The idea was described to me as 7 spots for Big Ten, 7 spots for SEC, 5 for ACC, 5 for Big 12, 2 G5, 2 at-large. First two rounds would be played on campuses. First round could be played during the current conference championship weekend.
— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) August 16, 2025
as long as the allotment was reviewed each season based on some metric of performance, that would be ok.BearSD said:The idea was described to me as 7 spots for Big Ten, 7 spots for SEC, 5 for ACC, 5 for Big 12, 2 G5, 2 at-large. First two rounds would be played on campuses. First round could be played during the current conference championship weekend.
— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) August 16, 2025
DoubtfulBear said:
Not relevant to us, unless top 15 teams of each conference get an AQ
HoopDreams said:
How about 64 teams?
calumnus said:
Unless they shrink the playoffs to include conference champions only (which would be far better, but is never going to happen) getting rid of the conference championship game is a must.
They are being generous giving the ACC 5 slots. Getting to the top 5 of the ACC should be entirely possible. We need to do it before the B1G and the SEC drop the ACC and Big-12 slots to 4 so they can expand to 8.
This does start to make conference championships irrelevant (like in basketball). All that matters is the tournament/playoffs. However, not having to have a conference champion will allow the B1G and SEC to expand to superconferences.
We need to be the leading contenders (with Stanford) for the expansion of the B1G to 8 on the West Coast. This is why beating OSU and WSU when we play them is critical. Our other competition for a B1G invite is Utah, Colorado, Arizona and ASU. We need to be at least roughly as successful as the best of them and as Ron Rivera has identified, have better national TV ratings. We cannot keep finishing near the bottom of the conference as we have done with Wilcox. We need exciting, winning brand of football that puts fans in the stands and attracts a TV audience.
The Calgorithm pointed the way, we need to humorously play into our smart, liberal, "woke" reputation while playing all these Southern teams in the ACC, especially Florida State and Clemsen. That makes for compelling national TV. However, we can't go 2-6, we cannot choke away a 25 point lead over Miami at home after College Gameday. We need to win too.
ducktilldeath said:calumnus said:
Unless they shrink the playoffs to include conference champions only (which would be far better, but is never going to happen) getting rid of the conference championship game is a must.
They are being generous giving the ACC 5 slots. Getting to the top 5 of the ACC should be entirely possible. We need to do it before the B1G and the SEC drop the ACC and Big-12 slots to 4 so they can expand to 8.
This does start to make conference championships irrelevant (like in basketball). All that matters is the tournament/playoffs. However, not having to have a conference champion will allow the B1G and SEC to expand to superconferences.
We need to be the leading contenders (with Stanford) for the expansion of the B1G to 8 on the West Coast. This is why beating OSU and WSU when we play them is critical. Our other competition for a B1G invite is Utah, Colorado, Arizona and ASU. We need to be at least roughly as successful as the best of them and as Ron Rivera has identified, have better national TV ratings. We cannot keep finishing near the bottom of the conference as we have done with Wilcox. We need exciting, winning brand of football that puts fans in the stands and attracts a TV audience.
The Calgorithm pointed the way, we need to humorously play into our smart, liberal, "woke" reputation while playing all these Southern teams in the ACC, especially Florida State and Clemsen. That makes for compelling national TV. However, we can't go 2-6, we cannot choke away a 25 point lead over Miami at home after College Gameday. We need to win too.
Conference champs only is just an awful way to go. Go 12-0, lose 31-30 to a 9-4 team, etc, etc, etc, etc. Reward the best teams, there should be ZERO automatic qualifiers of any kind.
bearsandgiants said:BearSD said:The idea was described to me as 7 spots for Big Ten, 7 spots for SEC, 5 for ACC, 5 for Big 12, 2 G5, 2 at-large. First two rounds would be played on campuses. First round could be played during the current conference championship weekend.
— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) August 16, 2025
as long as the allotment was reviewed each season based on some metric of performance, that would be ok.
Bobodeluxe said:
Some random at The Athletic writes:
"There's one Playoff format that has proven to work and would appease almost everyone in the sport.
It can be found in the FCS ranks. And it's pretty simple. Twenty-four teams qualify. Ten of them are conference champions. The rest are at-large entrants selected by a committee. The top eight seeds receive a first-round bye, the other 16 play each other, and off we go."
Mo money, mo money, mo money.
ducktilldeath said:calumnus said:
Unless they shrink the playoffs to include conference champions only (which would be far better, but is never going to happen) getting rid of the conference championship game is a must.
They are being generous giving the ACC 5 slots. Getting to the top 5 of the ACC should be entirely possible. We need to do it before the B1G and the SEC drop the ACC and Big-12 slots to 4 so they can expand to 8.
This does start to make conference championships irrelevant (like in basketball). All that matters is the tournament/playoffs. However, not having to have a conference champion will allow the B1G and SEC to expand to superconferences.
We need to be the leading contenders (with Stanford) for the expansion of the B1G to 8 on the West Coast. This is why beating OSU and WSU when we play them is critical. Our other competition for a B1G invite is Utah, Colorado, Arizona and ASU. We need to be at least roughly as successful as the best of them and as Ron Rivera has identified, have better national TV ratings. We cannot keep finishing near the bottom of the conference as we have done with Wilcox. We need exciting, winning brand of football that puts fans in the stands and attracts a TV audience.
The Calgorithm pointed the way, we need to humorously play into our smart, liberal, "woke" reputation while playing all these Southern teams in the ACC, especially Florida State and Clemsen. That makes for compelling national TV. However, we can't go 2-6, we cannot choke away a 25 point lead over Miami at home after College Gameday. We need to win too.
Conference champs only is just an awful way to go. Go 12-0, lose 31-30 to a 9-4 team, etc, etc, etc, etc. Reward the best teams, there should be ZERO automatic qualifiers of any kind.
golden sloth said:ducktilldeath said:calumnus said:
Unless they shrink the playoffs to include conference champions only (which would be far better, but is never going to happen) getting rid of the conference championship game is a must.
They are being generous giving the ACC 5 slots. Getting to the top 5 of the ACC should be entirely possible. We need to do it before the B1G and the SEC drop the ACC and Big-12 slots to 4 so they can expand to 8.
This does start to make conference championships irrelevant (like in basketball). All that matters is the tournament/playoffs. However, not having to have a conference champion will allow the B1G and SEC to expand to superconferences.
We need to be the leading contenders (with Stanford) for the expansion of the B1G to 8 on the West Coast. This is why beating OSU and WSU when we play them is critical. Our other competition for a B1G invite is Utah, Colorado, Arizona and ASU. We need to be at least roughly as successful as the best of them and as Ron Rivera has identified, have better national TV ratings. We cannot keep finishing near the bottom of the conference as we have done with Wilcox. We need exciting, winning brand of football that puts fans in the stands and attracts a TV audience.
The Calgorithm pointed the way, we need to humorously play into our smart, liberal, "woke" reputation while playing all these Southern teams in the ACC, especially Florida State and Clemsen. That makes for compelling national TV. However, we can't go 2-6, we cannot choke away a 25 point lead over Miami at home after College Gameday. We need to win too.
Conference champs only is just an awful way to go. Go 12-0, lose 31-30 to a 9-4 team, etc, etc, etc, etc. Reward the best teams, there should be ZERO automatic qualifiers of any kind.
I completely disagree. Have the regular season mean something. Leaving decisions up to a committee will only result in the have's being unjustly rewarded at the expense of the have-nots.
TedfordTheGreat said:
am i the only one who thinks that 7 7 5 5 with ACC getting 5 guaranteed spot is extremely generous to the ACC and the big 12?
Yea it permanently relegates us into a 2nd tier league. but we are in one anyways. There is no reason we shouldn't be contending for the #4 or #5 spot year in and year out, making us contending perennially for that football playoff spot.
If we don't , we might as well get out of the business. #5 team in the ACC is sorta a joke.
calumnus said:TedfordTheGreat said:
am i the only one who thinks that 7 7 5 5 with ACC getting 5 guaranteed spot is extremely generous to the ACC and the big 12?
Yea it permanently relegates us into a 2nd tier league. but we are in one anyways. There is no reason we shouldn't be contending for the #4 or #5 spot year in and year out, making us contending perennially for that football playoff spot.
If we don't , we might as well get out of the business. #5 team in the ACC is sorta a joke.
5 is very generous. Last year it would have been:
SMU 11-1 (8-0)
Clemson 9-3 (7-1)
Miami 10-2 (6-2)
Syracuse 9-3 (5-3)
Louisville 8-4 (5-3)
And could have easily included Cal but for 4 games with 4th quarter leads mismanaged by Wilcox.
I think after implementing this the B1G and SEC would quickly move to reduce the ACC and Big-12 guaranteed slots for more at large slots.
TedfordTheGreat said:calumnus said:TedfordTheGreat said:
am i the only one who thinks that 7 7 5 5 with ACC getting 5 guaranteed spot is extremely generous to the ACC and the big 12?
Yea it permanently relegates us into a 2nd tier league. but we are in one anyways. There is no reason we shouldn't be contending for the #4 or #5 spot year in and year out, making us contending perennially for that football playoff spot.
If we don't , we might as well get out of the business. #5 team in the ACC is sorta a joke.
5 is very generous. Last year it would have been:
SMU 11-1 (8-0)
Clemson 9-3 (7-1)
Miami 10-2 (6-2)
Syracuse 9-3 (5-3)
Louisville 8-4 (5-3)
And could have easily included Cal but for 4 games with 4th quarter leads mismanaged by Wilcox.
I think after implementing this the B1G and SEC would quickly move to reduce the ACC and Big-12 guaranteed slots for more at large slots.
but then we don't have to agree to that right?
This new proposal (and getting rid of the CCG) i wouldn't be against at all. It should entice miami, FSU and clemson to stay since they are almost guaranteed a playoff spot every year. but i guess in 2029 all these changes again
calumnus said:ducktilldeath said:calumnus said:
Unless they shrink the playoffs to include conference champions only (which would be far better, but is never going to happen) getting rid of the conference championship game is a must.
They are being generous giving the ACC 5 slots. Getting to the top 5 of the ACC should be entirely possible. We need to do it before the B1G and the SEC drop the ACC and Big-12 slots to 4 so they can expand to 8.
This does start to make conference championships irrelevant (like in basketball). All that matters is the tournament/playoffs. However, not having to have a conference champion will allow the B1G and SEC to expand to superconferences.
We need to be the leading contenders (with Stanford) for the expansion of the B1G to 8 on the West Coast. This is why beating OSU and WSU when we play them is critical. Our other competition for a B1G invite is Utah, Colorado, Arizona and ASU. We need to be at least roughly as successful as the best of them and as Ron Rivera has identified, have better national TV ratings. We cannot keep finishing near the bottom of the conference as we have done with Wilcox. We need exciting, winning brand of football that puts fans in the stands and attracts a TV audience.
The Calgorithm pointed the way, we need to humorously play into our smart, liberal, "woke" reputation while playing all these Southern teams in the ACC, especially Florida State and Clemsen. That makes for compelling national TV. However, we can't go 2-6, we cannot choke away a 25 point lead over Miami at home after College Gameday. We need to win too.
Conference champs only is just an awful way to go. Go 12-0, lose 31-30 to a 9-4 team, etc, etc, etc, etc. Reward the best teams, there should be ZERO automatic qualifiers of any kind.
It is the same case with the first round of any single elimination tournament.
