If things go mediocre this year and we end at .500 or below and Cal moves on from JW, who would we want to take over next? Who can we afford? Who wants to coach Cal? Off the top of my head, here are a few options:

1. Ron Rivera (is he happier being a CEO type GM?)
2. Rolovich (too much baggage from his WSU exit?)
3. Troy Taylor (too much baggage from his Stanfurd exit?)
4. John Gruden (too much baggage from his NFL exit?)
5. Brennan Marion (HC at Sac State)
6. Tashard Choice (RB coach, Detroit Lions/no HC experience)
7. Matt Entz (HC at Fresno State)
8. Hugh Jackson (California guy, previously coached at Cal)



Who else?

Ryan Grubb would be near the top of my list

Grubb is a solid candidate

Marshawn or DJax

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ac_green33 said:

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If Marion didn't run a gimmicky offense he would be perfect. We need a marketable, big personality --especially because you can't get attached to players anymore.

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Bingo re player attachment, and that, apparently, was a big reason why those rb's left - the new "toughness" theme seems not to be their idea of "family."

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Yeah maybe, I have no idea what's actually true or not. But regardless, if you can't count on players to stick around for more than a portal cycle something has to be the draw. And there are two options - winning, or a Deion type (ideally both).

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If things go mediocre this year and we end at .500 or below and Cal moves on from JW, who would we want to take over next? Who can we afford? Who wants to coach Cal? Off the top of my head, here are a few options:

1. Ron Rivera (is he happier being a CEO type GM?)
2. Rolovich (too much baggage from his WSU exit?)
3. Troy Taylor (too much baggage from his Stanfurd exit?)
4. John Gruden (too much baggage from his NFL exit?)
5. Brennan Marion (HC at Sac State)
6. Tashard Choice (RB coach, Detroit Lions/no HC experience)
7. Matt Entz (HC at Fresno State)
8. Hugh Jackson (California guy, previously coached at Cal)



Who else?

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Please no.

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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I am wary of another Cal or Cal-like guy. If we want to get with modern college football, we need to have a program administrated like a regular college football program is elsewhere. I think Grubb would be great or D'Anton Lynn.

If we want to go out of the box, then get Jeff Monken.

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"Another"? Are you referring to Mike White and Joe Kapp?

Wilcox is not a "Cal guy" he is an Oregon guy (just pre-Nike), from an Oregon family who grew up in Eastern Otegon. In his 9 years at Cal he has surrounded himself with mostly friends from the Pacific Northwest.

He is not a "Cal guy."

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I think he's a "Cal-like" guy, in that he very much fits Cal's "vibe" and what the donor class expects demeanor wise. I just don't like our inherent bias toward Cal guys to begin with, unless that guy's had decent success at a P2 program.

The only guy that fits that mold that is a Cal guy isn't going to coach here because he's really a glorified recruiter more than anything .

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Marshawn or DJax

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Coaching is alot more. DJ has one year of assistant coaching at LB Wilson HS and is now HC at Delaware State.

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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I am wary of another Cal or Cal-like guy. If we want to get with modern college football, we need to have a program administrated like a regular college football program is elsewhere. I think Grubb would be great or D'Anton Lynn.

If we want to go out of the box, then get Jeff Monken.

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"Another"? Are you referring to Mike White and Joe Kapp?

Wilcox is not a "Cal guy" he is an Oregon guy (just pre-Nike), from an Oregon family who grew up in Eastern Otegon. In his 9 years at Cal he has surrounded himself with mostly friends from the Pacific Northwest.

He is not a "Cal guy."

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His family lived right on the border between Greater Idaho and The State of Jefferson.

Chucky all the way.

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Bobodeluxe said:

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calumnus said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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I am wary of another Cal or Cal-like guy. If we want to get with modern college football, we need to have a program administrated like a regular college football program is elsewhere. I think Grubb would be great or D'Anton Lynn.

If we want to go out of the box, then get Jeff Monken.

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"Another"? Are you referring to Mike White and Joe Kapp?

Wilcox is not a "Cal guy" he is an Oregon guy (just pre-Nike), from an Oregon family who grew up in Eastern Otegon. In his 9 years at Cal he has surrounded himself with mostly friends from the Pacific Northwest.

He is not a "Cal guy."

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His family lived right on the border between Greater Idaho and The State of Jefferson.

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Justin grew up in Junction City. About 20 minutes directly north of Eugene in the Willamette Valley.
That's not eastern Oregon.

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Yeah, that is western Oregon. He grew up on a farm in western Oregon. Still a Duck,

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Alkiadt said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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calumnus said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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I am wary of another Cal or Cal-like guy. If we want to get with modern college football, we need to have a program administrated like a regular college football program is elsewhere. I think Grubb would be great or D'Anton Lynn.

If we want to go out of the box, then get Jeff Monken.

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"Another"? Are you referring to Mike White and Joe Kapp?

Wilcox is not a "Cal guy" he is an Oregon guy (just pre-Nike), from an Oregon family who grew up in Eastern Otegon. In his 9 years at Cal he has surrounded himself with mostly friends from the Pacific Northwest.

He is not a "Cal guy."

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His family lived right on the border between Greater Idaho and The State of Jefferson.

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Justin grew up in Junction City. About 20 minutes directly north of Eugene in the Willamette Valley.
That's not eastern Oregon.

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Yeah, that is western Oregon. He grew up on a farm in western Oregon. Still a Duck,

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Bruce Snyder was a Duck. Kevin Parker and Ron Gould were ducks. What's your point?

Alkiadt said:

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calumnus said:

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Alkiadt said:

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Bobodeluxe said:

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calumnus said:

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eastbayyoungbear said:

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I am wary of another Cal or Cal-like guy. If we want to get with modern college football, we need to have a program administrated like a regular college football program is elsewhere. I think Grubb would be great or D'Anton Lynn.

If we want to go out of the box, then get Jeff Monken.

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"Another"? Are you referring to Mike White and Joe Kapp?

Wilcox is not a "Cal guy" he is an Oregon guy (just pre-Nike), from an Oregon family who grew up in Eastern Otegon. In his 9 years at Cal he has surrounded himself with mostly friends from the Pacific Northwest.

He is not a "Cal guy."

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His family lived right on the border between Greater Idaho and The State of Jefferson.

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Justin grew up in Junction City. About 20 minutes directly north of Eugene in the Willamette Valley.
That's not eastern Oregon.

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Yeah, that is western Oregon. He grew up on a farm in western Oregon. Still a Duck,

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Bruce Snyder was a Duck. Kevin Parker and Ron Gould were ducks. What's your point?

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I was responding to a post essentially saying "no more Cal guys" implying Wilcox is "a Cal guy" which would preclude Rivera or Taylor. I disagree that Wilcox is a Cal guy and I disagree that actual Cal guys should be precluded just because they are Cal guys.

The advantage of a Cal guy like Rivera is that he is here for a lot less than he could make elsewhere just because he is a Cal guy and loves Cal. Given our financial circumstances that is a huge plus. Doesn't mean the next coach couldn't be another Duck if they were the best candidate. A young charismatic, offensive minded coach would be better long term. A Cal guy might be advantageous because there is less chance he would leave if successful, but being successful is most important.

I mean we can quibble about what a "Cal guy" entails since he went to nikeU but he was on staff with Tedford so he did have a Cal history regardless of whether that qualified him as a Cal guy. Tbh regardless of his playing career I always saw him as more of a Boise State guy based on his coaching career and his connection hires

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I like the Taylor idea and don't believe the 'furd BS for a second. I'd have to review the Sac State coaching team he had - maybe he is good at picking assistants or something.

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Too much baggage post Furd. Too bad.

DonnieMcCleskey said:

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bipolarbear said:

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MilleniaBear said:

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I like the Taylor idea and don't believe the 'furd BS for a second. I'd have to review the Sac State coaching team he had - maybe he is good at picking assistants or something.

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Too much baggage post Furd. Too bad.

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Who cares about the baggage. The guy went 6-18 in 2 seasons at Stanford. That should immediately disqualify him. He wouldn't be anywhere near our radar without the Cal connection.

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Furd is not equipped for the Portal era. Other than "The Glove" suddenly not working when they parted ways with the S&C guy Harbaugh brought in, there was a dramatic drop from when they were winning the PAC-12 and going to multiple BCS games under Shaw, then Shaw getting fired.

Still, there was enough there to throw cold water on Taylor as a "hot commodity." The only advantage is he would come to Cal for very cheap and might possibly still be the great coach we thought he might be.

If we are determined to try to boost Wilcox and play out his contract (and it looks like we are), I'd rather go with a younger, more charismatic, up and coming candidate at that time (after the 2026 season assuming he has a winnning record in 2025?).

Am I the only one who thought this thread was started by a troll and wasn't worth responding to? I mean, nice handle, but...