Does anybody know when it will be announced or who is the favorite thus far?

4th to 5th week of the season, they will pick the 3rd stringer to take over .... Again!

Econ141 said:

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4th to 5th week of the season, they will pick the 3rd stringer to take over .... Again!

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Bowers, McIlwain, Garbers, Modster, Glover, Jackson, Finley, Mendoza -- no one has really thrived in any kind of sustainable way under Wilcox. Bowers year one and Garbers in 2019 were the closest. It would be nice for Mendoza to win the job and build on his promising 2023.

KoreAmBear said:

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Econ141 said:

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4th to 5th week of the season, they will pick the 3rd stringer to take over .... Again!

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Bowers, McIlwain, Garbers, Modster, Glover, Jackson, Finley, Mendoza -- no one has really thrived in any kind of sustainable way under Wilcox. Bowers year one and Garbers in 2019 were the closest. It would be nice for Mendoza to win the job and build on his promising 2023.

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Mendoza is the best QB we have had since the Dykes QBs and if Rogers is really pushing him than we should be in a good spot their going into 2024.

KoreAmBear said:

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Econ141 said:

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4th to 5th week of the season, they will pick the 3rd stringer to take over .... Again!

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Bowers, McIlwain, Garbers, Modster, Glover, Jackson, Finley, Mendoza -- no one has really thrived in any kind of sustainable way under Wilcox. Bowers year one and Garbers in 2019 were the closest. It would be nice for Mendoza to win the job and build on his promising 2023.

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i disagree with the comment about Garbers. He was very rough in his Soph year. But made a major step forward by his Jr. year. IMO he was close to maxing out on his potential.

KoreAmBear said:

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Econ141 said:

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It would be nice for Mendoza to win the job and build on his promising 2023.

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That's the key, to separate himself and win the job. That's what we want.

When one guy doesn't set himself apart, that's when we see the QB shuffle.

Not necessarily... I think if they don't separate from each other, you just have to make the call that Mendoza is the guy. He has more years left in the system and there for him starting gives him and the team better upside. Building chemistry with wide receivers is a must and Wilcox has never had success implying 2 QBs.

GivemTheAxe said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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Econ141 said:

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4th to 5th week of the season, they will pick the 3rd stringer to take over .... Again!

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Bowers, McIlwain, Garbers, Modster, Glover, Jackson, Finley, Mendoza -- no one has really thrived in any kind of sustainable way under Wilcox. Bowers year one and Garbers in 2019 were the closest. It would be nice for Mendoza to win the job and build on his promising 2023.

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i disagree with the comment about Garbers. He was very rough in his Soph year. But made a major step forward by his Jr. year. IMO he was close to maxing out on his potential.

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https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chase-garbers-1.html

Which year was he rough? His worst year statistically was his freshman year where he put up comparable stats to Ross Bowers. His soph year he was a pretty good Pac 12 QB and we would've been hanging around the top 25 if he didn't get injured vs Arizona St. He never took that next step but he was a serviceable QB during most of his career here.

Econ141 said:

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Not necessarily... I think if they don't separate from each other, you just have to make the call that Mendoza is the guy. He has more years left in the system and there for him starting gives him and the team better upside. Building chemistry with wide receivers is a must and Wilcox has never had success implying 2 QBs.

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1. I get your point and it's a good one, but I'd go with the guy who seems like he gives us the bast chance to win this year.

2. If it's close (and I guess it is), I have no problem with both of them getting playing time, early in the season. That's how Joe Roth and Aaron Rodgers were able to emerge.

CJ Harris has popped into the conversation as did Mendoza last year - i.e. in third place but closing the gap. Here's his biography on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._J._Harris_(American_football)
Had sort of an odd career at Ohio U, but he must be a sharp kid as he was recruited by Cornell and Dartmouth. I'd prefer either Mendoza or Rogers to really take ownership of QB, but Harris is an intriguing "Plan C".

Big C said:

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Econ141 said:

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Not necessarily... I think if they don't separate from each other, you just have to make the call that Mendoza is the guy. He has more years left in the system and there for him starting gives him and the team better upside. Building chemistry with wide receivers is a must and Wilcox has never had success implying 2 QBs.

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1. I get your point and it's a good one, but I'd go with the guy who seems like he gives us the bast chance to win this year.

2. If it's close (and I guess it is), I have no problem with both of them getting playing time, early in the season. That's how Joe Roth and Aaron Rodgers were able to emerge.

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1. We absolutely need the best QB to play every year. We have six QBs on the roster, all are Bears, all have compelling stories, all are "deserving." We have Caminong as a true freshman this year and Sagapolutele, who is going to be a great one and could start as a freshman next year, but that is for next year's competition.

2. Absolutely. QB should not be so completely different from every other position in sports. Even when a starter is named there should not be so much hesitation to bring in a relief pitcher if he struggles in a game.

concernedparent said:

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GivemTheAxe said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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Econ141 said:

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4th to 5th week of the season, they will pick the 3rd stringer to take over .... Again!

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Bowers, McIlwain, Garbers, Modster, Glover, Jackson, Finley, Mendoza -- no one has really thrived in any kind of sustainable way under Wilcox. Bowers year one and Garbers in 2019 were the closest. It would be nice for Mendoza to win the job and build on his promising 2023.

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i disagree with the comment about Garbers. He was very rough in his Soph year. But made a major step forward by his Jr. year. IMO he was close to maxing out on his potential.

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https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chase-garbers-1.html

Which year was he rough? His worst year statistically was his freshman year where he put up comparable stats to Ross Bowers. His soph year he was a pretty good Pac 12 QB and we would've been hanging around the top 25 if he didn't get injured vs Arizona St. He never took that next step but he was a serviceable QB during most of his career here.

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His upperclassmen years were squandered by Musgrave trying to turn him into a drop back quarterback behind our horrible OL in 2020 and half of 2021. All his stats (including our wins) improved greatly in 2021 when he got the green light.

Modern football as evidenced by the NFL, increasingly utilizes quarterbacks who are dual threat whenever possible. Obviously, if a guy can't run well and "only"has a great arm you focus your offense on that, but it is absolutely nuts to not take advantage of a quarterback who runs well and can make plays on the move. And like any other position on the field, if he gets hurt, you play the backup. You play to win the game.

Econ141 said:

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Not necessarily... I think if they don't separate from each other, you just have to make the call that Mendoza is the guy. He has more years left in the system and there for him starting gives him and the team better upside. Building chemistry with wide receivers is a must and Wilcox has never had success implying 2 QBs.

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I'd argue that this has more to do with the fact that the QBs tried in multiple QB systems aren't any good more so than a Wilcox thing or an inherent problem playing more than one guy.

alarsuel said:

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Econ141 said:

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Not necessarily... I think if they don't separate from each other, you just have to make the call that Mendoza is the guy. He has more years left in the system and there for him starting gives him and the team better upside. Building chemistry with wide receivers is a must and Wilcox has never had success implying 2 QBs.

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I'd argue that this has more to do with the fact that the QBs tried in multiple QB systems aren't any good more so than a Wilcox thing or an inherent problem playing more than one guy.

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Fair but Mendoza was just a (redshirt) freshman last year. So if a sophomore is just as good as an average grad transfer QB, I would give him the starting nod and feel very optimistic that he will become much better half way through the season as a result of more experience.

It may be the case that QBs involved in multi-qb systems are not very good to begin with but I would say that is a Wilcox issue because he is accountable for recruiting.

Econ141 said:

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alarsuel said:

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Econ141 said:

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Not necessarily... I think if they don't separate from each other, you just have to make the call that Mendoza is the guy. He has more years left in the system and there for him starting gives him and the team better upside. Building chemistry with wide receivers is a must and Wilcox has never had success implying 2 QBs.

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I'd argue that this has more to do with the fact that the QBs tried in multiple QB systems aren't any good more so than a Wilcox thing or an inherent problem playing more than one guy.

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Fair but Mendoza was just a (redshirt) freshman last year. So if a sophomore is just as good as an average grad transfer QB, I would give him the starting nod and feel very optimistic that he will become much better half way through the season as a result of more experience.

It may be the case that QBs involved in multi-qb systems are not very good to begin with but I would say that is a Wilcox issue because he is accountable for recruiting.

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If they were performing equally well, I have no doubt Mendoza would be named the starter as you want. Wilcox clearly loves the kid as do the fans. Rogers is going to have to be markedly better to beat Mendoza and even then there will probably be a QB controversy.

My guess is Mendoza starts but both QBs play substantial time against UC Davis.

Mendoza's effectiveness will largely depend on Bloesch and the OL. He absolutely cannot turn the ball over at the rate he did last year (because that is where Rogers excels: last year 29 TDs vs only 5 Int).

calumnus said:

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Econ141 said:

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alarsuel said:

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Econ141 said:

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Not necessarily... I think if they don't separate from each other, you just have to make the call that Mendoza is the guy. He has more years left in the system and there for him starting gives him and the team better upside. Building chemistry with wide receivers is a must and Wilcox has never had success implying 2 QBs.

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I'd argue that this has more to do with the fact that the QBs tried in multiple QB systems aren't any good more so than a Wilcox thing or an inherent problem playing more than one guy.

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Fair but Mendoza was just a (redshirt) freshman last year. So if a sophomore is just as good as an average grad transfer QB, I would give him the starting nod and feel very optimistic that he will become much better half way through the season as a result of more experience.

It may be the case that QBs involved in multi-qb systems are not very good to begin with but I would say that is a Wilcox issue because he is accountable for recruiting.

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If they were performing equally well, I have no doubt Mendoza would be named the starter as you want. Wilcox clearly loves the kid as do the fans. Rogers is going to have to be markedly better to beat Mendoza and even then there will probably be a QB controversy.

My guess is Mendoza starts but both QBs play substantial time against UC Davis.

Mendoza's effectiveness will largely depend on Bloesch and the OL. He absolutely cannot turn the ball over at the rate he did last year (because that is where Rogers excels: last year 29 TDs vs only 5 Int).

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That stat seems incredibly important. Turnovers have a high influence on the game's outcome. Perhaps it is Mendoza's job to lose, but his thing to fix is his turnovers. If he coughs up the ball it seems logical that even a slightly less talented upperclassman might be a better option on ball security alone. Our QB doesn't need to win the game, but they sure as hell can't lose it for us.

I concur, Harris has popped and all of the coaches have noticed and commented. I only saw him in practice in the one I attended and he looked very good!