My take:

Kansei surprised going 3/3 (he missed last year against UCLA earlier in game; Hawaii loses 16-13). I'm very happy for him.

0:03 left on the clock, the kick was on 3rd down. Calling a TO at around 0:16 might have forced Hawaii to take another shot at better field position or the end zone. Hawaii was clicking on offense. Kansei was kicking into the wind (harder). Better for them to kick from as far away as possible.

If you've seen what Stanford could do in passing, do you really think they're going to move the ball 50 yards with 1 or 2 timeouts in 16 seconds?

oskidunker said:

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75bear said:

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I hate to say it, but until the next round of realignment we need to root for Furd (barf).

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Never

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Dump this co-dependency we are better than that.

It wasn't just the placekicking, it was the punting too. Big punts from Hawaii's Australian punter meant Stanford had to start drives deep from their own territory all game. Meanwhile, Stanford's punter had issues giving Hawaii short fields on their drives. Special Teams matter.

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Ccajon2 said:

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Can someone give me a quick recap on why we should root for furds. Also explain why or how furds helped us get into the ACC what exactly happened I don't quite remember I'm getting old.

Back after everyone was screaming and yelling after the pac-12 implosion I was saying we should just move into the mountain West but virtually nobody but blue blood and a few others agreed with me.

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Condi rice saved our golden bear asses

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Did she? I was under the impression that it was the Notre Dame AD who was very vocal about us deserving to be in power football and forcing the ACC's hand since they have to placate Notre Dame and keep them from joining the B10

sycasey said:

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Bearly Clad said:

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bencgilmore said:

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Ccajon2 said:

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Can someone give me a quick recap on why we should root for furds. Also explain why or how furds helped us get into the ACC what exactly happened I don't quite remember I'm getting old.

Back after everyone was screaming and yelling after the pac-12 implosion I was saying we should just move into the mountain West but virtually nobody but blue blood and a few others agreed with me.

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Condi rice saved our golden bear asses

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Did she? I was under the impression that it was the Notre Dame AD who was very vocal about us deserving to be in power football and forcing the ACC's hand since they have to placate Notre Dame and keep them from joining the B10

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It was both. But again, notable that Stanford always maintained the "package deal" idea of only moving with Cal and didn't try to kick us to the curb.

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Yes indeed. Another factor was that the president of ND was a Theological Union grad, so technically a Cal alum.

I'm of the opinion that if we had a semi competent ad, maybe we could have approached the furds early on. Maybe after a conference we could have approached Usc/ UCLA about including us for foursome into the BG. Surely, BG wouldn't turn that down, just look at the number of eyeballs that would be watching all four schools games. Then we would be locked into what is already the premium conference.

Ccajon2 said:

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I'm of the opinion that if we had a semi competent ad, maybe we could have approached the furds early on.

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More like if we had a better administration and had won more games over the last decade we would have been given a ticket to the big boys club instead.

Ccajon2 said:

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I'm of the opinion that if we had a semi competent ad, maybe we could have approached the furds early on. Maybe after a conference we could have approached Usc/ UCLA about including us for foursome into the BG. Surely, BG wouldn't turn that down, just look at the number of eyeballs that would be watching all four schools games. Then we would be locked into what is already the premium conference.

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I think Cal should have partnered with University of Beijing. Think of the media markets we could deliver.

Ccajon2 said:

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I'm of the opinion that if we had a semi competent ad, maybe we could have approached the furds early on. Maybe after a conference we could have approached Usc/ UCLA about including us for foursome into the BG. Surely, BG wouldn't turn that down, just look at the number of eyeballs that would be watching all four schools games. Then we would be locked into what is already the premium conference.

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This is what I was saying at the time. When USC and UCLA announced they were going to the B1G, we needed to be working with them, Fox Sports and the B1G to get in too. Have Newsome and the Regents say it is a package deal. Instead we bad mouthed USC and UCLA and tried to block them from leaving, settling for Calimony. What was ridiculous were the number of "insiders" here who claimed Carol Christ was "doing more than any other PAC-12 CEO" to get us into the B1G, when there were zero reported rumors of it (unlike Oregon and Washington) and ALL her public actions were the opposite. Of course, worthless Knowlton was AWOL. Then the Pac-12 predictably imploded and it was obvious she was caught off guard and had no plan.