golden sloth said:

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PapaBear93 said:

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Absolutely ridiculous system.

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Honestly, I'm thinking of just quitting college football. I hate the playoff. I hate the winter scrimmages, I mean bowl games now. I hate the superconferences. I hate having a new roster every year. I hate how much money it takes to have an above average season. I hate the officiating. I hate the amount of tv ads.

Sure, it may be better for the coaches, the players, and the networks, but it sucks for me. I dont like what they are putting out, and in the end, i dont have to watch.

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Iamhere2help said:

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"As the CFP teams are preparing to make a run at the national title, the college football transfer portal has hit some programs harder than others.

Arizona State leads all the CFP teams with 12 portal departures, but the Tennessee Volunteers have seen 11 players exit the program amid their preparation for the showdown against Ohio State. "

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• More top players drop out /transfer after the end of the regular season OR EVEN BEFORE THE END OF THE REGULAR SEASON.
• Fans quit watching the playoff or bowl games because the marquee players aren't participating.
• TV ratings take a dive and networks can't get the same $$ from advertisers, so revenues take a dive
• Consequently, networks (and maybe conferences) demand that Congress get involved to develop a more rational system.

sycasey said:

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It is an absolute joke that the transfer portal opens before the postseason is over. Who thought that was a good idea?

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Bobodeluxe said:

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golden sloth said:

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PapaBear93 said:

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Absolutely ridiculous system.

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Honestly, I'm thinking of just quitting college football. I hate the playoff. I hate the winter scrimmages, I mean bowl games now. I hate the superconferences. I hate having a new roster every year. I hate how much money it takes to have an above average season. I hate the officiating. I hate the amount of tv ads.

Sure, it may be better for the coaches, the players, and the networks, but it sucks for me. I dont like what they are putting out, and in the end, i dont have to watch.

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Slaver. /s. < (some take this seriously)

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Bobodeluxe said:

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01Bear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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blungld said:

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Wait. That's not a joke? He's leaving as one bright spot of young player who will have his turn next year? I get the whole freedom argument, but is there no contractual obligation? You accept scholarship ( and NIL pay) for services rendered for some term. Why is there no enforcement here of this commitment on BOTH sides of the agreement? Maybe the solution here is signing out of high school is four year contract that can't be severed unless breach of contract. And that these players have non competes.

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Not gonna be enforceable for any CA school.

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You're right of the contract is an employment contract. But NIL deals are not employment contracts. They're for the right to license a person's name, image, or likeness. If a collective were smart, it would contract with each player for the exclusive use (aside from live game footage rights owned by the sports broadcasters) of the player's name, image, and likeness for four years. That would prevent players from shopping around for a better deal unless they breach the contract, in which case the NIL collective could include a liquidated damages clause, which would include three times the amount of the value promised to the player under the contract.

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And any player dumb enough to sigh would deserve "slavery" as many here say.

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Go!Bears said:

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C'mon QPR!

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01Bear said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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golden sloth said:

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PapaBear93 said:

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Absolutely ridiculous system.

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Honestly, I'm thinking of just quitting college football. I hate the playoff. I hate the winter scrimmages, I mean bowl games now. I hate the superconferences. I hate having a new roster every year. I hate how much money it takes to have an above average season. I hate the officiating. I hate the amount of tv ads.

Sure, it may be better for the coaches, the players, and the networks, but it sucks for me. I dont like what they are putting out, and in the end, i dont have to watch.

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Slaver. /s. < (some take this seriously)

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Because it's clear from your previous post in the thread (https://bearinsider.com/forums/2/topics/124634/4#discussion) that you weren't being sarcastic.

Bobodeluxe said:

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01Bear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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blungld said:

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Wait. That's not a joke? He's leaving as one bright spot of young player who will have his turn next year? I get the whole freedom argument, but is there no contractual obligation? You accept scholarship ( and NIL pay) for services rendered for some term. Why is there no enforcement here of this commitment on BOTH sides of the agreement? Maybe the solution here is signing out of high school is four year contract that can't be severed unless breach of contract. And that these players have non competes.

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Not gonna be enforceable for any CA school.

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You're right of the contract is an employment contract. But NIL deals are not employment contracts. They're for the right to license a person's name, image, or likeness. If a collective were smart, it would contract with each player for the exclusive use (aside from live game footage rights owned by the sports broadcasters) of the player's name, image, and likeness for four years. That would prevent players from shopping around for a better deal unless they breach the contract, in which case the NIL collective could include a liquidated damages clause, which would include three times the amount of the value promised to the player under the contract.

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And any player dumb enough to sigh would deserve "slavery" as many here say.

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Bobodeluxe said:

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01Bear said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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golden sloth said:

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PapaBear93 said:

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Absolutely ridiculous system.

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Honestly, I'm thinking of just quitting college football. I hate the playoff. I hate the winter scrimmages, I mean bowl games now. I hate the superconferences. I hate having a new roster every year. I hate how much money it takes to have an above average season. I hate the officiating. I hate the amount of tv ads.

Sure, it may be better for the coaches, the players, and the networks, but it sucks for me. I dont like what they are putting out, and in the end, i dont have to watch.

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Slaver. /s. < (some take this seriously)

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Because it's clear from your previous post in the thread (https://bearinsider.com/forums/2/topics/124634/4#discussion) that you weren't being sarcastic.

Bobodeluxe said:

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01Bear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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blungld said:

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Wait. That's not a joke? He's leaving as one bright spot of young player who will have his turn next year? I get the whole freedom argument, but is there no contractual obligation? You accept scholarship ( and NIL pay) for services rendered for some term. Why is there no enforcement here of this commitment on BOTH sides of the agreement? Maybe the solution here is signing out of high school is four year contract that can't be severed unless breach of contract. And that these players have non competes.

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Not gonna be enforceable for any CA school.

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You're right of the contract is an employment contract. But NIL deals are not employment contracts. They're for the right to license a person's name, image, or likeness. If a collective were smart, it would contract with each player for the exclusive use (aside from live game footage rights owned by the sports broadcasters) of the player's name, image, and likeness for four years. That would prevent players from shopping around for a better deal unless they breach the contract, in which case the NIL collective could include a liquidated damages clause, which would include three times the amount of the value promised to the player under the contract.

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And any player dumb enough to sigh would deserve "slavery" as many here say.

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You need to take a chill pill. Anyone who takes the nonsense on this free site seriously needs help…

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golden sloth said:

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Honestly, I'm thinking of just quitting college football. I hate the playoff. I hate the winter scrimmages, I mean bowl games now. I hate the superconferences. I hate having a new roster every year. I hate how much money it takes to have an above average season. I hate the officiating. I hate the amount of tv ads.

Sure, it may be better for the coaches, the players, and the networks, but it sucks for me. I dont like what they are putting out, and in the end, i dont have to watch.

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golden sloth said:

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BarcaBear said:

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What are you smoking? Taking money out? For who?

Solution? What imaginary problem do you think taking money out of football players hands resolves?

The problem is that it's a multi-billion dollar industry exploiting the bodies of players, most of which will never play professionally.

There are other problems that remain unaddressed either by the previous system or the present system: the lack of long term healthcare for players who sacrificed their bodies for the entertainment of fans.

The healthcare issue won't be resolved, but the league does need a salary cap at this point. We need minimum salaries , and luxury penalties for going over the cap and the money sent to weaker conferences or small market teams. Plus, nobody is being paid for their image, theyre being paid salaries.

That's a start.

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While we are at it, can stop pretending the athletes are students, and stop requiring them to take classes? Save those classroom spots for someone who gives a damn.

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socaltownie said:

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jy1988 said:

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Agree 100%. The real solution was to take the money OUT of college sports, not inject more. That would have meant that athletes would not be missing out on revenue sharing-because there would have been no crazy amount of dollars circulating to be missed out on. They get their degrees and free college-that would have been the reward. Anyone who didn't want the academic experience could attend a farm team sponsored by the NFL. And get paid that way.

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It is an interesting model.....

But ultimately it would never have happened. Remember - a big part of this is the artifice of higher education accounting where the $$$ from football goes to the AD....which it turn is "awarded" as a scholarship to an upper middle class kid in a non revenue sport with the hope that they are going to become a future donor....which in turn just flows back (cause the scholarship award winner never sees it) as money into the general fun. Since the marginal costs to educate another student at most of these semi-non selectives is small, this is a great revenue stream that would need to be replaced with significantly higher enrollment yields (because some of those "new" students would come as non-full pay so you need more of em).

I really don't think CF lasts that much longer with this model. SOMETHING will emerge to play on Saturday but it is pro-sports with non of the guard rails (free agency restrictions, drafts, salary caps, etc.) designed to maintain competitive balance which is ultimately about keeping fan engagement high.

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sycasey said:

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It is an absolute joke that the transfer portal opens before the postseason is over. Who thought that was a good idea?

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mbBear said:

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socaltownie said:

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jy1988 said:

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Agree 100%. The real solution was to take the money OUT of college sports, not inject more. That would have meant that athletes would not be missing out on revenue sharing-because there would have been no crazy amount of dollars circulating to be missed out on. They get their degrees and free college-that would have been the reward. Anyone who didn't want the academic experience could attend a farm team sponsored by the NFL. And get paid that way.

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It is an interesting model.....

But ultimately it would never have happened. Remember - a big part of this is the artifice of higher education accounting where the $$$ from football goes to the AD....which it turn is "awarded" as a scholarship to an upper middle class kid in a non revenue sport with the hope that they are going to become a future donor....which in turn just flows back (cause the scholarship award winner never sees it) as money into the general fun. Since the marginal costs to educate another student at most of these semi-non selectives is small, this is a great revenue stream that would need to be replaced with significantly higher enrollment yields (because some of those "new" students would come as non-full pay so you need more of em).

I really don't think CF lasts that much longer with this model. SOMETHING will emerge to play on Saturday but it is pro-sports with non of the guard rails (free agency restrictions, drafts, salary caps, etc.) designed to maintain competitive balance which is ultimately about keeping fan engagement high.

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There are a ton of foreign student-athletes on Cal's most successful teams...not sure how that fits into your theory that those playing in the Olympic/non-revenue sports are there to be future donors....

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