He is a polarizing figure, but just writing him off without hearing his side of the story is pretty closed minded. I think he has been villainized by the media because he doesn't fit their narrative. Remember they did that to Marshawn, but he flipped the script on them.

It's a pretty boring PR movie about how "different" he is.

I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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He is a polarizing figure, but just writing him off without hearing his side of the story is pretty closed minded. I think he has been villainized by the media because he doesn't fit their narrative. Remember they did that to Marshawn, but he flipped the script on them.

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I mean, he did mislead the media as to his vaccine status. That led to a distrust and a closer examination of everything he says.

And there was that incident when he called for a female sports journalist to apologize for an article she didn't write, prompting her to get death threats and having to flee her home. Rodgers later revealed he didn't read the article.

Rodgers made sh*t up about another person and refused to apologize. I think we can all agree that that was a sh*tty thing to do.

As for Marshawn, he wouldn't be who he is without the media boosting him up. Have their been a couple issues? Sure. But for the most part, Marshawn has a great, positive reputation because of the media.

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

Rodgers is one of the highest paid players in the NFL and one of the highest paid athletes in the world. Hos net worth is about 200 million. He's also very popular - jersey sales and endorsements and is a guaranteed first round Hall of Fame. Nobody cares about vaccinations anymore. The idea it threatens him is lunacy.

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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Forced injections? Hey Alex Jones, who was forcing you or anyone else to get injections?

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Rodgers is one of the highest paid players in the NFL and one of the highest paid athletes in the world. Hos net worth is about 200 million. He's also very popular - jersey sales and endorsements and is a guaranteed first round Hall of Fame. Nobody cares about vaccinations anymore. The idea it threatens him is lunacy.

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He came off to us a likable, strange dude, who puts himself in a position of having to apologize way too much. If this was a PR attempt, it failed for most people. May be those of us on this board are a little too close. Spent the week with friends (who are not Californians) at a big holiday get together, and when Rodgers' show came-up, everyone basically said his behavior was extremely bizarre at times. Rodgers financial and future Hall of Fame status maybe allow him to do things that he should exercise some impulse control to not do.

The other take away that everyone seemed to have is that his teammates love him, and don't care about his eccentricities. When it comes to football, he is all football, and is a good teammate. Rodgers probably just let his football do the talking for him, as this show leaves him to be ingrained in much of the public's mind as stereotypical California flake.

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Anarchistbear said:

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Rodgers is one of the highest paid players in the NFL and one of the highest paid athletes in the world. Hos net worth is about 200 million. He's also very popular - jersey sales and endorsements and is a guaranteed first round Hall of Fame. Nobody cares about vaccinations anymore. The idea it threatens him is lunacy.

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He came off to us a likable, strange dude, who puts himself in a position of having to apologize way too much. If this was a PR attempt, it failed for most people. May be those of us on this board are a little too close. Spent the week with friends (who are not Californians) at a big holiday get together, and when Rodgers' show came-up, everyone basically said his behavior was extremely bizarre at times. Rodgers financial and future Hall of Fame status maybe allow him to do things that he should exercise some impulse control to not do.

The other take away that everyone seemed to have is that his teammates love him, and don't care about his eccentricities. When it comes to football, he is all football, and is a good teammate. Rodgers probably just let his football do the talking for him, as this show leaves him to be ingrained in much of the public's mind as stereotypical California flake.

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I liked it a lot. Of course my behavior is also pretty bizarre at times. I just wish I had the financial status to get away with the things I shouldn't be doing.

I'm a huge fan, but I think AR needs to have a honest conversation with guys like Brady and Manning about when to retire.

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He is a polarizing figure, but just writing him off without hearing his side of the story is pretty closed minded. I think he has been villainized by the media because he doesn't fit their narrative. Remember they did that to Marshawn, but he flipped the script on them.

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For me, nothing polarizing about it: he can say whatever he wants as long as giving money to Cal is part of his mantra.
Blaming media? Yeah, that has to be it....you gave the "media" credit for his huge contracts too? If only Aaron had the chance to set the "media" straight, but no one will ever have him on!!! Oh right, Pat MacAfee is also a villain...
Real easy to not be villainized: say what you mean, mean what you say. The only flip Marshawn did to "they" is become a better marketer. Not to mention after his legendary run, and Pete not giving him the ball in the Super Bowl, no one was hating on Marshawn.

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No one has him on it because he is not an expert on anything except football. That's why he's on McAfee's show. And when you think airplaine contrails cause cancer, sunscreen causes cancer, and 9/11 was an inside job - chances are you're not going to get invited onto World News Tonight or NBC Nightly News.

As far as Marshawn, well, he doesn't really say the outlandish things that Aaron does, so, its not marketing. Its just, he's not a loon.

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Big C is exactly right on this. The hate for AROD from some Cal fans is primarily based on partisan politics.

Rodgers unconventional thinking/speaking is quintessential Berkeley - if it had a liberal bent his critics here would love it.

We should not have a political or moral litmus test for Cal greats. Arod is at the top of his field (literally an all time great), is a credit to Cal, and has given $$/time to Cal. What else could you want?

And its odd that some (like the post above) have hate for Arod but love for Marshawn. What's worse, not wearing a mask or taking a vaccine or . . . driving drunk? Or being arrested for gun possession? Or glorifying drug use and lots of vulgarities (e.g., the emblematic beast mode crotch grab)?

Don't get me wrong - I appreciate Marshawn, love that he reps Cal, and respect him for football achievements (particularly the work ethic), authenticity, generosity in the community, sense of humor/wit, and many good deeds. I don't have to like everything he does or says to appreciate him. He doesn't need to conform to my social and political preferences to get my support - I appreciate him for what he is and who am I to judge him? And I root for his success in all his endeavors even though I suspect we disagree about lots of things. The important thing is we both love Cal.

We can and should be fans of people we disagree with. Friends too. That is how life is supposed to work.

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Big C is exactly right on this. The hate for AROD from some Cal fans is primarily based on partisan politics.

Rodgers unconventional thinking/speaking is quintessential Berkeley - if it had a liberal bent his critics here would love it.

We should not have a political or moral litmus test for Cal greats. Arod is at the top of his field (literally an all time great), is a credit to Cal, and has given $$/time to Cal. What else could you want?

And its odd that some (like the post above) have hate for Arod but love for Marshawn. What's worse, not wearing a mask or taking a vaccine or . . . driving drunk? Or being arrested for gun possession? Or glorifying drug use and lots of vulgarities (e.g., the emblematic beast mode crotch grab)?

Don't get me wrong - I appreciate Marshawn, love that he reps Cal, and respect him for football achievements (particularly the work ethic), authenticity, generosity in the community, sense of humor/wit, and many good deeds. I don't have to like everything he does or says to appreciate him. He doesn't need to conform to my social and political preferences to get my support - I appreciate him for what he is and who am I to judge him? And I root for his success in all his endeavors even though I suspect we disagree about lots of things. The important thing is we both love Cal.

We can and should be fans of people we disagree with. Friends too. That is how life is supposed to work.

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I feel like you should have left it at driving drunk. That carries weight. But piling on the other weak stuff leaves me feeling like you're kinda doing the same thing you're railing against. Gun was in the trunk, he wasn't hanging out the windows, with his magnum taking out some uhhh opps. As for glorifying drugs, you conveniently left out a whole documentary glorifying ayahuasca trips, pun intended. And the vulgarities, meh, Rodgers drops eff bombs throughout out the doc, sooo, to me, all kinda the same and not really a big deal.

I'm also a little sensitive about the not wearing masks. Living with 2 immunocompromised during covid was very scary and real. Him posing as an expert and trying to convince others of potentially dangerous behavior is also pretty ****ty. But I didn't come to argue these points.

I'll stand by you should have left it at drunk driving, that was enough.

CalConor said:

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Forced injections? Hey Alex Jones, who was forcing you or anyone else to get injections?

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The vax nazis were vax deniers in 2020 but politics eventually won them over.

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philly1121 said:

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mbBear said:

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Grrrrah76 said:

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He is a polarizing figure, but just writing him off without hearing his side of the story is pretty closed minded. I think he has been villainized by the media because he doesn't fit their narrative. Remember they did that to Marshawn, but he flipped the script on them.

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For me, nothing polarizing about it: he can say whatever he wants as long as giving money to Cal is part of his mantra.
Blaming media? Yeah, that has to be it....you gave the "media" credit for his huge contracts too? If only Aaron had the chance to set the "media" straight, but no one will ever have him on!!! Oh right, Pat MacAfee is also a villain...
Real easy to not be villainized: say what you mean, mean what you say. The only flip Marshawn did to "they" is become a better marketer. Not to mention after his legendary run, and Pete not giving him the ball in the Super Bowl, no one was hating on Marshawn.

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No one has him on it because he is not an expert on anything except football. That's why he's on McAfee's show. And when you think airplaine contrails cause cancer, sunscreen causes cancer, and 9/11 was an inside job - chances are you're not going to get invited onto World News Tonight or NBC Nightly News.

As far as Marshawn, well, he doesn't really say the outlandish things that Aaron does, so, its not marketing. Its just, he's not a loon.

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Big C is exactly right on this. The hate for AROD from some Cal fans is primarily based on partisan politics.

Rodgers unconventional thinking/speaking is quintessential Berkeley - if it had a liberal bent his critics here would love it.

We should not have a political or moral litmus test for Cal greats. Arod is at the top of his field (literally an all time great), is a credit to Cal, and has given $$/time to Cal. What else could you want?

And its odd that some (like the post above) have hate for Arod but love for Marshawn. What's worse, not wearing a mask or taking a vaccine or . . . driving drunk? Or being arrested for gun possession? Or glorifying drug use and lots of vulgarities (e.g., the emblematic beast mode crotch grab)?

Don't get me wrong - I appreciate Marshawn, love that he reps Cal, and respect him for football achievements (particularly the work ethic), authenticity, generosity in the community, sense of humor/wit, and many good deeds. I don't have to like everything he does or says to appreciate him. He doesn't need to conform to my social and political preferences to get my support - I appreciate him for what he is and who am I to judge him? And I root for his success in all his endeavors even though I suspect we disagree about lots of things. The important thing is we both love Cal.

We can and should be fans of people we disagree with. Friends too. That is how life is supposed to work.

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No. I responded to a poster asking why Aaron wasn't on "mainstream media" or invited to be on same. "No one will have him on". And I wrote that the media won't have him on (as if that was a thing) because he pushes conspiracy theories. Why would any media outlet have him on for expressing his views on sunscreen? Or 9/11? Why exactly would they do that for an NFL footballer?

No doubt Marshawn has done some bad things. I don't have any excuse for that or any reason to try and defend him. But as I wrote to the poster, the difference is Marshawn isn't espousing conspiracy theories. He's made mistakes. But he's not on TV trying to convince people about how carrying a gun without a permit is unconstitutional. Or how driving drunk is subjective. He sticks to football. Aaron doesn't. He passes himself off as well read and that he's an "insider" - tha the knows solid truths that the general public does not.

I have no doubt that he is a credit to Cal. But at the top of his game? No. A Cal legend? Yes. An NFL legend? Certainly.

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Forced injections? Hey Alex Jones, who was forcing you or anyone else to get injections?

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The vax nazis were vax deniers in 2020 but politics eventually won them over.

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So... that non sequitur is meant to convey that nobody actually forced you or anyone else to get a vaccine? Cool. Thanks.

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?