What exactly did he do that rubbed the Auburn fans the wrong way?Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
New OC Reportedly Brian Harsin
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We will never pay that man a buyout I promise you.Alkiadt said:Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
How soon until Hugh Freeze ends up fully vested in the Auburn fired coaches payout fund?
He destroyed our program. Didnt recruit. Thought he was better then everyone, total dick. Was not a good fit at Auburn at all and set us back years.calBlitz said:What exactly did he do that rubbed the Auburn fans the wrong way?Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
There was alot of off the field stuff but I really dont care about that.
Listen to this man!Jirao said:He destroyed our program. Didnt recruit. Thought he was better then everyone, total dick. Was not a good fit at Auburn at all and set us back years.calBlitz said:What exactly did he do that rubbed the Auburn fans the wrong way?Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
There was alot of off the field stuff but I really dont care about that.
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TBF As the OC I doubt Cal is expecting him to recruit.WalterSobchak said:Listen to this man!Jirao said:He destroyed our program. Didnt recruit. Thought he was better then everyone, total dick. Was not a good fit at Auburn at all and set us back years.calBlitz said:What exactly did he do that rubbed the Auburn fans the wrong way?Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
There was alot of off the field stuff but I really dont care about that.
That may be, but IMHO we can't afford to find out. We're teetering on the brink of extinction out here.Jirao said:TBF As the OC I doubt Cal is expecting him to recruit.WalterSobchak said:Listen to this man!Jirao said:He destroyed our program. Didnt recruit. Thought he was better then everyone, total dick. Was not a good fit at Auburn at all and set us back years.calBlitz said:What exactly did he do that rubbed the Auburn fans the wrong way?Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
There was alot of off the field stuff but I really dont care about that.
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You can't truly believe that Wilcox would hire an innovative offensive mind!. There isn't an innovative bone in Wilcox's body.HKBear97! said:
Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.
Golden One said:You can't truly believe that Wilcox would hire an innovative offensive mind!. There isn't an innovative bone in Wilcox's body.HKBear97! said:
Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.
Reminds me of The Mark Fox hire. Very depressing. What the hell is wrong with Wilcox?
Nobody here posting all this crap has any firsthand knowledge. Moderators please move this thread OT. Crucifying people by innuendo is wrong.
Harsin was probably a bad fit at Auburn in any event. The way he was hired ensured he would not be accepted. He has flaws (reportedly not a warm guy and/or good recruiter). But the way Auburn came after him was, in large part, a function of out of control donors and other constituencies who didn't want him there in the first place. They replaced him with Hugh Freeze - so it is beyond dispute that Harsin's firing had nothing to do with character or how he treated people.HKBear97! said:Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.BearGoggles said:One of the reasons Cal doesn't win in major sports is because too many irrelevant factors interfere. A football coach's politics are almost entirely irrelevant to whether they are a good coach.calumnus said:dmh65 said:
Do you think that Boise State didn't have a lot of black players during his highly successful run there? I would guess that Cal football players are more like Boise State football players than they are reflective of the overall campus culture. But go ahead and stereotype Boise State football players.
Admit it, anyone hired by Wilcox to coach on the offensive side of the ball would be likely blasted by Cal football blogs. (especially if they do not align politically, oh boy!)
If Cal can improve their O-line to be average, and if Fernando is coming back, I am optimistic for 2025. Glad that we'll have an OC with a track record of success (and yes, failure at Auburn. But people also do learn from failure..), and an OC that will not also be the offensive line coach.
Go Bears!
Fewer than most teams by far and some of them accused him of racism too. He issued a statement saying George Floyd protesters were the problem. He is full on Maga,
It is almost like this is Wilcox's Matt Gaetz nomination so we will be OK with Rolovich (who I was against for similar reasons but would be happier with).
Yet some here want to impose a purity test of some sort when the reality is that many (if not most) football coaches probably lean conservative and/or supported Trump. Do you think Wilcox and/or Sirmon are liberal? I tend to doubt it. There are actually a ton of conservative students at Cal for that matter.
I have no idea if Harsin is a good fit. Everyone agrees that the poor OL play was the real problem. But my suspicion is that Bloesch is unwilling to accept a demotion back to OL coach. If so, then the only option was to hire a new OC and new OL, in which case Harsin seems like a reasonable option. I also suspect Wilcox did not have a lot of other great options given his trajectory.
And FWIW, based on what I've read, I blame 99% of what happened to Harsin at Auburn on Auburn. They were looking to fire him from the moment they hired him. He had no chance.
Of course, now seeing how the usual suspects here are so furious due to his political beliefs, it would be pure comedy if he turns out to be a huge success. The whole season we can speculate which play Trump helped design! Perhaps Elon Musk can help out with the offensive game plan one week! Gonna be comedy gold!
In terms of him being out of work, he had a massive buyout. Why wouldn't he kick it for a year or two? I'm sure he had options . . . but he didn't need to take any of them given the buyout.
Like you, I suspect Harsin or Rolovich were probably the best options for Wilcox. Not an easy position to fill given his own history.
We will see when Mendoza decides to leave or stay.
How do you go from a head coach to an OC?
IF he can dedicate himself to excellence and a mission, it is conceivable, except that it's a lot to ask ....
IF he can dedicate himself to excellence and a mission, it is conceivable, except that it's a lot to ask ....
CAL needs to lock_down Bay Area recruiting, and that means building relationships with the coaches and members of leadership at all those schools. Harsin seems like the exact opposite of someone who will even try to do that, let alone be good at it. There is a clear path to football success at CAL and it lies in your own back yard. That shoud be the overarching strategy of the athletic department: recruit locally. This seems like a strategic failure.
How soon they forget that Chip Kelly went from head to coach to OCOsoDorado said:
How do you go from a head coach to an OC?
IF he can dedicate himself to excellence and a mission, it is conceivable, except that it's a lot to ask ....
I live in the Boise area and I wanted him two years ago.
Wilcox and Harsin did a great job together so their styles will hopefully still work together.
Everyone in the area is obviously a BSU fan so I've been forced to watch their games sometimes and I really was impressed by the offensive style. They all think this is a great hire. That hook and lateral vs. Oklahoma is one of the best plays I've seen.
Harsin is possibly more qualified than Wilcox to be the HC and who cares about the politics. I live surrounded by Trumpers all day, everyday. I want to win, and I think this is the best OC that Wilcox could have hired, especially considering Wilcox is on thin ice.
Wilcox and Harsin did a great job together so their styles will hopefully still work together.
Everyone in the area is obviously a BSU fan so I've been forced to watch their games sometimes and I really was impressed by the offensive style. They all think this is a great hire. That hook and lateral vs. Oklahoma is one of the best plays I've seen.
Harsin is possibly more qualified than Wilcox to be the HC and who cares about the politics. I live surrounded by Trumpers all day, everyday. I want to win, and I think this is the best OC that Wilcox could have hired, especially considering Wilcox is on thin ice.
Golden One said:You can't truly believe that Wilcox would hire an innovative offensive mind!. There isn't an innovative bone in Wilcox's body.HKBear97! said:
Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.
I think he did just that.
The Hook & Lateral and then the Statue of Liberty play in the 2017 Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma to win in overtime were called by Harsin. Those are iconic, historical calls.
ducktilldeath said:
CAL needs to lock_down Bay Area recruiting, and that means building relationships with the coaches and members of leadership at all those schools. Harsin seems like the exact opposite of someone who will even try to do that, let alone be good at it. There is a clear path to football success at CAL and it lies in your own back yard. That shoud be the overarching strategy of the athletic department: recruit locally. This seems like a strategic failure.
That is clearly the head coach's fault.
Alkiadt said:Golden One said:You can't truly believe that Wilcox would hire an innovative offensive mind!. There isn't an innovative bone in Wilcox's body.HKBear97! said:
Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.
I think he did just that.
The Hook & Lateral and then the Statue of Liberty play in the 2017 Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma to win in overtime were called by Harsin. Those are iconic, historical calls.
I hope so. I'd like to be surprised.
Yes. Among others. If CAL hires me as GM, the first thing I'm doing is getting the AD staff and coaches into a room and we're writing a goal/mission statement with that at the top, and then they are going to create a plan to do it. If they won't buy in, if they can't contribute to how it can be done, they should be gone, regardless of whether or not you're the associate AD or WRs coach. Be ever present, build relationships, have the first team out of the head coaches' mouths be CAL. Every player in Concord, CA should have CAL on their short list.Golden One said:ducktilldeath said:
CAL needs to lock_down Bay Area recruiting, and that means building relationships with the coaches and members of leadership at all those schools. Harsin seems like the exact opposite of someone who will even try to do that, let alone be good at it. There is a clear path to football success at CAL and it lies in your own back yard. That shoud be the overarching strategy of the athletic department: recruit locally. This seems like a strategic failure.
That is clearly the head coach's fault.
Frist, we can't afford Ron. He will be in demand when the coaching carousel comes around again, and the going rate for an uber experienced NFL head coach is $10 million or so these days. At least as a college head coach he get in the millions, for a GM college job pay, he is just throwing money away.Bearly Clad said:
You very well may be right but there are a few reasons to think things might've changed re: Rivera.
1. Last time the job was open he was still working in the NFL and making big money. Now post-Washington Commies tenure it seems very unlikely that he still has an NFL future so it would be essentially coming out of retirement or staying busy because he's not ready to be done
2. The state of college football has changed drastically since then and he's aware of that, I think he knows that it wouldn't just be 'doing us a favor' it could very well be saving a program that he loves. With realignment and our near, and possibly future, relegation he knows that the program needs to get back on track immediately. He's always been one of our outspoken supporters and it's not ridiculous to think he might be willing to come in for a handful of years to right the ship.
3. It doesn't have to be as HC; if he doesn't want to travel, thinks he could make the necessary administrative changes as a football GM, and identifies and lands the right HC to get the job done then everyone would be all for that as well. We just need some people who care and know what they're doing around the program
Personally I'd love it if next year Wilcox is out and we bring in Davis Webb to be our young superstar HC but that's just a personal opinion and there are problems with that as well. Namely, we don't know if he's interested, he has little coaching experience except a few years as an assistant, and with his star on the rise in the NFL there's no telling if he'd be willing to drop down a level (even for a promotion)
Second, he doesn't have the experience in the college game.
Third, he doesn't need the aggravation of being a college head football coach, which has become significantly more burdensome in recent years. There is now year round recruiting, massive roster changes, complex recruiting, transfer and NIL rules (when was the last time Ron had to recruit his draft choices?), way greater public attention, and then now ******** fans questioning your political views, at least at Cal. There really is very little off season now, and shockingly more grind as a college coach than a NFL Coach.
Creating a winning culture is hard enough, but imagine doing it under the immense pressure of the short time your school requires in the face of conference realignment. Rebuilds are no longer a thing for college football programs, it is more like reloading, and Cal really has very little to reload from relative to the football powers. It is not like the NFL draft where the weaker teams are handed a tool to compete by having better draft picks. In college, it is really is how good a fundraiser is Ron? Because he is buying talent.
As long as we are looking at fit, what makes everyone so sure Ron can recruit to Cal or fundraise so well? NFL coaches don't really do that. Ron is smart guy who knows what he is good at, which is being a NFL coach. Why change now given what a time sucking pressurized, underpaying job being a power school head coach has become?
Geez, sorry for TOSU that Chip isn't exactly an empathetic guy, to understate things. Who did he vote for, Cal fans on Growls need to know? No doubt that is why they lost to Oregon, not enough empathy. Kelly is just destroying their programncbears said:How soon they forget that Chip Kelly went from head to coach to OCOsoDorado said:
How do you go from a head coach to an OC?
IF he can dedicate himself to excellence and a mission, it is conceivable, except that it's a lot to ask ....
Alkiadt said:Golden One said:You can't truly believe that Wilcox would hire an innovative offensive mind!. There isn't an innovative bone in Wilcox's body.HKBear97! said:
Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.
I think he did just that.
The Hook & Lateral and then the Statue of Liberty play in the 2017 Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma to win in overtime were called by Harsin. Those are iconic, historical calls.
There is nothing particularly innovative about those calls - both of those plays were, what, 50 years old at that point.
GMP said:Alkiadt said:Golden One said:You can't truly believe that Wilcox would hire an innovative offensive mind!. There isn't an innovative bone in Wilcox's body.HKBear97! said:
Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.
I think he did just that.
The Hook & Lateral and then the Statue of Liberty play in the 2017 Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma to win in overtime were called by Harsin. Those are iconic, historical calls.
There is nothing particularly innovative about those calls - both of those plays were, what, 50 years old at that point.
I get that.
How often have you seen them run in the last 25 years?
How often have you seen them run at the very end of the game to win?
"Innovative" may not be the correct word. But they sure were exciting, completely 100% unexpected and they worked. I'll take that over "innovative".
Gee, an ad hominem attack, like calling someone a racist?chazzed said:
Children? Way to go for the ad hominem argument. I posted the links so that readers are able to make up their own minds.
But you do you, big guy.
Yes, they really should read those articles.
Folks on the insider board have a very different perspective on Harsin than over here. Go figure.
Pittstop said:
A quote from the article related to the Black player's [Justin Lee's] comments about Harsin: "Several Black players came to Harsin's defense following [Lee's comments], and the lack of any substantial evidence of racist rhetoric from the Boise native certainly helps his case" end quote.
Why is it still acceptable in this day and age to completely ignore the voices of Several Black witnesses?
GMP said:Alkiadt said:Golden One said:You can't truly believe that Wilcox would hire an innovative offensive mind!. There isn't an innovative bone in Wilcox's body.HKBear97! said:
Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.
I think he did just that.
The Hook & Lateral and then the Statue of Liberty play in the 2017 Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma to win in overtime were called by Harsin. Those are iconic, historical calls.
There is nothing particularly innovative about those calls - both of those plays were, what, 50 years old at that point.
Maybe not innovative. But it took guts. That's something in short supply with our coaching staff right now.
ducky23 said:GMP said:Alkiadt said:Golden One said:You can't truly believe that Wilcox would hire an innovative offensive mind!. There isn't an innovative bone in Wilcox's body.HKBear97! said:
Well said. I'm not a fan of the hire because 1) even if it is 99% Auburn's fault good coaches usually don't go down in flames like his tenure did, 2) he has been out of work for two years which typically is a bad sign in the coaching fraternity, and 3) was (foolishly) hoping for a more innovate hire on the offensive side of the ball.
I think he did just that.
The Hook & Lateral and then the Statue of Liberty play in the 2017 Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma to win in overtime were called by Harsin. Those are iconic, historical calls.
There is nothing particularly innovative about those calls - both of those plays were, what, 50 years old at that point.
Maybe not innovative. But it took guts. That's something in short supply with our coaching staff right now.
Innovative is feigning injury to stop a potent Oregon offense!
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburn/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6664062001/WalterSobchak said:https://static.montgomeryadvertiser.com/about/BearGreg said:A credible link - that is not one.WalterSobchak said:You said "post a link" so I did.BearGreg said:The article linked is from a fan website and uses a single tweet from a small newspaper beat writer as the doesn't mean he was accused of racism by players.calumnus said:
Harsin is a right-wing, Trump supporter and conspiracy theorist from Boise Idaho accused of racism by his players and was considered to the right of fans in Robert E Lee County Alabama. How is that a fit in Berkeley?
https://flywareagle.com/posts/former-auburn-football-hc-roasted-reaction-donald-trump-conviction
Besides, his offense requires a very good OL,. That ain't happening soon.
Enough with the unsubstantiated rumors, let's stick to what his former players aid and what he's done.
So...Quote:
A source said Harsin made efforts to relate to players like the ones he had at Boise State often from a working-class white demographic but did not always make the same effort to connect with others often Black players from urban areas in the South. However, the source said they never heard Harsin use racist remarks or language.
You used the cover of a reputable publication to try and pass off web forum scuttlebutt as fact when that publication in fact cast doubt on the agenda you had.
This is actually probably about the best hire Wilcox could possibly make given that he is a lame duck coach and fires every offensive coordinator he hires. Nobody with bright future prospects would take that job.
Jirao said:He destroyed our program. Didnt recruit. Thought he was better then everyone, total dick. Was not a good fit at Auburn at all and set us back years.calBlitz said:What exactly did he do that rubbed the Auburn fans the wrong way?Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
There was alot of off the field stuff but I really dont care about that.
No new HC hire can "destroy" 'any' program in less than 2 years (he was fired before being able to finish his 2nd season) unless that program was already rotting from the inside when he got there.
Jirao said:We will never pay that man a buyout I promise you.Alkiadt said:Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
How soon until Hugh Freeze ends up fully vested in the Auburn fired coaches payout fund?
Ride or die! Or put your money where your mouth is.
Jirao said:We will never pay that man a buyout I promise you.Alkiadt said:Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
How soon until Hugh Freeze ends up fully vested in the Auburn fired coaches payout fund?
Based on his record I think he's already collecting and has been for a few years. You just haven't moved him to the retirement fund yet.
Mark Helfrich?Pittstop said:Jirao said:He destroyed our program. Didnt recruit. Thought he was better then everyone, total dick. Was not a good fit at Auburn at all and set us back years.calBlitz said:What exactly did he do that rubbed the Auburn fans the wrong way?Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
There was alot of off the field stuff but I really dont care about that.
No new HC hire can "destroy" 'any' program in less than 2 years (he was fired before being able to finish his 2nd season) unless that program was already rotting from the inside when he got there.
Well, taking a look at the Auburn board (AU Family), they all seem to be saying pretty much the same thing. Harsin couldn't recruit. Despite his success at Boise, he had no actual signings on National Signing Day. Some posters are saying he chased off a 4 star qb recruit. But the bottom line was that he made no time for the power brokers/boosters at Auburn and did little to do the necessary work for recruiting. In 2022 Auburn ranked 62nd in recruiting.
Auburn appears to be pretty dysfunctional. At the time of Harsin's hiring, they had a new President Steven Leath who resigned from Iowa State. He hired Allen Greene as AD but from the boards, he held no power. In 2020, the boosters are tired of Guz Malzahn and force Greene to fire him. But Greene ignores the boosters and hires Harsin. In 2022, influenced by the boosters, Auburn doesn't renew Greene's contract and with a 3-5 record, Harsin is fired with 4 games to go.
So, I suppose it was down to the Auburn boosters, but the main takeaway: he can't recruit.
Auburn appears to be pretty dysfunctional. At the time of Harsin's hiring, they had a new President Steven Leath who resigned from Iowa State. He hired Allen Greene as AD but from the boards, he held no power. In 2020, the boosters are tired of Guz Malzahn and force Greene to fire him. But Greene ignores the boosters and hires Harsin. In 2022, influenced by the boosters, Auburn doesn't renew Greene's contract and with a 3-5 record, Harsin is fired with 4 games to go.
So, I suppose it was down to the Auburn boosters, but the main takeaway: he can't recruit.
Pittstop said:Jirao said:He destroyed our program. Didnt recruit. Thought he was better then everyone, total dick. Was not a good fit at Auburn at all and set us back years.calBlitz said:What exactly did he do that rubbed the Auburn fans the wrong way?Jirao said:
Auburn fan here. Was fun rooting for yall while it lasted.
Wish yall the best with this one but I will never root for a good thing to happen to that man on a football field.
There was alot of off the field stuff but I really dont care about that.
No new HC hire can "destroy" 'any' program in less than 2 years (he was fired before being able to finish his 2nd season) unless that program was already rotting from the inside when he got there.
Not "destroy" but in the Portal era can drop it pretty fast.
Jackie Treehorn said:https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburn/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6664062001/WalterSobchak said:https://static.montgomeryadvertiser.com/about/BearGreg said:A credible link - that is not one.WalterSobchak said:You said "post a link" so I did.BearGreg said:The article linked is from a fan website and uses a single tweet from a small newspaper beat writer as the doesn't mean he was accused of racism by players.calumnus said:
Harsin is a right-wing, Trump supporter and conspiracy theorist from Boise Idaho accused of racism by his players and was considered to the right of fans in Robert E Lee County Alabama. How is that a fit in Berkeley?
https://flywareagle.com/posts/former-auburn-football-hc-roasted-reaction-donald-trump-conviction
Besides, his offense requires a very good OL,. That ain't happening soon.
Enough with the unsubstantiated rumors, let's stick to what his former players aid and what he's done.So...Quote:
A source said Harsin made efforts to relate to players like the ones he had at Boise State often from a working-class white demographic but did not always make the same effort to connect with others often Black players from urban areas in the South. However, the source said they never heard Harsin use racist remarks or language.
You used the cover of a reputable publication to try and pass off web forum scuttlebutt as fact when that publication in fact cast doubt on the agenda you had.
This is actually probably about the best hire Wilcox could possibly make given that he is a lame duck coach and fires every offensive coordinator he hires. Nobody with bright future prospects would take that job.
Sounds like the AD should maybe step in here? Oh wait...
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