If Cal played in Dublin, would you go?

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golden sloth
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I think I'd be in!
HateRed
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Me too!!
AunBear89
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In a heartbeat! My wife is from Dublin, so we have dozens of places to go and people to see and things to do just in Dublin, with others spread across the country. It would be at least a three week trip.

I'd probably bring a cadre of in-laws and nephews and nieces to the game, and spend most of it explaining what is happening. But I wouldn't have to put my hand in my pocket for a single pint of Guinness all day.
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absolutely!
OneKeg
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The question almost answers itself!
Anarchistbear
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No, the Irish are a low and sloppy people, consumed by drunken melancholy. I'm reminded of that whenever I go to family reunions
Cal88
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Would definitely go, and tailgate at my friend's place in San Ramon.

Dublin Berkeley San Lorenzo Cupertino San Jose.
Anarchistbear
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Draw the line at Milpitas
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No
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
BearSD
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Whether it's in the best interest of Cal depends on who the opponent is and whether the Bears have to give up a home game (like Georgia Tech is doing today) to play in Ireland.

If it's a home game for the other team... sure, go for it. If it's a Cal home game with an opponent not likely to lead to a large crowd at CMS (e.g., Boston College) then that's ok too. If it's a Cal home game with Notre Dame... no friggin' way. That game has to be played in Berkeley.
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Absolutely. Dublin is a fantastic city.
bencgilmore
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Probably
ducky23
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This is probably a really stupid question (and I'm just missing the obvious answer), but why is the game in Ireland? Like what's the benefit to NCAAF?

I get why Dublin would want the game. But what's the benefit to college football. Are they hoping to generate more college football fans? (Seems doubtful - I doubt too many Irish people care at all). Is it just to provide a cool trip for college football fans. Is it cause Ireland is paying the ncaa?
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Yes, definitely. Is there a stadium near the BART station?
golden sloth
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Cal88 said:

Would definitely go, and tailgate at my friend's place in San Ramon.

Dublin Berkeley San Lorenzo Cupertino San Jose.


I was wondering who would make this joke.
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ducky23 said:

This is probably a really stupid question (and I'm just missing the obvious answer), but why is the game in Ireland? Like what's the benefit to NCAAF?

I get why Dublin would want the game. But what's the benefit to college football. Are they hoping to generate more college football fans? (Seems doubtful - I doubt too many Irish people care at all). Is it just to provide a cool trip for college football fans. Is it cause Ireland is paying the ncaa?

It does add to the interest of watching the game with the local color and atmosphere for the causal viewer, and the stadium was packed. I am sure that the FSU/GT fans who flew over loved it, so why not?

It could be a great tradition to open the season with a good matchup from cities like Dublin, London, Frankfurt (lots of American locals), Berlin, Mexico City or even Tokyo and Hong Kong. In certain markets like Japan or the UK, the NCAA can actually help its brand with the local markets.
Anarchistbear
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Pretty sure participants in this game get an extra bye week
golden sloth
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Cal88 said:

ducky23 said:

This is probably a really stupid question (and I'm just missing the obvious answer), but why is the game in Ireland? Like what's the benefit to NCAAF?

I get why Dublin would want the game. But what's the benefit to college football. Are they hoping to generate more college football fans? (Seems doubtful - I doubt too many Irish people care at all). Is it just to provide a cool trip for college football fans. Is it cause Ireland is paying the ncaa?

It does add to the interest of watching the game with the local color and atmosphere for the causal viewer, and the stadium was packed. I am sure that the FSU/GT fans who flew over loved it, so why not?

It could be a great tradition to open the season with a good matchup from cities like Dublin, London, Frankfurt (lots of American locals), Berlin, Mexico City or even Tokyo and Hong Kong. In certain markets like Japan or the UK, the NCAA can actually help its brand with the local markets.


I thought the sydney game was fun. I think the key is fto fnd fanbases that will travel to these destinations, and to not reuse the same schools over and over. Having an international game is fun every 5 to 10 years, but if it happens more than that, I think the fanbase would get fatigued.
ColoradoBear
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Would a great trip, as long as it's not versus Notre Dame in place of a ND game at CMS.

Looks like it's Iowa State vs Kansas State in 2025 and Pittsburgh vs Wisconsin in 2027.

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Here's to the Irish!
philly1121
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Cal88 said:

ducky23 said:

This is probably a really stupid question (and I'm just missing the obvious answer), but why is the game in Ireland? Like what's the benefit to NCAAF?

I get why Dublin would want the game. But what's the benefit to college football. Are they hoping to generate more college football fans? (Seems doubtful - I doubt too many Irish people care at all). Is it just to provide a cool trip for college football fans. Is it cause Ireland is paying the ncaa?

It does add to the interest of watching the game with the local color and atmosphere for the causal viewer, and the stadium was packed. I am sure that the FSU/GT fans who flew over loved it, so why not?

It could be a great tradition to open the season with a good matchup from cities like Dublin, London, Frankfurt (lots of American locals), Berlin, Mexico City or even Tokyo and Hong Kong. In certain markets like Japan or the UK, the NCAA can actually help its brand with the local markets.


My only question would be - whose home game was this supposed to be originally? Season ticket holders would be upset.
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Interestingly, George Berkeley was educated at Trinity College in Dublin and remained there after he graduated as a lecturer.
Cal88
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philly1121 said:

Cal88 said:

ducky23 said:

This is probably a really stupid question (and I'm just missing the obvious answer), but why is the game in Ireland? Like what's the benefit to NCAAF?

I get why Dublin would want the game. But what's the benefit to college football. Are they hoping to generate more college football fans? (Seems doubtful - I doubt too many Irish people care at all). Is it just to provide a cool trip for college football fans. Is it cause Ireland is paying the ncaa?

It does add to the interest of watching the game with the local color and atmosphere for the causal viewer, and the stadium was packed. I am sure that the FSU/GT fans who flew over loved it, so why not?

It could be a great tradition to open the season with a good matchup from cities like Dublin, London, Frankfurt (lots of American locals), Berlin, Mexico City or even Tokyo and Hong Kong. In certain markets like Japan or the UK, the NCAA can actually help its brand with the local markets.


My only question would be - whose home game was this supposed to be originally? Season ticket holders would be upset.


It's a nationally televised game, the first of the season, with no other games going, TV revenues and ratings must be very solid. as well it is probably planned well before season tix go on sale.
philly1121
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of course, no doubt. But schedules don't happen year to year. They're set up several years in advance. Was this originally a home game for GT? FSU? Or was it scheduled as a neutral game?

I feel like the fans lose when a game goes away from a home field. I know they are trying to do this for Premier League games. Like, actual league games played in the US and English fans are not having it. Fans in the US don't seem to bat an eye at it tho. Go ahead, take our home games. lol
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philly1121 said:

of course, no doubt. But schedules don't happen year to year. They're set up several years in advance. Was this originally a home game for GT? FSU? Or was it scheduled as a neutral game?

I feel like the fans lose when a game goes away from a home field. I know they are trying to do this for Premier League games. Like, actual league games played in the US and English fans are not having it. Fans in the US don't seem to bat an eye at it tho. Go ahead, take our home games. lol



GT only has 3 ACC home games this year, so it did come out of their allotment. They also have Notre Dame at home, but moved it to the Falcons Stadium. Curious if there is an uneven split of ticket sales - a home game vs FSU is worth millions.
philly1121
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Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's fair. You have this huge game and you lose it to Dublin. You could have made a fortune for a home game against FSU. Maybe you get righted by the game proceeds in Dublin but surely that is shared with FSU for the huge travel costs. I looked at an FSU website. All travel costs are covered. FSU was allocated 15,000 tickets but with no sales obligation. Not sure if either school was paid for their appearance. Seems like a bad deal for GT.
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philly1121 said:

Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's fair. You have this huge game and you lose it to Dublin. You could have made a fortune for a home game against FSU. Maybe you get righted by the game proceeds in Dublin but surely that is shared with FSU for the huge travel costs. I looked at an FSU website. All travel costs are covered. FSU was allocated 15,000 tickets but with no sales obligation. Not sure if either school was paid for their appearance. Seems like a bad deal for GT.


It should not be a conference game. It should be a one-off OOC neutral site game.
ducky23
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I think it's plain nuts to give up a home game against FSU. Unless GT is getting a huge payday from TV. Like huge.

And if you're TV, why are you paying more for a game in Dublin? It sticks you with an awful tv time slot. Would that game have gotten less eyeballs if it were played in prime time at the Mercedes stadium in Atlanta?

Again, I'm not seeing who this benefits besides maybe the city of Dublin.
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philly1121 said:

Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's fair. You have this huge game and you lose it to Dublin. You could have made a fortune for a home game against FSU. Maybe you get righted by the game proceeds in Dublin but surely that is shared with FSU for the huge travel costs. I looked at an FSU website. All travel costs are covered. FSU was allocated 15,000 tickets but with no sales obligation. Not sure if either school was paid for their appearance. Seems like a bad deal for GT.
Tickets for both FSU and GT contigents were $245-$375 a piece. Aviva Stadium holds 51k and the game was sold out. That's potentially pushing $12-15 million in ticket sales (no idea what locals were paying for tickets though). There should be enough money to pay GT a hefty sum to compensate for the home game, pay travel expenses, give the promoter some revenue (and the city some extra tourism revenue), and maybe even give FSU a cut of the action for the trouble. FSU was highly ranked and fans were motivated to travel and spend $$$.
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Absolutely! Slainte!

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ColoradoBear said:

philly1121 said:

Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's fair. You have this huge game and you lose it to Dublin. You could have made a fortune for a home game against FSU. Maybe you get righted by the game proceeds in Dublin but surely that is shared with FSU for the huge travel costs. I looked at an FSU website. All travel costs are covered. FSU was allocated 15,000 tickets but with no sales obligation. Not sure if either school was paid for their appearance. Seems like a bad deal for GT.
Tickets for both FSU and GT contigents were $245-$375 a piece. Aviva Stadium holds 51k and the game was sold out. That's potentially pushing $12-15 million in ticket sales (no idea what locals were paying for tickets though). There should be enough money to pay GT a hefty sum to compensate for the home game, pay travel expenses, give the promoter some revenue (and the city some extra tourism revenue), and maybe even give FSU a cut of the action for the trouble. FSU was highly ranked and fans were motivated to travel and spend $$$.


Tourism revenue? To Dublin? Who cares about that? If I'm GT I'm missing concessions, more ticket sales, parking, and the revenue around the stadium for community. No way I agree to a league game away from my home turf.
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philly1121 said:

ColoradoBear said:

philly1121 said:

Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's fair. You have this huge game and you lose it to Dublin. You could have made a fortune for a home game against FSU. Maybe you get righted by the game proceeds in Dublin but surely that is shared with FSU for the huge travel costs. I looked at an FSU website. All travel costs are covered. FSU was allocated 15,000 tickets but with no sales obligation. Not sure if either school was paid for their appearance. Seems like a bad deal for GT.
Tickets for both FSU and GT contigents were $245-$375 a piece. Aviva Stadium holds 51k and the game was sold out. That's potentially pushing $12-15 million in ticket sales (no idea what locals were paying for tickets though). There should be enough money to pay GT a hefty sum to compensate for the home game, pay travel expenses, give the promoter some revenue (and the city some extra tourism revenue), and maybe even give FSU a cut of the action for the trouble. FSU was highly ranked and fans were motivated to travel and spend $$$.


Tourism revenue? To Dublin? Who cares about that? If I'm GT I'm missing concessions, more ticket sales, parking, and the revenue around the stadium for community. No way I agree to a league game away from my home turf.


I wouldn't be surprised if the two schools received some cash as well.

That said, Gtech also agreed to play their home game against Notre Dame at Mercedes Benz stadium rather than on campus. Maybe there is construction or something going on?
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ColoradoBear said:

philly1121 said:

Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's fair. You have this huge game and you lose it to Dublin. You could have made a fortune for a home game against FSU. Maybe you get righted by the game proceeds in Dublin but surely that is shared with FSU for the huge travel costs. I looked at an FSU website. All travel costs are covered. FSU was allocated 15,000 tickets but with no sales obligation. Not sure if either school was paid for their appearance. Seems like a bad deal for GT.
Tickets for both FSU and GT contigents were $245-$375 a piece. Aviva Stadium holds 51k and the game was sold out. That's potentially pushing $12-15 million in ticket sales (no idea what locals were paying for tickets though). There should be enough money to pay GT a hefty sum to compensate for the home game, pay travel expenses, give the promoter some revenue (and the city some extra tourism revenue), and maybe even give FSU a cut of the action for the trouble. FSU was highly ranked and fans were motivated to travel and spend $$$.


Yes they do this for the money. Money for the conference and money for the teams. I a. Sure they made more on this than a home game for both teams. This was being advertised all over Ireland by Aer Lingus when I was back there in June. GSU jerseys were being sold all over the place ( so we're ND jerseys ). It was my first time there but spoke to lots of people very knowledgeable about football, college football and even realignment.
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philly1121 said:

ColoradoBear said:

philly1121 said:

Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's fair. You have this huge game and you lose it to Dublin. You could have made a fortune for a home game against FSU. Maybe you get righted by the game proceeds in Dublin but surely that is shared with FSU for the huge travel costs. I looked at an FSU website. All travel costs are covered. FSU was allocated 15,000 tickets but with no sales obligation. Not sure if either school was paid for their appearance. Seems like a bad deal for GT.
Tickets for both FSU and GT contigents were $245-$375 a piece. Aviva Stadium holds 51k and the game was sold out. That's potentially pushing $12-15 million in ticket sales (no idea what locals were paying for tickets though). There should be enough money to pay GT a hefty sum to compensate for the home game, pay travel expenses, give the promoter some revenue (and the city some extra tourism revenue), and maybe even give FSU a cut of the action for the trouble. FSU was highly ranked and fans were motivated to travel and spend $$$.


Tourism revenue? To Dublin? Who cares about that? If I'm GT I'm missing concessions, more ticket sales, parking, and the revenue around the stadium for community. No way I agree to a league game away from my home turf.

Georgia Tech's program got a huge amount of exposure out of this game, all the NCAAF fans eyes are on them right now.

Playing in Dublin added to the appeal of this game, it had a bowl-like quality to it.
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Flew to Iceland on Thursday with many "Dublin Bound" tee shirt wearing FSU fans. The return flight is probably not as jacked up as the initial flight! 50,000 disappointed fans on the long ride home!
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