Matt Zenitz says......

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CAL4LIFE
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calumnus
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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?
WavyBear
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I remember a power running game under center (long time ago)
WavyBear
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HKBear97!
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CAL4LIFE said:




Not that familiar with Harsin, but from a quick read about how his time at Auburn ended, sounds like an absolutely terrible hire. That plus his likely friendship with Wilcox means it probably happens. Crappy coaches who just happen to be Wilcox's best friends - hmm, like Sirmon perhaps?
Pittstop
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His offenses consistently averaged (roughly) between 35 - 40 ppg, as both OC and HC at Boise, for more than a decade (combining both positions). He did the same as OC at Texas (27+ ppg followed by 30+ ppg). And the same thing as HC at Arkansas St (or maybe it was Alabama St - I took my eye off the page for a moment).
Pittstop
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HKBear97! said:

CAL4LIFE said:




Not that familiar with Harsin, but from a quick read about how his time at Auburn ended, sounds like an absolutely terrible hire. That plus his likely friendship with Wilcox means it probably happens. Crappy coaches who just happen to be Wilcox's best friends - hmm, like Sirmon perhaps?


Some of those holes that Boise's RB was getting would have been house calls for Ott or Jet.
ducky23
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Imagine the Cal Football alternate universe in which Wilcox actually had talented friends.

Instead he has Adam sandler level friends. To be fair though, Grandmas Boy is an absolute cult classic
wifeisafurd
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I don't think Harsin is the first choice or he would already be hired. That said, Harsin was Petersen's OC and Harsin had a great record at Boise State as head coach. His offenses put up big numbers. Auburn tends to burn through head coaches rather quickly. The highly regarded Hugh Freeze seems headed into flames as well.
Golden One
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Based on past performances of his offenses, seems like he would be a major upgrade from Wilcox's other OCs at Cal. But since Wilcox is doing the hiring, there is good reason to be skeptical.
oski003
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Harsin appears to be a dynamite hire.
Strykur
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oski003 said:

Harsin appears to be a dynamite hire.
Definitely the highest profile name we have had on staff perhaps since...
calumnus
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wifeisafurd said:

I don't think Harsin is the first choice or he would already be hired. That said, Harsin was Petersen's OC and Harsin had a great record at Boise State as head coach. His offenses put up big numbers. Auburn tends to burn through head coaches rather quickly. The highly regarded Hugh Freeze seems headed into flames as well.

Could easily imagine Wilcox did not get any hot OC who is currently employed (or unemployed and more controversial) and went back to his Rolodex.
calumnus
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Strykur said:

oski003 said:

Harsin appears to be a dynamite hire.
Definitely the highest profile name we have had on staff perhaps since...

Yeah, some similarities with Musgrave, but Baldwin too. Or a little bit like hiring Tedford as OC.

He was OC under Peterson and Mack Brown (briefly) then most of his success was as a HC. It is tough to get a read on what "his" offense is like. I assume "multiple."

Golden One
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Joegeo said:

He is apparently a major dick so depending who you are that is a plus or minus.


In that case he'll get along well well with Wilcox.
DoubtfulBear
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4-9 conference record at Auburn, sounds like Wilcox has got his man!
Alkiadt
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Golden One said:

Joegeo said:

He is apparently a major dick so depending who you are that is a plus or minus.


In that case he'll get along well well with Wilcox.


Not sure why you post that. Wilcox is pretty highly respected in the coaching fraternity for not being a dick.

And based on your posts, maybe you need a mirror?
Alkiadt
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DoubtfulBear said:

4-9 conference record at Auburn, sounds like Wilcox has got his man!


Are you purposely leaving out his 7 year Boise run to make your disgruntled point?


I think tomorrow there are going to be some surprised and happy Cal fans.
Alkiadt
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Golden One said:

Alkiadt said:

Golden One said:

Joegeo said:

He is apparently a major dick so depending who you are that is a plus or minus.


In that case he'll get along well well with Wilcox.


Not sure why you post that. Wilcox is pretty highly respected in the coaching fraternity for not being a dick.

And based on your posts, maybe you need a mirror?


I'm just basing my statement on my interactions with him. Have you had personal experiences that indicate otherwise? Maybe you just like dicks.

Angry much?
calumnus
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Alkiadt said:

DoubtfulBear said:

4-9 conference record at Auburn, sounds like Wilcox has got his man!


Are you purposely leaving out his 7 year Boise run to make your disgruntled point?

I think tomorrow there are going to be some surprised and happy Cal fans.

Yeah I wouldn't read too much from his bad record as a HC at Auburn or his good record as a HC at Boise.

Baldwin had a nice run as a HC at EWU. Turns out he was a bad OC.
Golden One
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Alkiadt said:

Golden One said:

Alkiadt said:

Golden One said:

Joegeo said:

He is apparently a major dick so depending who you are that is a plus or minus.


In that case he'll get along well well with Wilcox.


Not sure why you post that. Wilcox is pretty highly respected in the coaching fraternity for not being a dick.

And based on your posts, maybe you need a mirror?


I'm just basing my statement on my interactions with him. Have you had personal experiences that indicate otherwise? Maybe you just like dicks.

Angry much?


Not at all.
Pittstop
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DoubtfulBear said:

4-9 conference record at Auburn, sounds like Wilcox has got his man!


Cherrypick much?
Nofado
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No one is asking the right question here. Can he recruit and more importantly can he recruit OL?

We need horses in the trenches. Rather we need hogs. Mean streaks that plow the field with holes so big I can get 4.5 yards per carry.

It really doesn't matter who we hire. We need better player evaluation and development. That's key that's all that matters.

Mendoza cannot get hit as much as he did this year. He will be the LAST quality QB to come here if he does.
ducktilldeath
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Hasn't had a job in 3 years.

MAJOR HIRE.
calumnus
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Nofado said:

No one is asking the right question here. Can he recruit and more importantly can he recruit OL?

We need horses in the trenches. Rather we need hogs. Mean streaks that plow the field with holes so big I can get 4.5 yards per carry.

It really doesn't matter who we hire. We need better player evaluation and development. That's key that's all that matters.

Mendoza cannot get hit as much as he did this year. He will be the LAST quality QB to come here if he does.


We also need to move Fernando outside the pocket more, have better playcalling that does not result in so many third and longs and Fernando needs to learn to throw the ball away.
alarsuel
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Admittedly I'm skeptical because Wilcox, but if this was such a home run, why didn't Wilcox hire him this time last year? He's been on the bench for 3 years and nobody else hired him…that doesn't concern anyone else?
Nofado
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If we give him 2 more seconds in the pocket per play Fernando will be fine. That all falls back on scheme and OL talent.
calumnus
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alarsuel said:

Admittedly I'm skeptical because Wilcox, but if this was such a home run, why didn't Wilcox hire him this time last year? He's been on the bench for 3 years and nobody else hired him…that doesn't concern anyone else?


Exactly, Or the year before. It has all the markings of a another bad "friend of Wilcox from the Pacific Northwest" hire.
bearsandgiants
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alarsuel said:

Admittedly I'm skeptical because Wilcox, but if this was such a home run, why didn't Wilcox hire him this time last year? He's been on the bench for 3 years and nobody else hired him…that doesn't concern anyone else?


Maybe he was enjoying his multimillion dollar buyout and a few years to decompress.
DoubtfulBear
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Alkiadt said:

DoubtfulBear said:

4-9 conference record at Auburn, sounds like Wilcox has got his man!


Are you purposely leaving out his 7 year Boise run to make your disgruntled point?


I think tomorrow there are going to be some surprised and happy Cal fans.
Wilcox was also a great coach at BSU, doesn't mean he can't coach at the P5 level. Another example is his successor at Auburn, Hugh Freeze, who was amazing at G5 Liberty but mediocre in P4
DoubtfulBear
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Pittstop said:

DoubtfulBear said:

4-9 conference record at Auburn, sounds like Wilcox has got his man!


Cherrypick much?
Highlighting G5 success is cherry picking. Mediocre P5 results and no employment for years does not inspire confidence
Nofado
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The Syracuse coach is a baller. Just goes for it all the time and just doesn't care. I'd like a similar type coach
BearSD
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DoubtfulBear said:

Alkiadt said:

DoubtfulBear said:

4-9 conference record at Auburn, sounds like Wilcox has got his man!


Are you purposely leaving out his 7 year Boise run to make your disgruntled point?


I think tomorrow there are going to be some surprised and happy Cal fans.
Wilcox was also a great coach at BSU, doesn't mean he can't coach at the P5 level. Another example is his successor at Auburn, Hugh Freeze, who was amazing at G5 Liberty but mediocre in P4


Freeze is a scumbag, but his winning percentage at Ole Miss was better than Tedford's winning percentage at Cal.
Pittstop
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bearsandgiants said:

alarsuel said:

Admittedly I'm skeptical because Wilcox, but if this was such a home run, why didn't Wilcox hire him this time last year? He's been on the bench for 3 years and nobody else hired him…that doesn't concern anyone else?


Maybe he was enjoying his multimillion dollar buyout and a few years to decompress.


And to be present for his son's hs football games, and help him navigate the recruiting process before heading off to college to play D1 fb. And he was still spending Alabama's buyout money, so it's not like he 'needed' to rush right back into the cfb grinder.
Rushinbear
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alarsuel said:

Admittedly I'm skeptical because Wilcox, but if this was such a home run, why didn't Wilcox hire him this time last year? He's been on the bench for 3 years and nobody else hired him…that doesn't concern anyone else?
this wouldn't be a home run hire, but would it be better than what we have? would it be significantly better?

As long as we have JW, we will not get a home run hire. 1. we couldn't afford it. 2. a home run would have better opportunities elsewhere. 3. IF a home run might be interested in us for whatever reason, the window on such a deal would close quickly and suddenly - we are unable to strike while the iron is hot...not with these bozo's.
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