Is 8 wins a success?

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TandemBear
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MinotStateBeav said:

8 years to 8 wins...LETS GO!

What?

8 years to 6 wins! (2024)
7 years to 6 wins! (2023)
6 years to 4 wins! (2022)

So this year will be:
9 years to 8 wins! (If we're lucky)

Sad. Very sad.
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Strykur said:

BearlyCareAnymore said:

bear2034 said:

8-4 with a new coordinator, offensive scheme, new RB, and freshman QB is a dream season you old morons
Whose fault are all of those things. You don't get to change expectations by sucking for 8 years and then claim you've exceeded that low bar.
Freshman QB aside, what happened last year in Bloomington is proof that in today's game you can do a rip and replace and have immediate success


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calumnus
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StillNoStanfurdium said:

bearsandgiants said:

going4roses said:

We gonna just jump to 10 wins ? Yes want but has the work been done for that result not so much

this is the easiest schedule we have ever faced. We damn well better just jump to 10 wins.

Right, aside from Louisville (and/or Duke) and SMU, I think it ranges from possible to highly likely that we win against our other opponents. And even those two or three cases where I'd say I'd say it's unlikely that we win it's not impossible. Louisville lost to last year's Furd after all and we get Duke & SMU at home.

Wilcox's biggest problem has been consistency and winning close games. Last year those issues let to us going 6-7 when we could've gone 10-3 (Miami, FSU, Pitt, NC State 100% should've been wins for us) or 11-2 (depending on what you think of our chances in the Syracuse game). Proving he's actually changed and fixed his issues can realistically mean Cal becomes a 10 win team in one season.

Plus an almost annual loss to a team that has no other FBS wins.
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Big C said:

sycasey said:

boredom said:

sycasey said:

calumnus said:

sycasey said:

calumnus said:

oskithepimp said:

Ron Rivera says yes. I say no.

Wilcox's overall record at Cal is 42-50. He's never had a winning conference season. We've paid him over $25M. He's extremely unlikely to change and become a great coach in his 9th season. We've seen what he can do, and it ain't much. I say unless we win 10 games and go to a really good bowl game, make his ass walk the plank and let's get a good coach before Cal has to walk the plank into college football nothingness.

I'm tired of this ***** The fans are ready (see the GameDay turnout last year - can't blame them for not turning out for lots of other games when we consistently suck), the collective is doing its part, we're getting good players, so it's time for the coach to elevate his game, or hit the ****ing bricks.

Go Bears.

I agree with everything you wrote except that
Wilcox has been paid closer to $40 million and will have received at least $50 million from Cal no matter what happens after the season assuming he is not extended.

And rather than his overall record, what is critical is his conference record where he loses twice as many as he wins. Even with a much easier ACC schedule last year he went 2-6 and now it is not just the $5 million a year we pay him, we are hiring and surrounding him with other head coaches as advisors and GMs in an effort to prop him up.

It was insanely stupid to keep extending him but it was almost as bad to not cut him loose and bring in Rivera instead last year or this when we had the chance. It really would not have cost more money, Wilcox is getting his no matter what. Keeping him another year with 7 or 8, even 9 wins is not going to move the needle. We need a new story to sell.

Is Rivera even interested in college coaching? Was that even a possibility?

From his interviews he seems to be FAR more interested in actually coaching the players and coaches (ie being a head coach) than being a GM, a job he took only because he loves Cal that much and really wanted to be here to try to save the program. .

Hmm, wonder if that's is where this is going.

if that's where this is going then it should've arrived by now. They could've made the change when they brought Rivera in to begin with. Why wait a year? We don't have the luxury of time. Why sign Wilcox' latest set of buddies to what are probably multi-year contracts? We don't exactly have excess cash.

It's all speculation anyway, so I don't really know. None of us know what has been talked about behind the scenes or what Rivera wants to do.


One of the concerns about Rivera as a college coach was that he's never so much as been on a college staff. This would give him a year to get things figured out, from the inside, making contacts, etc.

Not saying that that is where this is going, but I have posted many times that I think he'd be fabulous. Others have reservations. Fair enough.


Typical Cal thinking. He has no college experience so make him the GM instead when he has never been a GM in college or the NFL? Coaching college football is coaching football but GM is all about the current intricacies of college football. Just a waste of his proven skillset and his name recognition.

Meanwhile UNC hires Bill Bellichick who also has zero college experience…
going4roses
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But the name carries the weight needed
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
 
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