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Please explain and document why teams from the former Mountain West conference could not be invited to the FBS playoffs. That's absurd. There will be twelve or thirteen teams that will be in those playoffs and thus I believe all of the FBS conference champions will get at least one team in. since the number of FBS teams that will be invited into the playoffs will be more than the number of FBS conferences. Thus, all FBS conferences will get at least one team invited into the playoffs. A new Pac 9 conference, if the top teams are really strong, could get two invites.

Please show me where I am wrong on this and not just based upon an opinion that is not at all substantiated. Thanks.

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How about you showing WHY former Mountain West Conference teams should expect invitations to the CFP?

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wifeisafurd said:

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You either understand the economics of college football or you keep blabbing about the same idea that don't work.

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I read this in Harvey Dent's voice and it worked perfectly.

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which side?

Show me the rule that only one G5 team gets into the football playoffs, when thirteen or twelve teams will be selected to do so.

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Please explain and document why teams from the former Mountain West conference could not be invited to the FBS playoffs. That's absurd. There will be twelve or thirteen teams that will be in those playoffs and thus I believe all of the FBS conference champions will get at least one team in. since the number of FBS teams that will be invited into the playoffs will be more than the number of FBS conferences. Thus, all FBS conferences will get at least one team invited into the playoffs. A new Pac 9 conference, if the top teams are really strong, could get two invites.

Please show me where I am wrong on this and not just based upon an opinion that is not at all substantiated. Thanks.

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They get whatever number of invites the Mountain West gets because you essentially have a Mountain West level group of teams. Even if Cal got good now, the economics without material TV money will in the long run force all teams, including Cal, to end-up at a Mountain West level. You are just not getting this. Again, that is why all the Pac schools were desperate to get into a major conference.

This new expansion will give teams from the American, Conference USA, Sun Belt, MAC, and the Mountain West into the playoffs, a shot they didn't have. Expect the seed for the Group of Five to be No. 12 nearly every year. At least someone on the five conferences will get a seat at the table to take on the fifth seed.

As of right now, ESPN' gives Boise State the best chance at earning a playoff bid at 16.4% with UTSA out of the American as the next closest team with a 15.6% chance going to the College Football Playoff. Everyone else is pretty negligible. So we will see. A 15.6% to get a team into the playoffs is not great odds. The outlier is the Pac 2 for at least 2 years, and we shall see this season exactly how good are WSU and OSU are, even if one is entitled of them is grandfathered in. The Pac 2 team is destroyed on national TV, that pretty much seals the fate of the Pac 9. My sense is it will become apparent that OSU and WSU have taken a step back. In the long run, you are looking at a consolidation of conferences where only a select number of teams are eligible to play in the playoffs, making ESPN and Fox quite happy.

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Show me the rule that only one G5 team gets into the football playoffs, when thirteen or twelve teams will be selected to do so.

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13 or 12? So you don't even know how many teams are in the playoff, yet you're wanting someone to explain the intricacies of the selection process? Go get even the most basic understanding of what you're rambling about before you come here wanting everyone to give you a seminar.

The G5 conferences are guaranteed one playoff spot. At most, perhaps two will get in, but usually only one. Out of FIVE CONFERENCES. Why is that? Look up the rules on the selection process, then look at prior years rankings of all the G5 teams, then you can easily assemble what the playoff would have been any prior year.

Either you are absolutely INCREDIBLY uninformed on this topic you love to ramble about so much, or you are just a troll. Again, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY TEAMS ARE IN THE PLAYOFF. My god man, learn even the basics before wasting so much bandwidth.

We both agree there are multiple teams that will get into the FBS playoffs. Originally, I believe it was announced there would be thirteen slots. Now it seems to be down to twelve.

You, as well as me, are unclear as to how those slots will be allocated. If you know the rule, then why don't you publish it, with appropriate backup, so that everyone, including me, can see if it is supportable. In the absense of any clear rule out there, I think it makes the most sense that all FBS conference champions would first be allocated the twelve or thirteen available slots, first being allocated to all of the FBS conference champs, with any leftovers going to the best conference runner up teams from the FBS teams.

Please justify whatever rule youi come up with. I have tried to do so using what I think makes sense without the benefit of seeing any written rule on point. Thanks.

New FBS playoff format:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40204947/how-does-college-football-playoff-work-rules-dates-format-selection-committee-voting

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The five highest-ranked conference champions and the next seven highest-ranked teams will earn a spot in the 12-team bracket. There is no limit to how many teams from one conference can qualify. The rules also don't guarantee spots for certain conferences. The champions of the Big 12, SEC, ACC and Big Ten will almost certainly routinely qualify, though, along with the highest-ranked champion from the Mountain West, American Athletic Conference, Sun Belt, Mid-American Conference or Conference USA.

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Automatic bids go to the five highest-ranked conference champions. The rest are at-large bids based on the committee's rankings. You can bet a lot of money that in any given year, four of the five highest ranked champs will be from the four major conferences. That means that one of the conference champions from the mid-major conferences will get in.

I've looked at the last 10 years of FBS, and in almost every year the top-ranked G5 team (based on the BCS or playoff rankings) was from the American conference, not the Mountain West. The MWC would have qualified ONCE under this system: Boise State in 2014. The only time two G5 teams might have made it was in the Covid year (2020), thanks to the Pac-12 playing half a schedule and being generally a mess.

So no, from a competitive standpoint Cal would not be better off in that league.

I loved many aspects of my visit to Boston, inclding visting Fenway and seeing a picture or statue of Cal's Jackie Jensen. But overall, it's not as popular a tourist destination as Las Vegas.

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New FBS playoff format:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40204947/how-does-college-football-playoff-work-rules-dates-format-selection-committee-voting

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The five highest-ranked conference champions and the next seven highest-ranked teams will earn a spot in the 12-team bracket. There is no limit to how many teams from one conference can qualify. The rules also don't guarantee spots for certain conferences. The champions of the Big 12, SEC, ACC and Big Ten will almost certainly routinely qualify, though, along with the highest-ranked champion from the Mountain West, American Athletic Conference, Sun Belt, Mid-American Conference or Conference USA.

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Automatic bids go to the five highest-ranked conference champions. The rest are at-large bids based on the committee's rankings. You can bet a lot of money that in any given year, four of the five highest ranked champs will be from the four major conferences. That means that one of the conference champions from the mid-major conferences will get in.

I've looked at the last 10 years of FBS, and in almost every year the top-ranked G5 team (based on the BCS or playoff rankings) was from the American conference, not the Mountain West. The MWC would have qualified ONCE under this system: Boise State in 2014. The only time two G5 teams might have made it was in the Covid year (2020), thanks to the Pac-12 playing half a schedule and being generally a mess.

So no, from a competitive standpoint Cal would not be better off in that league.

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Yup. And the REASON that the American conference is going to have the best shoot is really just geography (it is one of the challenges the pac12 had in BBall). Those OOC games are costly. Flying across the country (or paying for toledo to fly here) makes little sense for either school. So Cal would get like a couple of games like Davis and then one P4. But if they were good (see boise) then they wouldn't get a GOOD p4. They might see those schools pull out. And so Cal would need to do such an incredible run to MAYBE get into the playoff.

Moreover, the G5 are locked into the current payout. I mean 1.6 million isn't BAD but it is chump change. Meanwhile the P4 will share all the incremental upside in the new contract.

Again, if you are doing this you shouldn't You should just go Big Sky-like and PLay Davis and Cal Poly but that is for another thread and at this point stupid because the powers that be have made a choice.

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New FBS playoff format:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40204947/how-does-college-football-playoff-work-rules-dates-format-selection-committee-voting

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The five highest-ranked conference champions and the next seven highest-ranked teams will earn a spot in the 12-team bracket. There is no limit to how many teams from one conference can qualify. The rules also don't guarantee spots for certain conferences. The champions of the Big 12, SEC, ACC and Big Ten will almost certainly routinely qualify, though, along with the highest-ranked champion from the Mountain West, American Athletic Conference, Sun Belt, Mid-American Conference or Conference USA.

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Automatic bids go to the five highest-ranked conference champions. The rest are at-large bids based on the committee's rankings. You can bet a lot of money that in any given year, four of the five highest ranked champs will be from the four major conferences. That means that one of the conference champions from the mid-major conferences will get in.

I've looked at the last 10 years of FBS, and in almost every year the top-ranked G5 team (based on the BCS or playoff rankings) was from the American conference, not the Mountain West. The MWC would have qualified ONCE under this system: Boise State in 2014. The only time two G5 teams might have made it was in the Covid year (2020), thanks to the Pac-12 playing half a schedule and being generally a mess.

So no, from a competitive standpoint Cal would not be better off in that league.

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Yup. And the REASON that the American conference is going to have the best shoot is really just geography (it is one of the challenges the pac12 had in BBall). Those OOC games are costly. Flying across the country (or paying for toledo to fly here) makes little sense for either school. So Cal would get like a couple of games like Davis and then one P4. But if they were good (see boise) then they wouldn't get a GOOD p4. They might see those schools pull out. And so Cal would need to do such an incredible run to MAYBE get into the playoff.

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It is worth noting that some of the stronger programs in the American (Cincinnati, UCF, Houston, SMU) were recently gobbled up by the Big 12 and ACC, so their champions might not be as strong going forward. Regardless, it does pretty much mean you have to post an undefeated or at minimum 1-loss season to make it out of a G5 league, and even then you might not get there if another G5 team does it too.

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Econ141 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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You either understand the economics of college football or you keep blabbing about the same idea that don't work.

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I read this in Harvey Dent's voice and it worked perfectly.

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which side?

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Gobears49 said:

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I loved many aspects of my visit to Boston, inclding visting Fenway and seeing a picture or statue of Cal's Jackie Jensen. But overall, it's not as popular a tourist destination as Las Vegas.

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We are in the ACC, we have signed our GORs away. It is a done deal. It is going to be exciting, you might as well embrace it.

However, for a lot of the reasons you mention I do think it makes sense to play our out of conference games against West Coast teams,especially ones that are good trips or good recruiting areas. So for me:
1. San Diego State
2. UNLV
3. Hawaii
4. UCLA
5. Nevada
6. Washington

And I would have UC Davis be our annual FCS game and tradition with UC Davis developed as Cal's B team.

If you really like going to Vegas root for Cal to make the Vegas Bowl this year.

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Gobears49 said:

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I loved many aspects of my visit to Boston, inclding visting Fenway and seeing a picture or statue of Cal's Jackie Jensen. But overall, it's not as popular a tourist destination as Las Vegas.

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We are in the ACC, we have signed our GORs away. It is a done deal. It is going to be exciting, you might as well embrace it.

However, for a lot of the reasons you mention I do think it makes sense to play our out of conference games against West Coast teams,especially ones that are good trips or good recruiting areas. So for me:
1. San Diego State
2. UNLV
3. Hawaii
4. UCLA
5. Nevada
6. Washington

And I would have UC Davis be our annual FCS game and tradition with UC Davis developed as Cal's B team.

If you really like going to Vegas root for Cal to make the Vegas Bowl this year.

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With only 8 conference games in the ACC, it would make sense to fill the rest of our schedule with west coast games, as much as possible.

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wifeisafurd said:

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You either understand the economics of college football or you keep blabbing about the same idea that don't work.

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I read this in Harvey Dent's voice and it worked perfectly.

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Thanks. That really was some great back and forth by Wayne and Eckhart.

Gobears49 said:

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We both agree there are multiple teams that will get into the FBS playoffs. Originally, I believe it was announced there would be thirteen slots. Now it seems to be down to twelve.

You, as well as me, are unclear as to how those slots will be allocated. If you know the rule, then why don't you publish it, with appropriate backup, so that everyone, including me, can see if it is supportable. In the absense of any clear rule out there, I think it makes the most sense that all FBS conference champions would first be allocated the twelve or thirteen available slots, first being allocated to all of the FBS conference champs, with any leftovers going to the best conference runner up teams from the FBS teams.

Please justify whatever rule youi come up with. I have tried to do so using what I think makes sense without the benefit of seeing any written rule on point. Thanks.

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No, I am not unclear on anything. The playoff is the 5 highest rated conference champs, plus 7 at large bids. You have said you believed the conference champ of each FBS conference will get in. No, never, not by a long shot. If you disagree then you (in complete sincerity) understand nothing about college football today.

Moreover, AGAIN, you have yet to tackle the actual issue: the league you propose will make no money. So, please answer the question: Why do you want Cal in a league where it will be completely uncompetitive with even the Big XII and with tremendously reduced playoff access? Why do you want Cal immediately relegated to a G5 league?

Hey man, JUST NO!!!!!!

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calumnus said:

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Gobears49 said:

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I loved many aspects of my visit to Boston, inclding visting Fenway and seeing a picture or statue of Cal's Jackie Jensen. But overall, it's not as popular a tourist destination as Las Vegas.

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We are in the ACC, we have signed our GORs away. It is a done deal. It is going to be exciting, you might as well embrace it.

However, for a lot of the reasons you mention I do think it makes sense to play our out of conference games against West Coast teams,especially ones that are good trips or good recruiting areas. So for me:
1. San Diego State
2. UNLV
3. Hawaii
4. UCLA
5. Nevada
6. Washington

And I would have UC Davis be our annual FCS game and tradition with UC Davis developed as Cal's B team.

If you really like going to Vegas root for Cal to make the Vegas Bowl this year.

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With only 8 conference games in the ACC, it would make sense to fill the rest of our schedule with west coast games, as much as possible.

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And with A-B-C-D OOC scheduling I think we need to consider playing UW and UCLA regularly (over Oregon and USC). Maybe the Four Corners schools too.

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Hey man, JUST NO!!!!!!

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https://www.wsj.com/

You Won't Believe College Football This Season

Conference realignment, no more Coach Saban and Coach Harbaugh, and an expanded playoff. The game has never been in a more turbulent state.

Lots of great comments to the article, most disdainful. Here's mine



As a long time Cal fan ("Go Bears"), and a former yell leader there, I have been pitching for the creation of a new conference for Cal consisting of Cal, Stanford, Oregon St., Washington St, Boise St., ,,Fresno St., San Jose St., San Diego St., and UNLV -- the Pac 9.

Allows the avoidance of ridiculous trips to ACC teams for football and basketball games (not known if a 9 a.m. west coast departure for a fan will allow him to change planes going east to reach all ACC destinations that require a plane change by midnight eastern time). Allows a game every other year, on a home and away basis, versus UNLV, played at the Raiders stadium, with all of the great activities Las Vegas offers, plus a game every other year in touristy San Diego. Also allows four non conference football games a year to fill out the schedule against quality opponents across the country. (perhaps another game against Notre Dame?).

And, I have heard talk that the new national playoff schedule will soon be expanded to thirteen teams from twelve, allowing the new Pac 9, as a major conference, to easily secure at least one national playoff spot, something tha old Pac 12 never enjoyed.

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Can someone please provide a summary or synopsis of the relevant parts of the article. I refuse to subscribe to every publication that might have some article that I might find interesting. I am retired and must watch every penny. I spend my budgeted sports money on Cal FB tickets and parking and other related expenses.

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I have been pitching for the creation of a new conference for Cal consisting of Cal, Stanford, Oregon St., Washington St, Boise St., ,,Fresno St., San Jose St., San Diego St., and UNLV -- the Pac 9.

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In a word, NO.

The champion other than the Big Four conference champions could conceivably be ranked in the top four teams in the country and thus get a first round playoff bye under the new, somewhat complex, rules. Somewhat complicated to explain so I won't bother to do so.
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Gobears49 said:

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The champion other than the Big Four conference champions could conceivably be ranked in the top four teams in the country and thus get a first round playoff bye under the new, somewhat complex, rules. Somewhat complicated to explain so I won't bother to do so.
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Could, maybe, once a blue moon. What's your point? How would your proposed conference stack up against the other conferences financially?

Gobears49 said:

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The champion other than the Big Four conference champions could conceivably be ranked in the top four teams in the country and thus get a first round playoff bye under the new, somewhat complex, rules. Somewhat complicated to explain so I won't bother to do so.
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In the last 10 years, it would have happened exactly once: 2021, when Cincinnati ran the table in the American and was ranked 4th going into the playoff. (Cincinnati is now in the Big 12.)

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I disagree with everything you stated.

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I read a few month ago a comment from an ACC fan that 5,000 or so people from his ACC alma mater were planning to attend a scheduled football game next season at UNLV but only 1,000 or so were planning to a attend a Cal game at Cal the same year. Shows what an attraction Vegas is in drawing fans from around the country.

Going to a game at a location that is fun is a huge draw in getting fans to make it a travel destination when your team plays them. I had a whale of a time visiting Austin when Cal played Texas ten or so years ago. Even made it to four BBQ joints there in one day. Also went to some nice wineries in the foothills about an hour outside of the city. All in all, had a great time there and got to see my Bears win a thriller vs. Texas.

Here's a list of the top travel destinations in the U.S. Las Vegas is clearly #1. Cal fans would love to visit Vegas every few years or so for its fun attributes while watching there Bears play. UNLV plays in the Raiders stadium, another reason to attend a Cal game there. https://wallethub.com/edu/most-fun-cities-in-the-us/23455

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Must be why UNLV has that monster budget, and draws such massive crowds of 23,600.

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I read a few month ago a comment from an ACC fan that 5,000 or so people from his ACC alma mater were planning to attend a scheduled football game next season at UNLV but only 1,000 or so were planning to a attend a Cal game at Cal the same year. Shows what an attraction Vegas is in drawing fans from around the country.

Going to a game at a location that is fun is a huge draw in getting fans to make it a travel destination when your team plays them. I had a whale of a time visiting Austin when Cal played Texas ten or so years ago. Even made it to four BBQ joints there in one day. Also went to some nice wineries in the foothills about an hour outside of the city. All in all, had a great time there and got to see my Bears win a thriller vs. Texas.

Here's a list of the top travel destinations in the U.S. Las Vegas is clearly #1. Cal fans would love to visit Vegas every few years or so for its fun attributes while watching there Bears play. UNLV plays in the Raiders stadium, another reason to attend a Cal game there. https://wallethub.com/edu/most-fun-cities-in-the-us/23455

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Must be why UNLV has that monster budget, and draws such massive crowds of 23,600.

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Vegas sports is not about the local teams, but the crowds who will visit.

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LunchTime said:

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I read a few month ago a comment from an ACC fan that 5,000 or so people from his ACC alma mater were planning to attend a scheduled football game next season at UNLV but only 1,000 or so were planning to a attend a Cal game at Cal the same year. Shows what an attraction Vegas is in drawing fans from around the country.

Going to a game at a location that is fun is a huge draw in getting fans to make it a travel destination when your team plays them. I had a whale of a time visiting Austin when Cal played Texas ten or so years ago. Even made it to four BBQ joints there in one day. Also went to some nice wineries in the foothills about an hour outside of the city. All in all, had a great time there and got to see my Bears win a thriller vs. Texas.

Here's a list of the top travel destinations in the U.S. Las Vegas is clearly #1. Cal fans would love to visit Vegas every few years or so for its fun attributes while watching there Bears play. UNLV plays in the Raiders stadium, another reason to attend a Cal game there. https://wallethub.com/edu/most-fun-cities-in-the-us/23455

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Must be why UNLV has that monster budget, and draws such massive crowds of 23,600.

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Except for the Knights. But there is a ton of truth to that in regards to the A's (and Raiders). The other thing to keep in mind is that people only have a finite amount of disposable income, and since LV is small, it's not going to be enough to support all the local teams. Can't see UNLV ever getting to a place where they out compete other local teams for that $$$.

I also just noticed that our @UNLV game has disappeared. So we apparently get them twice at home with no games in LV.

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I read a few month ago a comment from an ACC fan that 5,000 or so people from his ACC alma mater were planning to attend a scheduled football game next season at UNLV but only 1,000 or so were planning to a attend a Cal game at Cal the same year. Shows what an attraction Vegas is in drawing fans from around the country.

Going to a game at a location that is fun is a huge draw in getting fans to make it a travel destination when your team plays them. I had a whale of a time visiting Austin when Cal played Texas ten or so years ago. Even made it to four BBQ joints there in one day. Also went to some nice wineries in the foothills about an hour outside of the city. All in all, had a great time there and got to see my Bears win a thriller vs. Texas.

Here's a list of the top travel destinations in the U.S. Las Vegas is clearly #1. Cal fans would love to visit Vegas every few years or so for its fun attributes while watching there Bears play. UNLV plays in the Raiders stadium, another reason to attend a Cal game there. https://wallethub.com/edu/most-fun-cities-in-the-us/23455

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Must be why UNLV has that monster budget, and draws such massive crowds of 23,600.

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Except for the Knights. But there is a ton of truth to that in regards to the A's (and Raiders). The other thing to keep in mind is that people only have a finite amount of disposable income, and since LV is small, it's not going to be enough to support all the local teams. Can't see UNLV ever getting tons place where they out compete other local teams for that $$$.

I also just noticed that our @UNLV game has disappeared. So we apparently get them twice at home with no games in LV.

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Yeah, whatever UNLV used to draw, having to compete with the Raiders and the A's won't help.

If you had done even a little research you would have known that UNLV has mostly had a losing football program for years and years. Las season was a huge exception to that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UNLV_Rebels_football_seasons#:~:text=UNLV%20football%20began%20in%201968.%20After%20spending%20time,of%20which%20it%20has%20been%20a%20member%20since.

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If you had done even a little research you would have known that UNLV has mostly had a losing football program for years and years. Las season was a huge exception to that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UNLV_Rebels_football_seasons#:~:text=UNLV%20football%20began%20in%201968.%20After%20spending%20time,of%20which%20it%20has%20been%20a%20member%20since.

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And if you had done even a little bit of research you would have known that your proposed Pac-9 wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in h#ll...

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If you had done even a little research you would have known that UNLV has mostly had a losing football program for years and years. Las season was a huge exception to that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UNLV_Rebels_football_seasons#:~:text=UNLV%20football%20began%20in%201968.%20After%20spending%20time,of%20which%20it%20has%20been%20a%20member%20since.

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And if you had done even a little bit of research you would have known that your proposed Pac-9 wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in h#ll...

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And our entrance into the ACC is a done deal. We are under contract with the ACC through 2036.

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I read a few month ago a comment from an ACC fan that 5,000 or so people from his ACC alma mater were planning to attend a scheduled football game next season at UNLV but only 1,000 or so were planning to a attend a Cal game at Cal the same year. Shows what an attraction Vegas is in drawing fans from around the country.

Going to a game at a location that is fun is a huge draw in getting fans to make it a travel destination when your team plays them. I had a whale of a time visiting Austin when Cal played Texas ten or so years ago. Even made it to four BBQ joints there in one day. Also went to some nice wineries in the foothills about an hour outside of the city. All in all, had a great time there and got to see my Bears win a thriller vs. Texas.

Here's a list of the top travel destinations in the U.S. Las Vegas is clearly #1. Cal fans would love to visit Vegas every few years or so for its fun attributes while watching there Bears play. UNLV plays in the Raiders stadium, another reason to attend a Cal game there. https://wallethub.com/edu/most-fun-cities-in-the-us/23455

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Must be why UNLV has that monster budget, and draws such massive crowds of 23,600.

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Except for the Knights. But there is a ton of truth to that in regards to the A's (and Raiders). The other thing to keep in mind is that people only have a finite amount of disposable income, and since LV is small, it's not going to be enough to support all the local teams. Can't see UNLV ever getting to a place where they out compete other local teams for that $$$.

I also just noticed that our @UNLV game has disappeared. So we apparently get them twice at home with no games in LV.

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As a Group of Five (or six) FBS team, any such team would be eligible to receive a FBS football playoff invitation if it met the FBS rules.

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As a Group of Five (or six) FBS team, any such team would be eligible to receive a FBS football playoff invitation if it met the FBS rules.

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Eligible? Perhaps.
Likely? Perhaps not.

Gobears49 said:

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As a Group of Five (or six) FBS team, any such team would be eligible to receive a FBS football playoff invitation if it met the FBS rules.

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We are under contract with the ACC through 2036. In the meantime we can watch Oregon State and Washington State and see how it goes for them, If it turns out rejoining the PAC is a better option we can revisit this in about 10 years and make plans for 2037. Until then, it is moot. We are in the ACC. Try to enjoy it. I do think as an ACC member, we will focus the 4 out of conference games on West Coast opponents