among friends.

The other benefit is if we treat UC Davis as our brothers we can expand our fan base to UC Davis alums and east to Sacramento.

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Cool. Just like The UC Berkeley Bears seem to be ucla's feeder team.

Bobodeluxe said:

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calumnus said:

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Oski87 said:

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calumnus said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

---

Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

---

According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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Not a bad series for them, they don't recruit in the same pools and it can generate some visitor attendance at Stanford they are going to miss with the demise of the Pac-12.

I do think that with our move to the ACC, it makes a ton of sense to focus our OOC games on teams out West, especially in good recruiting areas and good travel destinations. The top 3 that I want are: San Diego State, Hawaii and UNLV. UC Davis as a regular FCS opponent (over Sac State). I don't see much advantage for us playing San Jose State except maybe as a defensive move.

And I know this is still raw, but I really think playing UCLA (even USC) as our OOC "A" game makes a lot of sense. More than UW, Oregon, OSU or WSU.

---

I agree that Hawaii, UNLV and SDSU are good regular games with Davis as a regular opponent as well. That is a nice travel destination / easy to get to rotation. None of those will get us any rating points but the travel would be nice. Davis each year at Cal may not be too palatable for them but we had a good showing here last time they played (44k) so for a second division team that was pretty good. Not sure if that holds up each year.

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Cal football fans might bore of Davis every year but the idea is to make it part of a beginning of the school year tradition/party for the two UC student bodies and alumni bases. Lots of students and alums.

Also, my idea is UC Davis can be Cal's Minor league team. It can be where we develop players. Instead of walking on at Cal and sitting on the bench, play at Davis then if you are good enough, transfer to Cal. In either case you will get a great degree. We can recruit together. Similarly, guys who are not seeing the field at Cal can transfer to Davis get to play and still get a great degree. Or a great grad degree. For the players, the annual game would be a big reunion among friends.

The other benefit is if we treat UC Davis as our brothers we can expand our fan base to UC Davis alums and east to Sacramento.

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Cool. Just like The UC Berkeley Bears seem to be ucla's feeder team.

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Lol, true, and that happened despite the two UCs being rivals and competitors, just because Cal had bad offenses and the perception is UCLA is big time (or at least has good offense). What I am proposing is an active cultivation of UC Davis as the acknowledged junior partner. Explicitly combining the programs and fan bases, with a well attended game against an FCS opponent at CMS at the beginning of every school year.

Bobodeluxe said:

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calumnus said:

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Oski87 said:

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calumnus said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

---

Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

---

According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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Not a bad series for them, they don't recruit in the same pools and it can generate some visitor attendance at Stanford they are going to miss with the demise of the Pac-12.

I do think that with our move to the ACC, it makes a ton of sense to focus our OOC games on teams out West, especially in good recruiting areas and good travel destinations. The top 3 that I want are: San Diego State, Hawaii and UNLV. UC Davis as a regular FCS opponent (over Sac State). I don't see much advantage for us playing San Jose State except maybe as a defensive move.

And I know this is still raw, but I really think playing UCLA (even USC) as our OOC "A" game makes a lot of sense. More than UW, Oregon, OSU or WSU.

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I agree that Hawaii, UNLV and SDSU are good regular games with Davis as a regular opponent as well. That is a nice travel destination / easy to get to rotation. None of those will get us any rating points but the travel would be nice. Davis each year at Cal may not be too palatable for them but we had a good showing here last time they played (44k) so for a second division team that was pretty good. Not sure if that holds up each year.

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Cal football fans might bore of Davis every year but the idea is to make it part of a beginning of the school year tradition/party for the two UC student bodies and alumni bases. Lots of students and alums.

Also, my idea is UC Davis can be Cal's Minor league team. It can be where we develop players. Instead of walking on at Cal and sitting on the bench, play at Davis then if you are good enough, transfer to Cal. In either case you will get a great degree. We can recruit together. Similarly, guys who are not seeing the field at Cal can transfer to Davis get to play and still get a great degree. Or a great grad degree. For the players, the annual game would be a big reunion among friends.

The other benefit is if we treat UC Davis as our brothers we can expand our fan base to UC Davis alums and east to Sacramento.

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Cool. Just like The UC Berkeley Bears seem to be ucla's feeder team.

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Given that they are equals academically, coupled with the exposure they will get being in the B1G, this is a distinct possibility.

That said, if we truly can up our NIL game and get a chancellor who can improve the perception of UC Berkeley, this doesn't always have to be the case.

I think Ucla would take offense to being called equal to Davis, but you're probably right.

Econ141 said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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calumnus said:

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Oski87 said:

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calumnus said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

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Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

---

According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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Not a bad series for them, they don't recruit in the same pools and it can generate some visitor attendance at Stanford they are going to miss with the demise of the Pac-12.

I do think that with our move to the ACC, it makes a ton of sense to focus our OOC games on teams out West, especially in good recruiting areas and good travel destinations. The top 3 that I want are: San Diego State, Hawaii and UNLV. UC Davis as a regular FCS opponent (over Sac State). I don't see much advantage for us playing San Jose State except maybe as a defensive move.

And I know this is still raw, but I really think playing UCLA (even USC) as our OOC "A" game makes a lot of sense. More than UW, Oregon, OSU or WSU.

---

I agree that Hawaii, UNLV and SDSU are good regular games with Davis as a regular opponent as well. That is a nice travel destination / easy to get to rotation. None of those will get us any rating points but the travel would be nice. Davis each year at Cal may not be too palatable for them but we had a good showing here last time they played (44k) so for a second division team that was pretty good. Not sure if that holds up each year.

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Cal football fans might bore of Davis every year but the idea is to make it part of a beginning of the school year tradition/party for the two UC student bodies and alumni bases. Lots of students and alums.

Also, my idea is UC Davis can be Cal's Minor league team. It can be where we develop players. Instead of walking on at Cal and sitting on the bench, play at Davis then if you are good enough, transfer to Cal. In either case you will get a great degree. We can recruit together. Similarly, guys who are not seeing the field at Cal can transfer to Davis get to play and still get a great degree. Or a great grad degree. For the players, the annual game would be a big reunion among friends.

The other benefit is if we treat UC Davis as our brothers we can expand our fan base to UC Davis alums and east to Sacramento.

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Cool. Just like The UC Berkeley Bears seem to be ucla's feeder team.

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Given that they are equals academically, coupled with the exposure they will get being in the B1G, this is a distinct possibility.

That said, if we truly can up our NIL game and get a chancellor who can improve the perception of UC Berkeley, this doesn't always have to be the case.

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Cal will get a lot of TV exposure on ESPN in the ACC as one of their few West Coast schools if we can step up our game. It will be great for football and basketball. The big difference is the media payout, but that will more impact the Olympic sports at both schools.

calumnus said:

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Econ141 said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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calumnus said:

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Oski87 said:

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calumnus said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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91Cal said:

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BearSD said:

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philbert said:

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It's much better from a fan perspective to have the BG on the traditional weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Agree. Both schools have always requested that the Big Game be scheduled for the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The ACC is accommodating this.

Also, Stanford has made it work by scheduling SJSU for the last week in years when they don't play ND in November, and the ACC is apparently going to schedule Cal-SMU for that weekend every year.

---

Two notes:
1. Iirc Shaw wanted to deemphasize the BG and the Cal rivalry. He is to thank for killing several joint Cal-Stanford engagements during the week like the Guardsmen luncheon. Thank goodness he had fallen out of favor/his influence had waned. In his arrogant world, Stanford had no need for Cal anymore.

2. I had been under the impression that the Stanford-ND series ended this season or next and had not been renewed. Is that accurate or has it been extended?

---

According to fbschedules.com, Stanford doesn't have Notre Dame scheduled after the 2024 season. Interestingly, they have 6 games against San Jose State through 2035. 3 are at Stanford and 3 are at San Jose State.

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Not a bad series for them, they don't recruit in the same pools and it can generate some visitor attendance at Stanford they are going to miss with the demise of the Pac-12.

I do think that with our move to the ACC, it makes a ton of sense to focus our OOC games on teams out West, especially in good recruiting areas and good travel destinations. The top 3 that I want are: San Diego State, Hawaii and UNLV. UC Davis as a regular FCS opponent (over Sac State). I don't see much advantage for us playing San Jose State except maybe as a defensive move.

And I know this is still raw, but I really think playing UCLA (even USC) as our OOC "A" game makes a lot of sense. More than UW, Oregon, OSU or WSU.

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I agree that Hawaii, UNLV and SDSU are good regular games with Davis as a regular opponent as well. That is a nice travel destination / easy to get to rotation. None of those will get us any rating points but the travel would be nice. Davis each year at Cal may not be too palatable for them but we had a good showing here last time they played (44k) so for a second division team that was pretty good. Not sure if that holds up each year.

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Cal football fans might bore of Davis every year but the idea is to make it part of a beginning of the school year tradition/party for the two UC student bodies and alumni bases. Lots of students and alums.

Also, my idea is UC Davis can be Cal's Minor league team. It can be where we develop players. Instead of walking on at Cal and sitting on the bench, play at Davis then if you are good enough, transfer to Cal. In either case you will get a great degree. We can recruit together. Similarly, guys who are not seeing the field at Cal can transfer to Davis get to play and still get a great degree. Or a great grad degree. For the players, the annual game would be a big reunion among friends.

The other benefit is if we treat UC Davis as our brothers we can expand our fan base to UC Davis alums and east to Sacramento.

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Cool. Just like The UC Berkeley Bears seem to be ucla's feeder team.

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Given that they are equals academically, coupled with the exposure they will get being in the B1G, this is a distinct possibility.

That said, if we truly can up our NIL game and get a chancellor who can improve the perception of UC Berkeley, this doesn't always have to be the case.

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Cal will get a lot of TV exposure on ESPN in the ACC as one of their few West Coast schools if we can step up our game. It will be great for football and basketball. The big difference is the media payout, but that will more impact the Olympic sports at both schools.

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A big step for Cal this fall is to beat Auburn. We beat them and go 4-0 in the non-conference games, and then win enough games in the conference to keep us relevant (5 or more), that will be a great first year for us. We need to come out strong. I think we can beat Auburn but they will have a very good defense again. Our new offense needs to work. I hope the Cal fans travel there as well. The FSU game two weeks later will probably diminish our attendance for both games - I was hoping that would be later in the year. But a good showing will go a long way to quelling the Cal does not care about football questions and help us with ESPN.