Rushinbear said:

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6956bear said:

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Goobear said:

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calumnus said:

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Wilcox's only win over the Beavers in Corvallis was back in 2018, 7 years ago. Other than Stanford, Oregon State is now far and away Cal's longest running continuous series.

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I was there my son's last Beaver away game. Things have changed for the Beavers tremendously but folks seem to ignore that.

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No doubt things have changed tremendously for OSU. But this is not the same Cal team that demolished a severely injured Beavers team last year 44-7. Cal will start a new OL (likely all 5) a new QB, a new TE, at least 1 and maybe 2 Wrs. A new DE/OLB in place of Carlton, a new ILB and 5 new starters at DB. A new punter, pk and long snapper. And this will all occur on the road. And they are breaking in a new DC and OC albeit the OC has a long track record and likely won't shrink in crucial moments.

I do think Cal has a better roster. But first games (especially on the road) are often tricky and sloppy. And despite how much the Beavers have changed the prognosticators have pegged them the favorite (3 pts) . That is likely due to being at home.

So sure OSU no longer is a P4 program. But few outside the Cal faithful feel the Bears have upgraded much if at all. In fact more feel Cal went backwards in terms of talent. And they lack experience at QB which can be a big difference maker.

I like the Bears to win, but I must say I am not overly confident they will do so. This is a crucially important game for Cal. It is as close to a must win as any opening game can be for Cal.

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I see 3 new starters on the OL and an upgrade in the OL coach. Can the other 3 replacements be worse than last year's? Our new QB is mature, at least, and has shown game management ability with a potential star in the wings. Returning starter at WR and talented newcomers (who can/will block) may be all we need. We ought to be able to find at least one good RB out of the four and they're all bigger and stronger.

DL will be at least as good as last year, as will LBs. DBs are the concern with only one returnee (a good one). But, there's depth there, as there is throughout the D.

How in the world did that QB end up at OSU? There's more to that story. In any event, their OL is gonna have a time trying to protect him. Where else have they improved over last year? I don't see it.

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Bearly Clad said:

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This thread is hilarious....not because anyone is right or wrong, only just how we as fans are so eternally optimistic. We, as Beaver fans, see this as a must win game, and really, not to offend, I expect Beavs win this, hopefully fairly easily. My gut tells me OSU wins, but first game of season and all, who knows. With our schedule, I see two for sure losses....this isn't one of them. check out Bennyshouse for more... Hope to see some Cal fans at the game, should be a packed house....revenge on our mind for last year's debacle.

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I'd probably mostly feel the same if I was an OSU fan; maybe not the "expect to win" but that it was a tossup at worst. From a Cal perspective this game is a must-win. Not because OSU is that bad but given their quality compared to our other opponents they're right on par with about half of them.

If we lose to you guys it means we're probably about .500 at best this year and that signal disaster for the coaching staff and trigger a rebuild. And if you win "fairly easily" then we're in for a hellish season. So yea, either team *could* win and either team you see as slight favorites I wouldn't fight you on it but from our perspective it's as make-or-break as a first game can be; again, that's our context and no disrespect to OSU

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Chabbear said:

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Rushinbear said:

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6956bear said:

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Goobear said:

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Wilcox's only win over the Beavers in Corvallis was back in 2018, 7 years ago. Other than Stanford, Oregon State is now far and away Cal's longest running continuous series.

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I was there my son's last Beaver away game. Things have changed for the Beavers tremendously but folks seem to ignore that.

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No doubt things have changed tremendously for OSU. But this is not the same Cal team that demolished a severely injured Beavers team last year 44-7. Cal will start a new OL (likely all 5) a new QB, a new TE, at least 1 and maybe 2 Wrs. A new DE/OLB in place of Carlton, a new ILB and 5 new starters at DB. A new punter, pk and long snapper. And this will all occur on the road. And they are breaking in a new DC and OC albeit the OC has a long track record and likely won't shrink in crucial moments.

I do think Cal has a better roster. But first games (especially on the road) are often tricky and sloppy. And despite how much the Beavers have changed the prognosticators have pegged them the favorite (3 pts) . That is likely due to being at home.

So sure OSU no longer is a P4 program. But few outside the Cal faithful feel the Bears have upgraded much if at all. In fact more feel Cal went backwards in terms of talent. And they lack experience at QB which can be a big difference maker.

I like the Bears to win, but I must say I am not overly confident they will do so. This is a crucially important game for Cal. It is as close to a must win as any opening game can be for Cal.

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I see 3 new starters on the OL and an upgrade in the OL coach. Can the other 3 replacements be worse than last year's? Our new QB is mature, at least, and has shown game management ability with a potential star in the wings. Returning starter at WR and talented newcomers (who can/will block) may be all we need. We ought to be able to find at least one good RB out of the four and they're all bigger and stronger.

DL will be at least as good as last year, as will LBs. DBs are the concern with only one returnee (a good one). But, there's depth there, as there is throughout the D.

How in the world did that QB end up at OSU? There's more to that story. In any event, their OL is gonna have a time trying to protect him. Where else have they improved over last year? I don't see it.

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Duke brought in a QB with a $4m a year NIL deal. He had to go somewhere.

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Goobear said:

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Cal fans here have bountiful angst…..Assume all games will be lost so you can be pleasantly surprised when Cal wins games…

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Rushinbear said:

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Chabbear said:

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Rushinbear said:

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6956bear said:

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Goobear said:

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calumnus said:

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Wilcox's only win over the Beavers in Corvallis was back in 2018, 7 years ago. Other than Stanford, Oregon State is now far and away Cal's longest running continuous series.

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I was there my son's last Beaver away game. Things have changed for the Beavers tremendously but folks seem to ignore that.

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No doubt things have changed tremendously for OSU. But this is not the same Cal team that demolished a severely injured Beavers team last year 44-7. Cal will start a new OL (likely all 5) a new QB, a new TE, at least 1 and maybe 2 Wrs. A new DE/OLB in place of Carlton, a new ILB and 5 new starters at DB. A new punter, pk and long snapper. And this will all occur on the road. And they are breaking in a new DC and OC albeit the OC has a long track record and likely won't shrink in crucial moments.

I do think Cal has a better roster. But first games (especially on the road) are often tricky and sloppy. And despite how much the Beavers have changed the prognosticators have pegged them the favorite (3 pts) . That is likely due to being at home.

So sure OSU no longer is a P4 program. But few outside the Cal faithful feel the Bears have upgraded much if at all. In fact more feel Cal went backwards in terms of talent. And they lack experience at QB which can be a big difference maker.

I like the Bears to win, but I must say I am not overly confident they will do so. This is a crucially important game for Cal. It is as close to a must win as any opening game can be for Cal.

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I see 3 new starters on the OL and an upgrade in the OL coach. Can the other 3 replacements be worse than last year's? Our new QB is mature, at least, and has shown game management ability with a potential star in the wings. Returning starter at WR and talented newcomers (who can/will block) may be all we need. We ought to be able to find at least one good RB out of the four and they're all bigger and stronger.

DL will be at least as good as last year, as will LBs. DBs are the concern with only one returnee (a good one). But, there's depth there, as there is throughout the D.

How in the world did that QB end up at OSU? There's more to that story. In any event, their OL is gonna have a time trying to protect him. Where else have they improved over last year? I don't see it.

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Duke brought in a QB with a $4m a year NIL deal. He had to go somewhere.

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but OSU, of all places? And, if he did so well at Duke, wouldn't they have spent the money in other places? Maybe they know something that OSU doesn't or does, but rolled the dice?

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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I can't even think of the last time we lost to Cal at home....maybe when Aaron Rodgers was there????

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sycasey said:

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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I can't even think of the last time we lost to Cal at home....maybe when Aaron Rodgers was there????

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2018

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2018-10-20-oregon-state.html

A very bad OSU team that year.

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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I can't even think of the last time we lost to Cal at home....maybe when Aaron Rodgers was there????

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2018

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2018-10-20-oregon-state.html

A very bad OSU team that year.

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Yep. Aaron Rodgers' last year at Cal was 2004.

Since then, Oregon State is 6-3 against Cal at Corvallis, with the Bears winning in:

2006: 41-13
2014: 45-31
2018: 49-7

6-4 for the Beavers against the Bears for the last 10 in Corvallis if you count 2004 with Aaron Rodgers, with Cal also winning 49-7 that year.

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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Hey gentlemen, sorry for late reply..... I enjoyed the colorful responses. . First off, Beaver fans aren't MAD at Cal.... The Bears are my second favorite team. I think many of us just think it didn't make sense for Cal and Stanford to go to the ACC economically, and yeah we wish you had stuck with us to start back up what could have been a more solid foundation of the conference. That said, I think this whole thing implodes in a year or two anyhow, and I think we all just need to stay relevant. Both Cal AND OSU.

Beavs have a solid coaching staff, and added a bunch more players, only losing a handful of critical ones from last season. Picked up some solid players in the portal. QB play will be vastly improved.... I admit I'm a little concerned with offensive line protecting him. My Cal friends and family though that I do communicate with seem pretty down on Cal's talent level. Most the Cal team that destroyed us last year is gone. I can't even think of the last time we lost to Cal at home....maybe when Aaron Rodgers was there????

I'm a fan, sure, so maybe full of it, but I know our fan base sees this as an ABSOLUTE must win. some are talking about a 10-2 season (schedule is not strong)..... one thing that hurt since I made the original post was we lost one of our top receivers to injury, Darius Clemons. So you catch a break there.

College football is a crap fest these days.. part of me wants to boycott it altogether, but sorry sap that I am, I'll be there. If any of you reasonable fans are making the trip up, I am connected to a couple kick ass tailgaters- send me a message and prolly meet and hook ya up. Cheers, go Beavs!

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My only time at Reser was a "Sonny Dykes special" loss, 47-44 in 2016. So, 9 years ago, long before the realignment mess. Nothing but great vibes and hospitality from Beaver fans/tailgates pre-game. However, this was the last time I sat in anything but the Cal visitors seats anywhere else at road games. Once the game started the "vibe" for us as visiting team fans among OSU fans was decidedly "walking-on-eggshells" even back then, with confrontations just waiting to happen. Given the warm reception we experienced pre-game and that Beaverdreams offers, my feeling has always been that, during the game, this was the aforementioned "boonies" element, but admittedly a small and individual sampling. I probably will not make the trip down there this year but nevertheless, if we happen to win convincingly on their field, it being a "must-win" for them too, I wouldn't expect it to be very comfortable for Cal fans afterward.

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Sorry to hear that....but I think this is largely true in most any stadium, esp with the younger fans. Autzen is by far the worst of any stadium around, even the Coliseum, which says a lot. I know down in Berkeley last year a few Cal fans let me have it. Whatever.....little do they know I've watched more Cal games in Memorial than they will in their lifetimes. I mean, please child, tell me how many here actually were AT the 82 Big Game? Granted I was 10 years old........but I was there.

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bearister said:

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I got the Bears and 2.5 pts and am wagering these t shirts and one meme coin.

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DoubtfulBear said:

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Sunshine pumpers will find a reason for optimism, even if we start 0-4

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72CalBear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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Sunshine pumpers will find a reason for optimism, even if we start 0-4

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Some of us who graduated from Cal, played and coached football, don't give up on the players even when the team itself does poorly. I am neither overly optimistic or dreading another losing season. Want the best for the players, their families, and their future. Can you tell I'm 75?

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Big C said:

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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kirklandblue said:

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My only time at Reser was a "Sonny Dykes special" loss, 47-44 in 2016. So, 9 years ago, long before the realignment mess. Nothing but great vibes and hospitality from Beaver fans/tailgates pre-game. However, this was the last time I sat in anything but the Cal visitors seats anywhere else at road games. Once the game started the "vibe" for us as visiting team fans among OSU fans was decidedly "walking-on-eggshells" even back then, with confrontations just waiting to happen. Given the warm reception we experienced pre-game and that Beaverdreams offers, my feeling has always been that, during the game, this was the aforementioned "boonies" element, but admittedly a small and individual sampling. I probably will not make the trip down there this year but nevertheless, if we happen to win convincingly on their field, it being a "must-win" for them too, I wouldn't expect it to be very comfortable for Cal fans afterward.

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Sorry to hear that....but I think this is largely true in most any stadium, esp with the younger fans. Autzen is by far the worst of any stadium around, even the Coliseum, which says a lot. I know down in Berkeley last year a few Cal fans let me have it. Whatever.....little do they know I've watched more Cal games in Memorial than they will in their lifetimes. I mean, please child, tell me how many here actually were AT the 82 Big Game? Granted I was 10 years old........but I was there.

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FYI, I can vouch for the fact that Beaverdreams2 does like Cal, does have big-time Cal in his family and did grow up going to Cal games, before going to Oregon State. Respect.

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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Big C said:

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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kirklandblue said:

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My only time at Reser was a "Sonny Dykes special" loss, 47-44 in 2016. So, 9 years ago, long before the realignment mess. Nothing but great vibes and hospitality from Beaver fans/tailgates pre-game. However, this was the last time I sat in anything but the Cal visitors seats anywhere else at road games. Once the game started the "vibe" for us as visiting team fans among OSU fans was decidedly "walking-on-eggshells" even back then, with confrontations just waiting to happen. Given the warm reception we experienced pre-game and that Beaverdreams offers, my feeling has always been that, during the game, this was the aforementioned "boonies" element, but admittedly a small and individual sampling. I probably will not make the trip down there this year but nevertheless, if we happen to win convincingly on their field, it being a "must-win" for them too, I wouldn't expect it to be very comfortable for Cal fans afterward.

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Sorry to hear that....but I think this is largely true in most any stadium, esp with the younger fans. Autzen is by far the worst of any stadium around, even the Coliseum, which says a lot. I know down in Berkeley last year a few Cal fans let me have it. Whatever.....little do they know I've watched more Cal games in Memorial than they will in their lifetimes. I mean, please child, tell me how many here actually were AT the 82 Big Game? Granted I was 10 years old........but I was there.

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FYI, I can vouch for the fact that Beaverdreams2 does like Cal, does have big-time Cal in his family and did grow up going to Cal games, before going to Oregon State. Respect.

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Thanks Big C. Methinks you know who my brother was.... I forgive most the posters on here except Ducky23...that guy is a tool clearly. Closet Duck fan obviously. My brother, RIP, I'm quite sure was as much a Bear fan or more than anyone on here, easily Dork23. He always used to say, "if you want to know who true Cal football fans, ask 'em to name 10 Cal qbs on the spot, no googling. I know I can, can you?

We are fans...we all say crazy things. OSU looks to be improved.....honestly, if the game was at Cal, I'd pick Cal to win, but being our opener in Corvallis, with so much talk by the players of wanting this win bad after what happened last year, I just have a hunch Beavs get it done.

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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Big C said:

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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kirklandblue said:

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My only time at Reser was a "Sonny Dykes special" loss, 47-44 in 2016. So, 9 years ago, long before the realignment mess. Nothing but great vibes and hospitality from Beaver fans/tailgates pre-game. However, this was the last time I sat in anything but the Cal visitors seats anywhere else at road games. Once the game started the "vibe" for us as visiting team fans among OSU fans was decidedly "walking-on-eggshells" even back then, with confrontations just waiting to happen. Given the warm reception we experienced pre-game and that Beaverdreams offers, my feeling has always been that, during the game, this was the aforementioned "boonies" element, but admittedly a small and individual sampling. I probably will not make the trip down there this year but nevertheless, if we happen to win convincingly on their field, it being a "must-win" for them too, I wouldn't expect it to be very comfortable for Cal fans afterward.

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Sorry to hear that....but I think this is largely true in most any stadium, esp with the younger fans. Autzen is by far the worst of any stadium around, even the Coliseum, which says a lot. I know down in Berkeley last year a few Cal fans let me have it. Whatever.....little do they know I've watched more Cal games in Memorial than they will in their lifetimes. I mean, please child, tell me how many here actually were AT the 82 Big Game? Granted I was 10 years old........but I was there.

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FYI, I can vouch for the fact that Beaverdreams2 does like Cal, does have big-time Cal in his family and did grow up going to Cal games, before going to Oregon State. Respect.

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Thanks Big C. Methinks you know who my brother was.... I forgive most the posters on here except Ducky23...that guy is a tool clearly. Closet Duck fan obviously. My brother, RIP, I'm quite sure was as much a Bear fan or more than anyone on here, easily Dork23. He always used to say, "if you want to know who true Cal football fans, ask 'em to name 10 Cal qbs on the spot, no googling. I know I can, can you?

We are fans...we all say crazy things. OSU looks to be improved.....honestly, if the game was at Cal, I'd pick Cal to win, but being our opener in Corvallis, with so much talk by the players of wanting this win bad after what happened last year, I just have a hunch Beavs get it done.

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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Big C said:

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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kirklandblue said:

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My only time at Reser was a "Sonny Dykes special" loss, 47-44 in 2016. So, 9 years ago, long before the realignment mess. Nothing but great vibes and hospitality from Beaver fans/tailgates pre-game. However, this was the last time I sat in anything but the Cal visitors seats anywhere else at road games. Once the game started the "vibe" for us as visiting team fans among OSU fans was decidedly "walking-on-eggshells" even back then, with confrontations just waiting to happen. Given the warm reception we experienced pre-game and that Beaverdreams offers, my feeling has always been that, during the game, this was the aforementioned "boonies" element, but admittedly a small and individual sampling. I probably will not make the trip down there this year but nevertheless, if we happen to win convincingly on their field, it being a "must-win" for them too, I wouldn't expect it to be very comfortable for Cal fans afterward.

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Sorry to hear that....but I think this is largely true in most any stadium, esp with the younger fans. Autzen is by far the worst of any stadium around, even the Coliseum, which says a lot. I know down in Berkeley last year a few Cal fans let me have it. Whatever.....little do they know I've watched more Cal games in Memorial than they will in their lifetimes. I mean, please child, tell me how many here actually were AT the 82 Big Game? Granted I was 10 years old........but I was there.

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FYI, I can vouch for the fact that Beaverdreams2 does like Cal, does have big-time Cal in his family and did grow up going to Cal games, before going to Oregon State. Respect.

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Thanks Big C. Methinks you know who my brother was.... I forgive most the posters on here except Ducky23...that guy is a tool clearly. Closet Duck fan obviously. My brother, RIP, I'm quite sure was as much a Bear fan or more than anyone on here, easily Dork23. He always used to say, "if you want to know who true Cal football fans, ask 'em to name 10 Cal qbs on the spot, no googling. I know I can, can you?

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NVBear78 said:

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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Hey gentlemen, sorry for late reply..... I enjoyed the colorful responses. . First off, Beaver fans aren't MAD at Cal.... The Bears are my second favorite team. I think many of us just think it didn't make sense for Cal and Stanford to go to the ACC economically, and yeah we wish you had stuck with us to start back up what could have been a more solid foundation of the conference. That said, I think this whole thing implodes in a year or two anyhow, and I think we all just need to stay relevant. Both Cal AND OSU.

Beavs have a solid coaching staff, and added a bunch more players, only losing a handful of critical ones from last season. Picked up some solid players in the portal. QB play will be vastly improved.... I admit I'm a little concerned with offensive line protecting him. My Cal friends and family though that I do communicate with seem pretty down on Cal's talent level. Most the Cal team that destroyed us last year is gone. I can't even think of the last time we lost to Cal at home....maybe when Aaron Rodgers was there????

I'm a fan, sure, so maybe full of it, but I know our fan base sees this as an ABSOLUTE must win. some are talking about a 10-2 season (schedule is not strong)..... one thing that hurt since I made the original post was we lost one of our top receivers to injury, Darius Clemons. So you catch a break there.

College football is a crap fest these days.. part of me wants to boycott it altogether, but sorry sap that I am, I'll be there. If any of you reasonable fans are making the trip up, I am connected to a couple kick ass tailgaters- send me a message and prolly meet and hook ya up. Cheers, go Beavs!

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Appreciate your response but how could the Beaver fans be expecting a 10 win season? Where did you improve other than QB? Is your OL worse…or better thisbyear and why?

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oskidunker said:

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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Big C said:

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Beaverdreams2 said:

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kirklandblue said:

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My only time at Reser was a "Sonny Dykes special" loss, 47-44 in 2016. So, 9 years ago, long before the realignment mess. Nothing but great vibes and hospitality from Beaver fans/tailgates pre-game. However, this was the last time I sat in anything but the Cal visitors seats anywhere else at road games. Once the game started the "vibe" for us as visiting team fans among OSU fans was decidedly "walking-on-eggshells" even back then, with confrontations just waiting to happen. Given the warm reception we experienced pre-game and that Beaverdreams offers, my feeling has always been that, during the game, this was the aforementioned "boonies" element, but admittedly a small and individual sampling. I probably will not make the trip down there this year but nevertheless, if we happen to win convincingly on their field, it being a "must-win" for them too, I wouldn't expect it to be very comfortable for Cal fans afterward.

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Sorry to hear that....but I think this is largely true in most any stadium, esp with the younger fans. Autzen is by far the worst of any stadium around, even the Coliseum, which says a lot. I know down in Berkeley last year a few Cal fans let me have it. Whatever.....little do they know I've watched more Cal games in Memorial than they will in their lifetimes. I mean, please child, tell me how many here actually were AT the 82 Big Game? Granted I was 10 years old........but I was there.

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FYI, I can vouch for the fact that Beaverdreams2 does like Cal, does have big-time Cal in his family and did grow up going to Cal games, before going to Oregon State. Respect.

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Thanks Big C. Methinks you know who my brother was.... I forgive most the posters on here except Ducky23...that guy is a tool clearly. Closet Duck fan obviously. My brother, RIP, I'm quite sure was as much a Bear fan or more than anyone on here, easily Dork23. He always used to say, "if you want to know who true Cal football fans, ask 'em to name 10 Cal qbs on the spot, no googling. I know I can, can you?

We are fans...we all say crazy things. OSU looks to be improved.....honestly, if the game was at Cal, I'd pick Cal to win, but being our opener in Corvallis, with so much talk by the players of wanting this win bad after what happened last year, I just have a hunch Beavs get it done.

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