Are things lining up...?

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blungld
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Not to get premature or to offend the Woofing Gods, but the team looked to have the ability to score, a defense tough against run that causes TOs, and special teams that won't lose games and has the capability to win them.

The biggest questions marks were OL (looked like best we have had in years) and defensive backfield (will give up some big plays but also will make them) and neither look like a liability and border on decent to good.

Going forward it seems that we now need more consistent play out of WRs and a little more pass rush.

Might this be Wilcox's best team? That would be shocking given the off season upheaval and truly welcome surprise.

The way the schedule lines up, I could easily see us being 6-1 after seven games, and if breaks go our way and no injuries, end up 9-3 at a decent bowl.
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Trumpanzee
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And then we sign Wilcox to a long term contract....
Trumpanzee
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And the nightmare starts all over again....
chazzed
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You won't get me to fall for that again.
MrGPAC
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Wilcox is fighting to not get fired right now.

There is no reason to believe he will be extended after just one season of success, he will have to establish a pattern.

We have Rivera making the call on these extensions now, not Knowlton. I have a lot more faith that we won't jump to extensions, and if we were to extend Wilcox for some reason we would do so with reasonable buy out clauses.
Anarchistbear
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Harsin, Rolo, Jaron. Suddenly an offense appears out of the swamp
Cal88
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^And a functional OL.
Bearly Clad
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After a rewatch I'm not as down on the WRs as I was in first look. They could use some upgrades but it looked worse than it was because JKS is so ungodly accurate. A few of those passes were tough, contested looks that seemed like bad drops because he put the ball right on the money, they were still tougher catches to make though
Pittstop
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MrGPAC said:

Wilcox is fighting to not get fired right now.

There is no reason to believe he will be extended after just one season of success, he will have to establish a pattern.

We have Rivera making the call on these extensions now, not Knowlton. I have a lot more faith that we won't jump to extensions, and if we were to extend Wilcox for some reason we would do so with reasonable buy out clauses.


While RR won't extend JW if he goes 9-3, he will probably let him coach another season on his existing contract (thus decreasing the buyout if he needs to move on from him after 'next' season).
Cal88
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It takes time for the new WRs and QB to get on the same page, for the former to have a feel of the kind of ball he throws and the latter, the kind of speed they have and possession skills. That's why JKS' performace was particularly impressive, I recall only one errant pass (while scrambling) in his 30 attempts.
HairOfTheBear
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Pittstop said:

MrGPAC said:

Wilcox is fighting to not get fired right now.

There is no reason to believe he will be extended after just one season of success, he will have to establish a pattern.

We have Rivera making the call on these extensions now, not Knowlton. I have a lot more faith that we won't jump to extensions, and if we were to extend Wilcox for some reason we would do so with reasonable buy out clauses.


While RR won't extend JW if he goes 9-3, he will probably let him coach another season on his existing contract (thus decreasing the buyout if he needs to move on from him after 'next' season).

It is not totally unprecedented for a coach to have good-decent record and still get fired. The Warriors made the playoffs in back-to-back seasons and then fired Mark Jackson and brought in Kerr. Now, I realize that there is no guarantee that we would find our "Kerr", I'm just saying a winning record doesn't necessarily prevent the trigger from being pulled. That said, I think you're probably right, 9-3 gets him another year.
BancroftSteps
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"...Woofing Gods…"

Haha. Now there's a concept I have not considered in a very long time.
sycasey
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Cal88 said:

It takes time for the new WRs and QB to get on the same page, for the former to have a feel of the kind of ball he throws and the latter, the kind of speed they have and possession skills. That's why JKS' performace was particularly impressive, I recall only one errant pass (while scrambling) in his 30 attempts.

I think the only "missed" pass was the last one in these highlights:



Really you have to credit the defense for getting pressure up the middle right away (one of the few times the OL allowed that) so he has to rush the throw. Others were right on the receiver, albeit contested sometimes. Maybe you could count the desperation heave right before half too, but again extenuating circumstances.
sycasey
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Bearly Clad said:

After a rewatch I'm not as down on the WRs as I was in first look. They could use some upgrades but it looked worse than it was because JKS is so ungodly accurate. A few of those passes were tough, contested looks that seemed like bad drops because he put the ball right on the money, they were still tougher catches to make though

Would be nice if the WR could get more separation on these plays though.
calumnus
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Bearly Clad said:

After a rewatch I'm not as down on the WRs as I was in first look. They could use some upgrades but it looked worse than it was because JKS is so ungodly accurate. A few of those passes were tough, contested looks that seemed like bad drops because he put the ball right on the money, they were still tougher catches to make though

The catches are tougher if the DB can stay with you, you are short and do not do a great job of going up and securing the catch. Our WRs made Mendoza look good last year. This year they may be our weakest unit (though RBs only averaged 3.7 YPC despite our success through the air). However, it was only our first game, too soon to tell, but Southern Texas won't tell us much either. Minnesota will be our first test.
socaltownie
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Bearly Clad said:

After a rewatch I'm not as down on the WRs as I was in first look. They could use some upgrades but it looked worse than it was because JKS is so ungodly accurate. A few of those passes were tough, contested looks that seemed like bad drops because he put the ball right on the money, they were still tougher catches to make though

That is what I thought. A few of those balls are some of the best deep balls I have seen in a LONG time. Near perfectly placed.
Big C
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Pittstop said:

MrGPAC said:

Wilcox is fighting to not get fired right now.

There is no reason to believe he will be extended after just one season of success, he will have to establish a pattern.

We have Rivera making the call on these extensions now, not Knowlton. I have a lot more faith that we won't jump to extensions, and if we were to extend Wilcox for some reason we would do so with reasonable buy out clauses.


While RR won't extend JW if he goes 9-3, he will probably let him coach another season on his existing contract (thus decreasing the buyout if he needs to move on from him after 'next' season).

Wilcox has two years left on his contract after this season. There are extensions and there are extensions. If there is a high % buyout clause that the employer can take, then the extension is basically only for cosmetic purposes (recruiting). Obviously, what we don't want to do here is another multi-year extension with no-or-minimum buyout. Of course, if we went 10-2, I'd love to be discussing this in three months!
GoOskie
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Premature. Let's wait until after Minn to start worrying or getting excited.
sycasey
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The argument on Wilcox (and Dykes before him) was that the school administration was just making it too difficult for any coach to succeed beyond the records they have posted. Lyons seems to have acknowledged this was an issue and is allowing Rivera to clear the roadblocks. That means it's put up or shut up time for the coach. Let's see what happens. If Wilcox can actually have success (9 wins or more) then maybe he was actually a good coach being held back by the admin. If not, time to move on.
GivemTheAxe
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MrGPAC said:

Wilcox is fighting to not get fired right now.

There is no reason to believe he will be extended after just one season of success, he will have to establish a pattern.

We have Rivera making the call on these extensions now, not Knowlton. I have a lot more faith that we won't jump to extensions, and if we were to extend Wilcox for some reason we would do so with reasonable buy out clauses.

Amen to this.
Finally we have a football guy making decisions on the football coach
Shocky1
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Trumpanzee said:

And then we sign Wilcox to a long term contract....


why r u such a consistently negative and uniformed db??...do u have any contacts within the cal football program or the chancellor's office or r u just talking outta ur azz again??

u tole me u have never even been to a game at memorial stadium how is that even possible, r u glued to ur sofa in boise??
Trumpanzee
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Shocky1 said:

Trumpanzee said:

And then we sign Wilcox to a long term contract....


why r u such a consistently negative and uniformed db??...do u have any contacts within the cal football program or the chancellor's office or r u just talking outta ur azz again??

u tole me u have never even been to a game at memorial stadium how is that even possible, r u glued to ur sofa in boise??


Hey DB, I never said I haven't been to a game at Memorial before. You can just head back to your mom and dad's basement and play your video games wishing you could have a real girl instead of the latex one sitting next to you......
MilleniaBear
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Interestingly one of the job saving functions of the HC was recruiting. Basically you would have to start all over if you fired a HC. But with the portal now the HS recruiting importance is reduced.
Shocky1
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Trumpanzee said:

Shocky1 said:

Trumpanzee said:

And then we sign Wilcox to a long term contract....


why r u such a consistently negative and uniformed db??...do u have any contacts within the cal football program or the chancellor's office or r u just talking outta ur azz again??

u tole me u have never even been to a game at memorial stadium how is that even possible, r u glued to ur sofa in boise??


Hey DB, I never said I haven't been to a game at Memorial before. You can just head back to your mom and dad's basement and play your video games wishing you could have a real girl instead of the latex one sitting next to you......

do u want me to repost the pm u sent me with your affirmation that you've never actually been to memorial stadium??

seriously r u a troll, why r u wasting ur time here, nobody thinks ur a cal fan
Trumpanzee
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Shocky1 said:

Trumpanzee said:

Shocky1 said:

Trumpanzee said:

And then we sign Wilcox to a long term contract....


why r u such a consistently negative and uniformed db??...do u have any contacts within the cal football program or the chancellor's office or r u just talking outta ur azz again??

u tole me u have never even been to a game at memorial stadium how is that even possible, r u glued to ur sofa in boise??


Hey DB, I never said I haven't been to a game at Memorial before. You can just head back to your mom and dad's basement and play your video games wishing you could have a real girl instead of the latex one sitting next to you......

do u want me to repost the pm u sent me with your affirmation that you've never actually been to memorial stadium??

seriously r u a troll, why r u wasting ur time here, nobody thinks ur a cal fan


Sure, because I have no idea what you're talking about.
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