CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CNHTH said:

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bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

oski003 said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CNHTH said:

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bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CNHTH said:

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bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

BearGoggles said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CNHTH said:

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bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

---

It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

CalConor said:

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BearGoggles said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CNHTH said:

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bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

---

My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

---

It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

BearGoggles said:

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CalConor said:

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BearGoggles said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CNHTH said:

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bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

---

I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

---

My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

---

I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

---

As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

---

It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

---

Who required you to get vaccinated?

---

I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

---

Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

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The FDA approved the vaccines. So you're saying you don't trust the FDA? And please show me some medical proof that your son getting vaccinated was dangerous for him?

CalConor said:

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BearGoggles said:

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CalConor said:

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BearGoggles said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CNHTH said:

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bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

---

My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

---

I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

---

As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

---

It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

---

Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

---

Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

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The FDA approved the vaccines. So you're saying you don't trust the FDA? And please show me some medical proof that your son getting vaccinated was dangerous for him?

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Regulatory capture by big pharma, mostly Pfizer.

oski003 said:

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CalConor said:

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BearGoggles said:

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CalConor said:

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BearGoggles said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CalConor said:

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oski003 said:

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CNHTH said:

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bear2034 said:

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CNHTH said:

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Big C said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

---

My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

---

It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

---

Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

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The FDA approved the vaccines. So you're saying you don't trust the FDA? And please show me some medical proof that your son getting vaccinated was dangerous for him?

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Regulatory capture by big pharma, mostly Pfizer.

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Totally! And chem trails are turning all the frogs gay!

Yes, close to 50% of the FDA funding is from big pharma.

Cal88 said:

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Yes, close to 50% of the FDA funding is from big pharma.

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Wow.

Cal88 said:

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Yes, close to 50% of the FDA funding is from big pharma.

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So if, god forbid, you get cancer, I suppose you'll treat it with ivermectin and cold plunges, right? You know you can't trust big pharma and the FDA

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

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The FDA approved the vaccines. So you're saying you don't trust the FDA? And please show me some medical proof that your son getting vaccinated was dangerous for him?

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Regulatory capture by big pharma, mostly Pfizer.

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Totally! And chem trails are turning all the frogs gay!

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Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

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The FDA approved the vaccines. So you're saying you don't trust the FDA? And please show me some medical proof that your son getting vaccinated was dangerous for him?

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Regulatory capture by big pharma, mostly Pfizer.

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Not only is the vaxx unproven, and hasn't undergone 7 years of close scrutiny, it's not even a vaccine!

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

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The FDA approved the vaccines. So you're saying you don't trust the FDA? And please show me some medical proof that your son getting vaccinated was dangerous for him?

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Regulatory capture by big pharma, mostly Pfizer.

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Not only is the vaxx unproven, and hasn't undergone 7 years of close scrutiny, it's not even a vaccine!

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Sheesh! Did I accidentally stumble onto infowars? lol

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Yes, close to 50% of the FDA funding is from big pharma.

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So if, god forbid, you get cancer, I suppose you'll treat it with ivermectin and cold plunges, right? You know you can't trust big pharma and the FDA

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I wouldn't. However, I would use ivermectin for its intended purposes. I am not personally paid by big pharma to discredit it and call it horse dewormer, just like our FDA was.

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

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It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

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The FDA approved the vaccines. So you're saying you don't trust the FDA? And please show me some medical proof that your son getting vaccinated was dangerous for him?

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Do you realize that the FDA takes drugs off the approval list all the time, in some cases due to massive mistakes (Thalidomide)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_withdrawn_drugs

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-approvals-and-databases/additionsdeletions-prescription-and-otc-drug-product-lists

Are you aware that the WHO does not recommend re-vaccination of healthy adults under 50 or children?

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines/advice

Are you aware that most of Europe does not require COVID vaccination of children? The US/FDA is the outlier here . . . for some reason.

Below are links to some studies showing the risk of vaccination to young adults (particularly male). But the larger is issue is that there was literally no benefit to my son (who already had Covid) in receiving repeated vaccinations. He had virtually no risk of death or serious illness from COVID - full stop - and that was known by 2021. So if you're doing a cost-benefit analysis, there was no reason to force a vax on him.

https://jme.bmj.com/content/50/2/126

Here is a link re Myocardia in Men under 40.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9880674/#eci13947-sec-0016

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9143867/#sec5-vaccines-10-00744 - "the risk of the inflammatory response to COVID-19 vaccines such as myocarditis or pericarditis and MIS was significantly higher in adolescent males than in adults. "

Again - I just took the vax AGAIN. I'm not against the vax. But just because it is right for me doesn't mean everyone else should get it - or be forced to get it.

The FDA's policy is outdated and out of step with the rest of the world. We can speculate why (Big Pharma, politics, entrenched bureaucrats who won't admit they were wrong, etc.), but that is clearly the case.

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Yes, close to 50% of the FDA funding is from big pharma.

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So if, god forbid, you get cancer, I suppose you'll treat it with ivermectin and cold plunges, right? You know you can't trust big pharma and the FDA

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Just continue to do what you've been doing before. The shot obviously saved your life. Don't ask questions, trust and obey. They're there to help you.

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Yes, close to 50% of the FDA funding is from big pharma.

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So if, god forbid, you get cancer, I suppose you'll treat it with ivermectin and cold plunges, right? You know you can't trust big pharma and the FDA

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I wouldn't. However, I would use ivermectin for its intended purposes. I am not personally paid by big pharma to discredit it and call it horse dewormer, just like our FDA was.

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So sometimes you can trust the FDA? I guess you do your own medical trials to figure out which meds are good and which ones are intentionally trying to kill us? What's the process there? Maybe just wait to see how Joe Rogan comes out on it?

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Please see BearGoggles response. Thanks.

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I thought it was very entertaining. Aaron is "different" than most nfl players and stars in general. I like that he uses his brain and questions things.

I don't get all the hate for the guy. He lives his life. He's one of the greatest QBs and competitors the NFl has ever seen. Much respect.

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I am an AR fan. Doesn't mean I necessarily like everything he says, but so what? Yes, I like the fact that he is an "independent" thinker. He may be misguided about some things, but who the heck isn't?

"The hate" is from people who think they are never misguided and put partisan politics above everything. It gets tiring.

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My personal distrust of him is due to his not wearing a mask when he knew he wasn't vaccinated or "immunized"…
It's not a political issue it was a public health issue. I lost a member of my immediate family to Covid and I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to isolate / wear a mask. I don't care if they don't want to be vaccinated that's fine but when someone refuses to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic that caused over a million deaths it says a lot about the character of that person. Same goes for Newsom and same goes for RFK jr and anyone else who would have been ostracized (and rightfully so) as a "slacker" during the Spanish flu.

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I have zero tolerance for forced injections of experimental vaccines.

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As I said in my reply that's fine and dandy as I myself don't trust them either. But with that choice comes the responsibility of not going into a crowded press room and not wearing a mask when the requirement to be in that room is either being vaccinated or wearing a mask. It's irresponsible selfish behavior no way around it.

---

It was ludicrous to require folks to be vaccinated if they had already recently had covid. That is just nonsensical.

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Who required you to get vaccinated?

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I don't play in the NFL. However, my employer, based on CDC guidelines would force anyone unvaccinated out of work for weeks if anyone working near them for more than a few minutes a day got covid. If you were vaccinated, you wouldn't miss any work. There was similar policies at my kids' schools. There is a reason many pro athletes bought fake vaccine passports.

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Your employer wanted unvaccinated people to stay out of the office after coming in contact with the virus that was causing a global pandemic? Just to be clear, you didn't lose your job for not not getting vaccinated? Nobody forced the shot on you, right? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a hardship.

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Wait - are we really pretending like many, many, many people weren't forced to be vaxxed or coerced with massive consequences if they didn't?

Pretty much every college student was forced to get vaxed even if they had recently had covid. My son, who was a college student and has congenital heart issues, was forced to get vaxed multiple times even though he had caught covid in October 2020. He asked for an exemption and was denied by his school (not Cal).

We shouldn't turn this into a vax thread. But let's be honest as to how these things went down.

And just to be clear, I'm very pro-vax and literally just got a COVID shot 2 weeks ago because based on my age, health profile, doctor's advice, and personal research, I thought it was the right thing to do. It doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to do the same.

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Your son presumably went to public school, correct? So your son was also forced to get countless other vaccines in order to attend his school, right? Did you also find that outrageous?

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He actually went to a private college but public schools before college.

Do you understand that there's a difference between vaccines with proven trials and brand new vaccines that have not been tested and have been approved on an emergency basis? new vaccines being forced upon an age group (healthy adults under 25) where there was virtually no COVID health risk and, as such, not much benefit to the vax?

Do you realize that in hindsight, for my son, getting the vax multiple times was the more dangerous thing to do for his health? That is now a proven fact yet, at the time, it was blasphemy to even raise that as a question.

Both my children received the normal childhood vax regimens, though I suppose we could have claimed medical or religious exemptions if we had any (for school purposes). There were some vaccines (eg HPV) that were not mandatory and we as a family made a medical decision about.

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The FDA approved the vaccines. So you're saying you don't trust the FDA? And please show me some medical proof that your son getting vaccinated was dangerous for him?

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This is not a comment on youngsters taking vaccines, but is a comment on the FDA process. I also got and continue get vaccinated.

That said, we should be aware that the FDA rushed the approval process to accommodate timetables demanded by the Trump and Biden administrations which led to considerable controversy. There still are Congressional Committees that are examining claims that the FDA disregarded many warnings, dismissed the scientists who brought forward their concerns, and went forward with the accelerated approval process demanded by the executive branch. That said, despite the FDA process, I have not heard that C-19 vaccines have presented any long term problems beyond those of other approved and commonly used vaccines.

The fastest vaccine in historyUCLA Healthhttps://www.uclahealth.org news article the-fastest...

Also neither I ,nor anyone I know who watched the show, view Rodgers as a flake for his views on vaccinations. Heck there are a ton of housewives in trendy West LA who are against vaccinations. It was the weirdness for going some place in rural Oregon to be entirely in the dark for days to make football decisions. It is the ayahuasca retreats in Costa Rica, smoking a giant pipe, downing a brownish liquid that looks like mud water, dancing, playing the bongos and describing the metamorphosis of a caterpillar to a butterfly while stoned out of his gourd. It is self-professed perfectionist who struggles with that, but then seems to do a lot of stuff without perfection and marking up excuses for not achieving perfection (ie..g, the Packers having great regular seasons and losing to underdogs in postseason). He also seems to get a lot self-love down is Costa Rica by holding hands with a hot girl (which makes him seem less flakey I suppose). Great TV but not a great way to make the rest of us think you're just another normal guy Aaron.

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Forced injections? Hey Alex Jones, who was forcing you or anyone else to get injections?

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The vax nazis were vax deniers in 2020 but politics eventually won them over.

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So... that non sequitur is meant to convey that nobody actually forced you or anyone else to get a vaccine? Cool. Thanks.

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Nobody but the Biden Administration

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Yes, close to 50% of the FDA funding is from big pharma.

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So if, god forbid, you get cancer, I suppose you'll treat it with ivermectin and cold plunges, right? You know you can't trust big pharma and the FDA

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Are you purposely missing the point?