I used to check all the pac12 scores. Today I had no interest in Acc teams. I did check fucla, though. They almost got a Hukela

oskidunker said:

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I used to check all the pac12 scores. Today I had no interest in Acc teams. I did check fucla, though. They almost got a Hukela

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I noticed Texas Tech 52 Abiliene Christian 51 lol. But generally on the whole, college football feels a lot more hollow than before, I don't care that much anymore.

Agree to an extent since I would have felt much better if Cal had shown they were the better team convincingly against UCD. But yes, I find myself disliking fUcla and SUC more this year having been them who split up the P12. For better or worse, I wanted ND State to beat Colorado and wanted Furd to beat Sunny Delight. The other schools? Just want WSU and OSU to stay with the rebuilding of the P2 and to win games as well! Oregon and UW I don't care about and won't follow. Same for ASU, but somehow like how Arizona has righted their ship! Utah and Colorado? Pfffft. I want SUC to get trampled tomorrow in Las Vegas.

My interest in this team is going.

How many of us called that the first play would be Ott up the middle? They exceeded my expectations on that play when it went for 5 instead of 3.

Not a single pitch out. Same ineffective screens. Coach Blows.

careful, Zona is tied with New Mexico atm lol.

I just watch Cal.

College football is dead to me. I'd rather watch my kids play soccer.

It's going to be harder following the scores of 17 teams vs. 12.
I'll need to upgrade my maths skills to figure out the standings in the ACC.

College football requires a lot of hatred. But my old hates- USC, Oregon, UCLA- are gone and I can't hate these new teams- Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Pitt, ***. Thank God we still have Stanford

I was watching several of the other ACC games today. Watching them made me more optimistic about Cal's chances this year.

Uhhh New Mexico, who lost to Montana State last week is toying with Arizona's defense lol. They're up 7.

Anarchistbear said:

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College football requires a lot of hatred. But my old hates- USC, Oregon, UCLA- are gone and I can't hate these new teams- Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Pitt, ***. Thank God we still have Stanford

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Give it time.

I already hate Florida State more than USC. Clemson right behind them. SMU is like a more privileged USC but in Dallas and we will play them every year. Duke is like another Stanford, but more arrogant. Carolina? They tried to block us too. We also get Notre Dame now.

calumnus said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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College football requires a lot of hatred. But my old hates- USC, Oregon, UCLA- are gone and I can't hate these new teams- Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Pitt, ***. Thank God we still have Stanford

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Give it time.

I already hate Florida State more than USC. Clemson right behind them. SMU is like a more privileged USC but in Dallas and we will play them every year. Duke is like another Stanford, but more arrogant. Carolina? They tried to block us too. We also get Notre Dame now.

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You're getting me excited. Duke and Notre Dame are very hatable…the others not yet

FSU certainly qualifies as the new SUC, IMHO. F those guys. And Clemson with the loss earlier today, has shown they are now too big for their collective britches and are worthy of much derision. At least from me. furd remains furd. That will never change. And UNC can suck it, as can Dook.

GO BEARS!!

For me, short term, it's mostly the conference switch. But longer term, it's the increased roster turnover, for all the schools, what with the portal and such. For example, with the dearly departed Pac 12, I was still able to mostly keep track of our roster, but I just wasn't interested enough to keep track of other schools' rosters... and so I cared about them less and less.

They are gradually alienating "college football" fans. Maybe they will be able to make up for that with people who are interested in "NFL Lite", but the passion will be gone. And the passion counted for something.

I care much less about college football and much more about the Niners.

oskidunker said:

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I used to check all the pac12 scores. Today I had no interest in Acc teams. I did check fucla, though. They almost got a Hukela

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Yes.

I don't have interest in any other games - not just games with former Pac-12 teams but any games.

College football is dead.

I will follow Cal because of my connection to the school as an alum but otherwise I don't care.

glb78 said:

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I just watch Cal.

College football is dead to me. I'd rather watch my kids play soccer.

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I'd rather watch your kids play soccer.

Anarchistbear said:

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College football requires a lot of hatred. But my old hates- USC, Oregon, UCLA- are gone and I can't hate these new teams- Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Pitt, ***. Thank God we still have Stanford

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My girlfriend grew up in the Deep South and then in Virginia. Her sister went to Virginia Tech.

When she got here to California she at least sort of started to get in on the hatred for USC and Stanford. She knew most of the Pac-10 teams at least.

When I told her we were going to the ACC she had no idea what that was so I told her we'd be playing Boston College and Syracuse and Wake Forest and UVA (among others).

I thought she might say "Oh, that's cool. It might be interesting to play UVA and VA Tech and North Carolina."

Her reaction instead was:

"Wow. What did Cal do to deserve that?"

oskidunker said:

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I used to check all the pac12 scores. Today I had no interest in Acc teams. I did check fucla, though. They almost got a Hukela

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no

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calumnus said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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College football requires a lot of hatred. But my old hates- USC, Oregon, UCLA- are gone and I can't hate these new teams- Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Pitt, ***. Thank God we still have Stanford

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Give it time.

I already hate Florida State more than USC. Clemson right behind them. SMU is like a more privileged USC but in Dallas and we will play them every year. Duke is like another Stanford, but more arrogant. Carolina? They tried to block us too. We also get Notre Dame now.

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You're getting me excited. Duke and Notre Dame are very hatable…the others not yet

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I'm finding it hard to hate Notre Dame right now, given that they kind of saved our a**es by arguing us into the ACC.

westcoast101 said:

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I care much less about college football and much more about the Niners.

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I've been watching much more soccer, Serie A, some EPL and Bundesliga and sometimes when americans play in the Championship. I find MLS boring. Now when I turn on college football and it's just 75% commercials, I am more and more tempted to just turn it off. They lied to the fanbase how the 2 minute warning would cut down on commercials lol. People just eat up their lies. They've made it worse. The NFL is a way better product than college football now because at least they've decided to protect their product a bit from over-commercialization. I predict american football is going to die out in 30 years because they don't care about the game thriving at all.

Part of me hopes schools set up an alternative NCAA with effective oversight. One with no NIL, or players being paid at all except for full 4-5 year scholarships and maybe a small stipend. With Bowl games or playoffs like Div II has. The kids that want to 'get paid', can feel free to join the blue blood factories. Maybe this new division can actually have kids going to school that want an actual education like the Ivies have. It's fairly obvious how the structure is set up now, if you don't have huge donors, you have no chance of competing with the Georgias, Oregon and Ohio States of the world.

Anarchistbear said:

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College football requires a lot of hatred.

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Watching Wilcox fumble around game after game, season after season gives me plenty of hate already

oskidunker said:

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I used to check all the pac12 scores. Today I had no interest in Acc teams. I did check fucla, though. They almost got a Hukela

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I forgot the season started, TBH.

I am not sure how much I care about college football at all, anymore. It just has no... tradition.

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Anarchistbear said:

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College football requires a lot of hatred. But my old hates- USC, Oregon, UCLA- are gone and I can't hate these new teams- Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Pitt, ***. Thank God we still have Stanford

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My girlfriend grew up in the Deep South and then in Virginia. Her sister went to Virginia Tech.

When she got here to California she at least sort of started to get in on the hatred for USC and Stanford. She knew most of the Pac-10 teams at least.

When I told her we were going to the ACC she had no idea what that was so I told her we'd be playing Boston College and Syracuse and Wake Forest and UVA (among others).

I thought she might say "Oh, that's cool. It might be interesting to play UVA and VA Tech and North Carolina."

Her reaction instead was:

"Wow. What did Cal do to deserve that?"

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Cal decided to produce an MVP program. For decades. Tedford almost derailed it, but fighting something that was so foundational nearly killed him.

I follow Cal and more recently, English futbol, specifically, Tottenham Hotspur.

Econ141 said:

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My interest in this team is going.

How many of us called that the first play would be Ott up the middle? They exceeded my expectations on that play when it went for 5 instead of 3.

Not a single pitch out. Same ineffective screens. Coach Blows.

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I still get mildly amused at myself thinking people will change and get better. Especially high paid leaders. Wilcox seems the same, judging by how his team plays: soft and bland, like we have an over abundance of talent and that we can just step out on the field and steamroll a team handmade for an ass whipping. Nope. Same old, same old. It's boring and it's slow and I'd really wish he'd go. (hmmm, I've heard that before).

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calumnus said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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College football requires a lot of hatred. But my old hates- USC, Oregon, UCLA- are gone and I can't hate these new teams- Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Pitt, ***. Thank God we still have Stanford

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Give it time.

I already hate Florida State more than USC. Clemson right behind them. SMU is like a more privileged USC but in Dallas and we will play them every year. Duke is like another Stanford, but more arrogant. Carolina? They tried to block us too. We also get Notre Dame now.

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You're getting me excited. Duke and Notre Dame are very hatable…the others not yet

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There are teams to hate in the ACC, you just got to give it time. No one wants to bash the conference in front of you guys too quickly as we know it is a hard year - all your playmates in the old sandbox are suddenly gone except Stanford. That's a difficult place to be.

However... you already get the vibe of F$U, aka the Criminoles. No need to say more. Clemson has for years been a great rivalry for us, but their recent success has made them less likeable. Miami, well, when they joined the conference in 2004, they wore shirts that said, "We're in your league now, but you're not in ours." Hmm. No ACC trophy yet, guys? You'll have to wait till basketball season to learn to hate Dook, but you will.

There are others, too. As was said, give it time.

My dad got me into Cal football before I even knew what a college was. He went to Cal in the mid-70s and fell head over heels for college football as a sport and of course Cal football in particular. It helped that Cal football was very easy to love during his Cal years. He gave me a Cal football education as I grew into a fan, with one of his earliest lessons being that the state of the conference impacts Cal. Our prestige is tied to our conference and therefore we should root for the success of our conference foes whenever they play out of conference.

The result of this attitude was that we became something akin to fans of all of the Pac-10 teams. Eventually I would feel the same kind of thrill (though in miniature) when they beat OOC teams as I did when Cal beat anyone. The advent of college football team forums helped grow my Pac-10 fandom (and my Cal fandom too), allowing me to interact with fans from all of the other Pac-10 teams for the first time (beyond perhaps a stray sentence exchanged with a fan at Memorial).

OOC play became my favorite segment of the college football season. I would watch every televised game including a Pac-10 team, recording games with my VCR when they overlapped with other Pac-10 games. This amounted to quite a commitment of time and as a result, games involving a Pac-10 team represented virtually all of my college football viewing experience. This continued during conference play. Friends didn't like watching college football at my place because I'd rather watch a game between two Pac-10 bottom feeders than two top-10 SEC teams. When they would go out at night, I would stay home to watch a game like WSU vs Arizona until 11:00 PM.

But although through familiarity and solidarity I became akin to a fan of the other Pac-10 teams, I never truly became their fan. The link through the Pac-12 to each of them still emanated from my affection for Cal and Cal football. With the Pac gone, the conduit for the pseudo fanhood is gone too. The only college football games I watched this weekend were ours and Stanford's (and I think Stanford will not be very watchable this season). Maybe I'll watch some of our former Pac brethren's games when they have a decent matchup. Ironically I might end up watching the most USC games just to root against them whenever they have a threatening opponent.

Other than that, looks like it's pretty much just Cal from here on out. They're doing their best with the "gameday experience" to alienate me too. Sad but I sometimes prefer away games just so I won't be annoyed with the constant barrage of canned music and advertisements or frustrated by how little the band plays nowasays beyond Big C and Fight for California.

After the Cal game, I looked for the results in the ACC since that is Cal's conference now. I am not interested in the 8 teams that brought down the Pac 12.

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My dad got me into Cal football before I even knew what a college was. He went to Cal in the mid-70s and fell head over heels for college football as a sport and of course Cal football in particular. It helped that Cal football was very easy to love during his Cal years. He gave me a Cal football education as I grew into a fan, with one of his earliest lessons being that the state of the conference impacts Cal. Our prestige is tied to our conference and therefore we should root for the success of our conference foes whenever they play out of conference.

The result of this attitude was that we became something akin to fans of all of the Pac-10 teams. Eventually I would feel the same kind of thrill (though in miniature) when they beat OOC teams as I did when Cal beat anyone. The advent of college football team forums helped grow my Pac-10 fandom (and my Cal fandom too), allowing me to interact with fans from all of the other Pac-10 teams for the first time (beyond perhaps a stray sentence exchanged with a fan at Memorial).

OOC play became my favorite segment of the college football season. I would watch every televised game including a Pac-10 team, recording games with my VCR when they overlapped with other Pac-10 games. This amounted to quite a commitment of time and as a result, games involving a Pac-10 team represented virtually all of my college football viewing experience. This continued during conference play. Friends didn't like watching college football at my place because I'd rather watch a game between two Pac-10 bottom feeders than two top-10 SEC teams. When they would go out at night, I would stay home to watch a game like WSU vs Arizona until 11:00 PM.

But although through familiarity and solidarity I became akin to a fan of the other Pac-10 teams, I never truly became their fan. The link through the Pac-12 to each of them still emanated from my affection for Cal and Cal football. With the Pac gone, the conduit for the pseudo fanhood is gone too. The only college football games I watched this weekend were ours and Stanford's (and I think Stanford will not be very watchable this season). Maybe I'll watch some of our former Pac brethren's games when they have a decent matchup. Ironically I might end up watching the most USC games just to root against them whenever they have a threatening opponent.

Other than that, looks like it's pretty much just Cal from here on out. They're doing their best with the "gameday experience" to alienate me too. Sad but I sometimes prefer away games just so I won't be annoyed with the constant barrage of canned music and advertisements or frustrated by how little the band plays nowasays beyond Big C and Fight for California.

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I am with you on the away games being more enjoyable. Try a pocket radio tuned to a jazz station or whatever music you like and use during time outs. Works for me

Florida State and Clemson are like the bullies in high school who think they can fight the SEC dude but then get clocked in front of the whole school.

Anarchistbear said:

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Florida State and Clemson are like the bullies in high school who think they can fight the SEC dude but then get clocked in front of the whole school.

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FSU may have been overrated and lost a close one to a good ACC opponent. Little too early to evaluate Clemson. A lot of good teams are going to be worn down by Georgia. Miami looks a little scary. Long way of saying most of us seem to be following the ACC teams to some degree.

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After the Cal game, I looked for the results in the ACC since that is Cal's conference now. I am not interested in the 8 teams that brought down the Pac 12.

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Living in SoCal I will be watching the LA teams in order to hold conversations. Gotta feeling it may be only with SC alums. UCLA has issues.

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SonomanA1 said:

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After the Cal game, I looked for the results in the ACC since that is Cal's conference now. I am not interested in the 8 teams that brought down the Pac 12.

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Living in SoCal I will be watching the LA teams in order to hold conversations. Gotta feeling it may be only with SC alums. UCLA has issues.

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This is very true- all the trash talk between neighbors, colleagues and friends is lost. Big loss, truthfully

LunchTime said:

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dimitrig said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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College football requires a lot of hatred. But my old hates- USC, Oregon, UCLA- are gone and I can't hate these new teams- Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Pitt, ***. Thank God we still have Stanford

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My girlfriend grew up in the Deep South and then in Virginia. Her sister went to Virginia Tech.

When she got here to California she at least sort of started to get in on the hatred for USC and Stanford. She knew most of the Pac-10 teams at least.

When I told her we were going to the ACC she had no idea what that was so I told her we'd be playing Boston College and Syracuse and Wake Forest and UVA (among others).

I thought she might say "Oh, that's cool. It might be interesting to play UVA and VA Tech and North Carolina."

Her reaction instead was:

"Wow. What did Cal do to deserve that?"

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Cal decided to produce an MVP program. For decades. Tedford almost derailed it, but fighting something that was so foundational nearly killed him.

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What is MVP in this context?