SebastaBear.....give us a reason.....

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In reply to PtownBear1 • 3:16p, 11/2/24
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dha said:
Losing these close games is certainly frustrating. But when the season started did anyone realistically think we could beat FSU, Miami or Pitt on the road? The NYTimes Athletic projected Cal to have just 5 wins in their first ACC season. Some forecasts might have been 7 wins, o the most optimistic side. And that was before our best offensive player, Ott, was injured. And then there are the two four star portal WR transfers that were supposed to start and have yet to play. And our experienced transfer FG kicker would be a bust. We all knew the OL was going to be a weak point. Defense has been solid for the most part, except for the second half against North Carolina State. Out talent level is not the top tier of the ACC that is pretty clear. You can blame the coaches for some bad calls, I was at the Pitt game and witnessed some of those. But more realistic is that our overall talent level and depth is yet not up to the top tier of the ACC, just like in the Pac 12. Even the opt Pac 12 schools, with the expcetion of Oregon, have been struggling with their conference moves this year - USC, UW, UCLA. And it is unlikely to be so in the new world of college athletic and pay fo play. Let's see how they do the rest of the season. Hopefully some of these injured players will be able to play and contribute.
When the season started, did anyone realistically think that Indiana, BYU, Iowa State, or Pitt would be undefeated in November? Or Duke would be 6-2 with their first win ever against FSU? Or Vanderbilt would topple Alabama?

Why do other teams get to exceed expectations, while we always stay the same? Our wins are against vastly inferior teams while we continue to give winless teams their only victory.


Because they actually try. When a HC underperforms for an extended period of time, they replace them rather than double down. You know, like pretty much every organization or business in history except Cal.

Our incompetent AD sees he has a below average coach that most on this board were happy with and extends him 6 years for a guaranteed $30 million and the vast majority on this board actually applauded it at the time.
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3:26a, 11/3/24
Next year would be a good year for a new coach to make a splash with a few more recruits and a light schedule. If we're going to go with the status quo we need a playoff appearance ultimatum.
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In reply to bearsandgiants • 6:09p, 11/16/24
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Next year would be a good year for a new coach to make a splash with a few more recruits and a light schedule. If we're going to go with the status quo we need a playoff appearance ultimatum.

No way Wilcox makes the CFP, even when he has a talent advantage.

We just need a new coach to spark interest in the program and take advantage of next year's easy schedule, because a middling season against weak competition will not draw fan interest. I think Rivera taking the job with deferred compensation is our only hope.
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In reply to bearsandgiants • 6:22p, 11/16/24
If Wilcox leaves, I assume players will leave. I want Wilcox gone but I don't think this is going to be a quick turnaround unless the new coach sparks a ton of NIL interest and we give the players we want to stay, "and offer they can't refuse."
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In reply to Econ141 • 6:38p, 11/16/24
Econ141 said:
If Wilcox leaves, I assume players will leave. I want Wilcox gone but I don't think this is going to be a quick turnaround unless the new coach sparks a ton of NIL interest and we give the players we want to stay, "and offer they can't refuse."



I could see if players leave because of the uncertainty, but if players leave because they think Wilcox was wronged, we'll, I don't have a lot to say about that without offending those kids, and wish them well.
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In reply to Econ141 • 6:52p, 11/16/24
Econ141 said:
If Wilcox leaves, I assume players will leave. I want Wilcox gone but I don't think this is going to be a quick turnaround unless the new coach sparks a ton of NIL interest and we give the players we want to stay, "and offer they can't refuse."


If we had a competent new AD right now he could be working with Ron Rivera on a deferred compensation package and have him start putting together his plan and his staff so he can hit the ground running when we let Wilcox go. Maybe after SMU in time for the bowl game. I am confident Cal fans will pony up NIL for Rivera.
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In reply to Econ141 • 7:03p, 11/16/24
Econ141 said:
If Wilcox leaves, I assume players will leave. I want Wilcox gone but I don't think this is going to be a quick turnaround unless the new coach sparks a ton of NIL interest and we give the players we want to stay, "and offer they can't refuse."
There is some risk of player movement out. But Indiana made a change and they are 10-0. This Syracuse team Cal just lost to made a change after last season. They are now 7-3.

We know that what Wilcox has been doing is unsuccessful So lets continue to roll with that. What we do not know is how much money is sitting on the sidelines due to Wilcox? It could be none or not much, but it could be significant.

The Cal degree still has a lot of value. There may be less attrition than you think. The new HC is crucial if you move on from Wilcox. They have to get it right.

JMO and not my money to spend but doing nothing also has a cost. And that cost could be significant.
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7:05p, 11/16/24
the right hire could absolutely keep the core of the team and might even be able to hold onto JKS. but we really need to have our **** together, and i have seen little evidence of any plan by our AD other than "pray JW figures it out"
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