Cal -7 v Syracuse

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ducky23
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Pretty much in line with what this spread was 3 weeks ago.

Cue the doomers saying this is an outrageous line in 3, 2, 1
Cal88
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The spread as predicted by Sagarin is 7.25pts, I think it accounts for home field advantage.

FAVORITE Rating Predict Golden Recent Recent UNDERDOG
@ California 7.25 8.40 5.07 9.07 10.25 Syracuse

Funnily enough, our Sagarin dropped from 35 to 41 after the road win at WF, I guess because the margin separating teams in that range is very narrow, kind of like the peloton in a bike race.

Syracuse is #62.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm
oskidunker
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Cal88 said:

The spread as predicted by Sagarin is 7.25pts, I think it accounts for home field advantage.

FAVORITE Rating Predict Golden Recent Recent UNDERDOG
@ California 7.25 8.40 5.07 9.07 10.25 Syracuse

Funnily enough, our Sagarin dropped from 35 to 41 after the road win at WF, I guess because the margin separating teams in that range is very narrow, kind of like the peloton in a bike race.

Syracuse is #62.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm


Who knows. I have no idea who will win.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
sycasey
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Cal is better and should win. That doesn't mean it will happen, of course.
Joegeo
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Betters have been given Cal a lot of benefit of the doubt since the Miami game
ducky23
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Joegeo said:

Betters have been given Cal a lot of benefit of the doubt since the Miami game


And cal is 3-1 ATS since Miami. 4-1 if you count Miami game.
Anarchistbear
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The ACC is a league of misfits.

We'll win by 7
calgldnbear
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Total for the game on the early line is 55.5
Strykur
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calgldnbear said:

Total for the game on the early line is 55.5
31-24 game...eh
calumnus
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Cal88 said:

The spread as predicted by Sagarin is 7.25pts, I think it accounts for home field advantage.

FAVORITE Rating Predict Golden Recent Recent UNDERDOG
@ California 7.25 8.40 5.07 9.07 10.25 Syracuse

Funnily enough, our Sagarin dropped from 35 to 41 after the road win at WF, I guess because the margin separating teams in that range is very narrow, kind of like the peloton in a bike race.

Syracuse is #62.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm


Sagarin is based on points, essentially point spreads, so a narrow loss to a highly ranked team improves our ranking while a narrow win over a lower ranked team lowers our ranking.

However, the other big factor is how the teams we have played did this past weekend. Sagarin is constantly using new data and the transitive property to try to rank all the teams.

Miami was our "good" loss but Miami losing to GT dropped them in the rankings and made our loss look not as good.

Virginia beat Pitt and made our loss to them look not as good.

Duke beat NC State and made or loss to them look not as good.

Florida State had a bye but were destroyed by UNC last week making our loss look even worse.

Auburn had a bye but of course lost to Vandy last week. They are 3-5 so our win is looking worse.

Oregon State lost to San Jose State and is now 4-5.

San Diego State lost to New Mexico and is now 3-6

So all of our opponents' losing has lowered our ranking. We have zero wins over FBS teams with winning records. Syracuse would be our first.
ducky23
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calumnus said:

Cal88 said:

The spread as predicted by Sagarin is 7.25pts, I think it accounts for home field advantage.

FAVORITE Rating Predict Golden Recent Recent UNDERDOG
@ California 7.25 8.40 5.07 9.07 10.25 Syracuse

Funnily enough, our Sagarin dropped from 35 to 41 after the road win at WF, I guess because the margin separating teams in that range is very narrow, kind of like the peloton in a bike race.

Syracuse is #62.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm


Sagarin is based on points, essentially point spreads, so a narrow loss to a highly ranked team improves our ranking while a narrow win over a lower ranked team lowers our ranking.

However, the other big factor is how the teams we have played did this past weekend. Sagarin is constantly using new data and the transitive property to try to rank all the teams.

Miami was our "good" loss but Miami losing to GT dropped them in the rankings and made our loss look not as good.

Virginia beat Pitt and made our loss to them look not as good.

Duke beat NC State and made or loss to them look not as good.

Florida State had a bye but were destroyed by UNC last week making our loss look even worse.

Auburn had a bye but of course lost to Vandy last week. They are 3-5 so our win is looking worse.

Oregon State lost to San Jose State and is now 4-5.

San Diego State lost to New Mexico and is now 3-6

So all of our opponents' losing has lowered our ranking. We have zero wins over FBS teams with winning records. Syracuse would be our first.


Yeah but Davis with the huge win over a #7 ranked team should count for something!!!!
calumnus
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ducky23 said:

calumnus said:

Cal88 said:

The spread as predicted by Sagarin is 7.25pts, I think it accounts for home field advantage.

FAVORITE Rating Predict Golden Recent Recent UNDERDOG
@ California 7.25 8.40 5.07 9.07 10.25 Syracuse

Funnily enough, our Sagarin dropped from 35 to 41 after the road win at WF, I guess because the margin separating teams in that range is very narrow, kind of like the peloton in a bike race.

Syracuse is #62.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm


Sagarin is based on points, essentially point spreads, so a narrow loss to a highly ranked team improves our ranking while a narrow win over a lower ranked team lowers our ranking.

However, the other big factor is how the teams we have played did this past weekend. Sagarin is constantly using new data and the transitive property to try to rank all the teams.

Miami was our "good" loss but Miami losing to GT dropped them in the rankings and made our loss look not as good.

Virginia beat Pitt and made our loss to them look not as good.

Duke beat NC State and made or loss to them look not as good.

Florida State had a bye but were destroyed by UNC last week making our loss look even worse.

Auburn had a bye but of course lost to Vandy last week. They are 3-5 so our win is looking worse.

Oregon State lost to San Jose State and is now 4-5.

San Diego State lost to New Mexico and is now 3-6

So all of our opponents' losing has lowered our ranking. We have zero wins over FBS teams with winning records. Syracuse would be our first.


Yeah but Davis with the huge win over a #7 ranked team should count for something!!!!


Montana is #7 in FCS, but ranked #109 in Sagarin overall. It did not hurt us but it did not help us.
Oski87
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calumnus said:

ducky23 said:

calumnus said:

Cal88 said:

The spread as predicted by Sagarin is 7.25pts, I think it accounts for home field advantage.

FAVORITE Rating Predict Golden Recent Recent UNDERDOG
@ California 7.25 8.40 5.07 9.07 10.25 Syracuse

Funnily enough, our Sagarin dropped from 35 to 41 after the road win at WF, I guess because the margin separating teams in that range is very narrow, kind of like the peloton in a bike race.

Syracuse is #62.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm


Sagarin is based on points, essentially point spreads, so a narrow loss to a highly ranked team improves our ranking while a narrow win over a lower ranked team lowers our ranking.

However, the other big factor is how the teams we have played did this past weekend. Sagarin is constantly using new data and the transitive property to try to rank all the teams.

Miami was our "good" loss but Miami losing to GT dropped them in the rankings and made our loss look not as good.

Virginia beat Pitt and made our loss to them look not as good.

Duke beat NC State and made or loss to them look not as good.

Florida State had a bye but were destroyed by UNC last week making our loss look even worse.

Auburn had a bye but of course lost to Vandy last week. They are 3-5 so our win is looking worse.

Oregon State lost to San Jose State and is now 4-5.

San Diego State lost to New Mexico and is now 3-6

So all of our opponents' losing has lowered our ranking. We have zero wins over FBS teams with winning records. Syracuse would be our first.


Yeah but Davis with the huge win over a #7 ranked team should count for something!!!!


Montana is #7 in FCS, but ranked #109 in Sagarin overall. It did not hurt us but it did not help us.


Davis is ranked 95. 97 in predictor. Above San Jose State and just below Oregon State.
calumnus
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Oski87 said:

calumnus said:

ducky23 said:

calumnus said:

Cal88 said:

The spread as predicted by Sagarin is 7.25pts, I think it accounts for home field advantage.

FAVORITE Rating Predict Golden Recent Recent UNDERDOG
@ California 7.25 8.40 5.07 9.07 10.25 Syracuse

Funnily enough, our Sagarin dropped from 35 to 41 after the road win at WF, I guess because the margin separating teams in that range is very narrow, kind of like the peloton in a bike race.

Syracuse is #62.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm


Sagarin is based on points, essentially point spreads, so a narrow loss to a highly ranked team improves our ranking while a narrow win over a lower ranked team lowers our ranking.

However, the other big factor is how the teams we have played did this past weekend. Sagarin is constantly using new data and the transitive property to try to rank all the teams.

Miami was our "good" loss but Miami losing to GT dropped them in the rankings and made our loss look not as good.

Virginia beat Pitt and made our loss to them look not as good.

Duke beat NC State and made or loss to them look not as good.

Florida State had a bye but were destroyed by UNC last week making our loss look even worse.

Auburn had a bye but of course lost to Vandy last week. They are 3-5 so our win is looking worse.

Oregon State lost to San Jose State and is now 4-5.

San Diego State lost to New Mexico and is now 3-6

So all of our opponents' losing has lowered our ranking. We have zero wins over FBS teams with winning records. Syracuse would be our first.


Yeah but Davis with the huge win over a #7 ranked team should count for something!!!!


Montana is #7 in FCS, but ranked #109 in Sagarin overall. It did not hurt us but it did not help us.


Davis is ranked 95. 97 in predictor. Above San Jose State and just below Oregon State.


Yes, according to Predictor we should beat them by 16 at CMS. Since we beat them by 18, that win is boosting us, ever so slightly, but more so confirming our current Sagarin ranking.
DoubtfulBear
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ducky23 said:

Pretty much in line with what this spread was 3 weeks ago.

Cue the doomers saying this is an outrageous line in 3, 2, 1
who is laughing now?
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