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San Jose Mercury News, October 6th, 2025
Should be:
Wilcox: "I've got to pack up and leave." You're the eff!ng head coach for 9 seasons. An immature team? Really?
Wilcox: "I've got to pack up and leave." You're the eff!ng head coach for 9 seasons. An immature team? Really?
BearBoarBlarney said:
Should be:
Wilcox: "I've got to pack up and leave." You're the eff!ng head coach for 9 seasons. An immature team? Really?
Wilcox is getting desperate. He knows that he has lost the team, and that his seat is getting hotter and hotter. Rather than take any responsibility for the debacle against Duke, he now blames the team for the poor performance. Real leaders take responsibility for the performance of their troops. Our problem is that Wilcox is not a good leader, in addition to being a very poor football coach.
It's been said that a team reflects the personality of its coach.
I hope that Moraga and others can push past this coach speak. I mean what I saw Saturday was some key talent gaps. I don't know how that reflects "Maturity". We don't have guys that are scary rushers so their QB had a LOT of time (at least in the 2nd guarter). We have two tackles who are sub p4 talent....especially in respect to footspeed. Maybe it is true for some of the secondary and LB play. And I am sure this will not be addressed during the middle of the season both for smart strategic reasons and also the bad look of throwing players under the bus.
If we were doing dumb things out there (Personal Fouls, Taunting, missing substitutions, etc.) then sure. It would be a team that has to grow up.. If we were over pursuing and getting burned by leaving our rushing lanes, sure. But that isn't what I saw on Saturday but...the flip side being I am not a HC and there may be subtle things I am missing.
If we were doing dumb things out there (Personal Fouls, Taunting, missing substitutions, etc.) then sure. It would be a team that has to grow up.. If we were over pursuing and getting burned by leaving our rushing lanes, sure. But that isn't what I saw on Saturday but...the flip side being I am not a HC and there may be subtle things I am missing.
BearBoarBlarney said:
Should be:
Wilcox: "I've got to pack up and leave." You're the eff!ng head coach for 9 seasons. An immature team? Really?
YOU have got to grow up Wilcox.
You and the other coaches, the only grow ass men in that locker room in this program, need to grow the F up and learn your lessons. If players are inconsistent, design a program and drill to get them more consistent. Find ways for them to enable them to practice those disciplines. Stop blaming others. YOU are the most inconsistent coach I know. Sometimes we can hang with a top 25 program, sometimes we lose 0-35 to SDSU or lose to a winless FSU or Colorado team.
Sometimes you get fired up, and sometimes you just stand on the sideline and cross your arm and zone out.
If our head coach coaches inconsistently, how can you demand perfection from the team?
socaltownie said:
I hope that Moraga and others can push past this coach speak. I mean what I saw Saturday was some key talent gaps. I don't know how that reflects "Maturity". We don't have guys that are scary rushers so their QB had a LOT of time (at least in the 2nd guarter). We have two tackles who are sub p4 talent....especially in respect to footspeed. Maybe it is true for some of the secondary and LB play. And I am sure this will not be addressed during the middle of the season both for smart strategic reasons and also the bad look of throwing players under the bus.
If we were doing dumb things out there (Personal Fouls, Taunting, missing substitutions, etc.) then sure. It would be a team that has to grow up.. If we were over pursuing and getting burned by leaving our rushing lanes, sure. But that isn't what I saw on Saturday but...the flip side being I am not a HC and there may be subtle things I am missing.
Should he said that the players are not good enough? Should he say he is not a good enough coach? Even though both may be true, since there is nothing to be done about these problems, I don't think he should point them out. So he says something like we are not playing up to our abilities. He frames it as immaturity. Sounds fine to me.
DiabloWags said:
San Jose Mercury News, October 6th, 2025
1. Love that Faraudo goes complete homer and tries to blame the loss on JKS getting up a little gimpy on one play even though JKS said he was fine and guys get up gimpy constantly.
2. This kind of talk from the coach looks like every other Cal coach in their last year ever. The desperate misplaced anger at the players. Hopefully the buyout doesn't preclude this offseason from going like all of those did.
3. When Cal grows up, we will replace Wilcox.
sluggo said:socaltownie said:
I hope that Moraga and others can push past this coach speak. I mean what I saw Saturday was some key talent gaps. I don't know how that reflects "Maturity". We don't have guys that are scary rushers so their QB had a LOT of time (at least in the 2nd guarter). We have two tackles who are sub p4 talent....especially in respect to footspeed. Maybe it is true for some of the secondary and LB play. And I am sure this will not be addressed during the middle of the season both for smart strategic reasons and also the bad look of throwing players under the bus.
If we were doing dumb things out there (Personal Fouls, Taunting, missing substitutions, etc.) then sure. It would be a team that has to grow up.. If we were over pursuing and getting burned by leaving our rushing lanes, sure. But that isn't what I saw on Saturday but...the flip side being I am not a HC and there may be subtle things I am missing.
Should he said that the players are not good enough? Should he say he is not a good enough coach? Even though both may be true, since there is nothing to be done about these problems, I don't think he should point them out. So he says something like we are not playing up to our abilities. He frames it as immaturity. Sounds fine to me.
No he shouldn't. But typical "not saying anything coach speak" would be
":Clearly we were not prepared enough and that starts with the staff. We have got to work harder to put our players in position to practice harder to be able to respond as teams make adjustments. THat is on us and we take full responsibility. Next question."
It is the "we are not a mature football team" which has been sorta scratching my head as to what he means and how that is showing in specific ways on the field.
socaltownie said:sluggo said:socaltownie said:
I hope that Moraga and others can push past this coach speak. I mean what I saw Saturday was some key talent gaps. I don't know how that reflects "Maturity". We don't have guys that are scary rushers so their QB had a LOT of time (at least in the 2nd guarter). We have two tackles who are sub p4 talent....especially in respect to footspeed. Maybe it is true for some of the secondary and LB play. And I am sure this will not be addressed during the middle of the season both for smart strategic reasons and also the bad look of throwing players under the bus.
If we were doing dumb things out there (Personal Fouls, Taunting, missing substitutions, etc.) then sure. It would be a team that has to grow up.. If we were over pursuing and getting burned by leaving our rushing lanes, sure. But that isn't what I saw on Saturday but...the flip side being I am not a HC and there may be subtle things I am missing.
Should he said that the players are not good enough? Should he say he is not a good enough coach? Even though both may be true, since there is nothing to be done about these problems, I don't think he should point them out. So he says something like we are not playing up to our abilities. He frames it as immaturity. Sounds fine to me.
No he shouldn't. But typical "not saying anything coach speak" would be
":Clearly we were not prepared enough and that starts with the staff. We have got to work harder to put our players in position to practice harder to be able to respond as teams make adjustments. THat is on us and we take full responsibility. Next question."
It is the "we are not a mature football team" which has been sorta scratching my head as to what he means and how that is showing in specific ways on the field.
agree w this. no he shouldn't say the players are not good enough. But he also shouldn't offload all of the responsibilities. By saying they are immature and inconsistent it puts almost all the blame on the players. Especially the immature part.
I said to CalBearKen as we were leaving, and prior to the radio interview, that I don't want to hear "we (coaches) have to do better". In Justin's defense, that's what he usually says, putting most of the weight on his and the staff's shoulders (rightfully so). This time he didn't say that. And I'm not sure he's totally wrong about the players......not entirely anyway. I mentioned to CBK that the team had NO fire on the sidelines. Neither the coaches, nor the players. So, when I got home yesterday I (painfully) watched my recording of the game. There was a NOTICEABLE difference between the action on the sidelines. The Duke team was animated, passionate, and visibly into the game. The Cal sideline was anything but. No fire, no yelling, no visible passion.....just nothing. Now I'm well aware a team is a reflection of their coach. But Tom Landry and Bill Walsh (as examples) had a very low key approach, and their players performed. So I think it comes down to desire. Duke clearly wanted this game. And they showed it, both on the field, and on the sidelines. Cal didn't have the same intensity. A coach can only do so much. They're not on the field. So at some point, the players have to put it on themselves to get each other fired up and into the game. I'm not dismissing Justin and the staff at all. I'm just saying that the players also have some responsibility in holding each other accountable and helping each other rise to the occasion. And I'm not seeing that. So yes, I do think this team has some immaturity. That's not to let the coaches off the hook at all. It's just pointing out that both players and coaches have some responsibility about what I'm seeing (or not seeing). This team can be very competitive if it wants to. I just wonder if it really does want to.
socaltownie said:sluggo said:socaltownie said:
I hope that Moraga and others can push past this coach speak. I mean what I saw Saturday was some key talent gaps. I don't know how that reflects "Maturity". We don't have guys that are scary rushers so their QB had a LOT of time (at least in the 2nd guarter). We have two tackles who are sub p4 talent....especially in respect to footspeed. Maybe it is true for some of the secondary and LB play. And I am sure this will not be addressed during the middle of the season both for smart strategic reasons and also the bad look of throwing players under the bus.
If we were doing dumb things out there (Personal Fouls, Taunting, missing substitutions, etc.) then sure. It would be a team that has to grow up.. If we were over pursuing and getting burned by leaving our rushing lanes, sure. But that isn't what I saw on Saturday but...the flip side being I am not a HC and there may be subtle things I am missing.
Should he said that the players are not good enough? Should he say he is not a good enough coach? Even though both may be true, since there is nothing to be done about these problems, I don't think he should point them out. So he says something like we are not playing up to our abilities. He frames it as immaturity. Sounds fine to me.
No he shouldn't. But typical "not saying anything coach speak" would be
"Clearly we were not prepared enough and that starts with the staff. We have got to work harder to put our players in position to practice harder to be able to respond as teams make adjustments. THAT is on us and we take full responsibility. Next question."
It is the "we are not a mature football team" which has been sorta scratching my head as to what he means and how that is showing in specific ways on the field.
Agreed 100%
So another person sees what I saw along the Cal sideline. When we were up 21-7 I saw no joy, just an anxious look on JW's face and in his demeanor. I knew something was not right. Does the guy suffer from depression?
jy1988 said:
So another person sees what I saw along the Cal sideline. When we were up 21-7 I saw no joy, just an anxious look on JW's face and in his demeanor. I knew something was not right. Does the guy suffer from depression?
I don't know whether or not Wilcox suffers from depression, but he knows how to inflict it.
TomBear said:
I said to CalBearKen as we were leaving, and prior to the radio interview, that I don't want to hear "we (coaches) have to do better". In Justin's defense, that's what he usually says, putting most of the weight on his and the staff's shoulders (rightfully so). This time he didn't say that. And I'm not sure he's totally wrong about the players......not entirely anyway. I mentioned to CBK that the team had NO fire on the sidelines. Neither the coaches, nor the players. So, when I got home yesterday I (painfully) watched my recording of the game. There was a NOTICEABLE difference between the action on the sidelines. The Duke team was animated, passionate, and visibly into the game. The Cal sideline was anything but. No fire, no yelling, no visible passion.....just nothing. Now I'm well aware a team is a reflection of their coach. But Tom Landry and Bill Walsh (as examples) had a very low key approach, and their players performed. So I think it comes down to desire. Duke clearly wanted this game. And they showed it, both on the field, and on the sidelines. Cal didn't have the same intensity. A coach can only do so much. They're not on the field. So at some point, the players have to put it on themselves to get each other fired up and into the game. I'm not dismissing Justin and the staff at all. I'm just saying that the players also have some responsibility in holding each other accountable and helping each other rise to the occasion. And I'm not seeing that. So yes, I do think this team has some immaturity. That's not to let the coaches off the hook at all. It's just pointing out that both players and coaches have some responsibility about what I'm seeing (or not seeing). This team can be very competitive if it wants to. I just wonder if it really does want to.
Apparently you and I have been watching different Wilmoe post game interviews after losses these past 9 years. He always blames the players and throws them under the bus.
Following loss to winless Colorado 2022
Following loss to winless FSU 2024
Following loss to SDSU 2025
Following loss to Miami 2024
The one great thing my grandad taught me and I believe he learned it while playing for Stub Allison is "good leaders say I when speaking about failures of the group and we when speaking of successes of the group"
What I hear consistently from Wilmoe is "we need to do a better job executing" not what he should be saying which is "this loss is on me I need to stop calling soft nickle zone prevent malarkey and draw draw check down any time we have a lead and I need to be more agressive and stop coaching not to lose"
At first sign of the most minuscule of adversity, and it looks like it's "here we go again" from the players. Channeling their inner-Eeyore, and woe is me....
Where are the team captains, where are the seniors that should be holding their team accountable - or does it begin with the seniors from 4-5 years of dealing with Wilcox and PTSD?
I get the immaturity issue/s, and don't disagree at all - they look like 3 yr olds sitting in the corner after wanting to take their ball and go home - but, at what point is Wilcox responsible for firing his team up, calling on the team leaders, injecting a positive message as he goes up and down the bench with rah-rah vs just pacing the sidelines sullenly? How is the sullen act helping?
Where are the team captains, where are the seniors that should be holding their team accountable - or does it begin with the seniors from 4-5 years of dealing with Wilcox and PTSD?
I get the immaturity issue/s, and don't disagree at all - they look like 3 yr olds sitting in the corner after wanting to take their ball and go home - but, at what point is Wilcox responsible for firing his team up, calling on the team leaders, injecting a positive message as he goes up and down the bench with rah-rah vs just pacing the sidelines sullenly? How is the sullen act helping?
I don't give a crap what he says to the media. What can anybody say after a game like that? There's no good thing to say (just like there was no bad thing to say after we beat a Minnesota and a BC). He can throw the players under the bus, he can throw himself under, he can say everybody needs to grow up, whatever.
I do give a crap about whatever he and Harsin might have said to each other at halftime, because we got almost-zero offense after that.
BearBoarBlarney said:
Should be:
Wilcox: "I've got to pack up and leave." You're the eff!ng head coach for 9 seasons. An immature team? Really?
When the team is immature and lacks focus, it is 100% on the coach. This isn't 8 year olds playing soccer...
matteye said:BearBoarBlarney said:
Should be:
Wilcox: "I've got to pack up and leave." You're the eff!ng head coach for 9 seasons. An immature team? Really?
When the team is immature and lacks focus, it is 100% on the coach. This isn't 8 year olds playing soccer...
By halftime everybody on the sideline knew the defensive gameplan was toast and so what was the point
JKS is an amazing talent. He may even lean into his talents a bit too much sometimes with a little bit of a gunslinger attitude with an arm that typically backs it up.
But he's a freshman. His first pic was an ill advised throw. We stacked 3 receivers to one side against a single high safety and....threw it directly to where the safety was. That's a learning moment but didn't seal the game either way.
Next offensive pass was a throw down the sideline on what was a free play after Duke jumped offsides. It was intercepted too.
Next two plays were sacks as JKS was indecisive about where to throw. He was seeing ghosts on defense that weren't there after back to back interceptions, even if one was called back. He was throwing it at receivers feet on screens to avoid a potential interception. He had the yips.
Again, he's a freshman. That happens and these are learning experiences. You know whose job it is to pull him out of it? The coaching staff. Especially after the debacle against SDSU we HAD to have a plan on what to do when things start rolling against our QB. Short passes, quick routes, and easy outlets. You also need someone coaching him up getting him back into the right head space.
None of that happened. Instead we got to sit there and watch JKS flounder. If you can't help pull him out of the funk you have to at least know when its time to replace him.
It was painful watching JKS get left out to dry like that. Is it a learning moment? Sure. Will it pay dividends in the long run? Yeah... but he was stuck alone out there and really could have used some help.
And then to have the audacity to blame the players for being "immature" when you did absolutely nothing to help them? Ugh.
But he's a freshman. His first pic was an ill advised throw. We stacked 3 receivers to one side against a single high safety and....threw it directly to where the safety was. That's a learning moment but didn't seal the game either way.
Next offensive pass was a throw down the sideline on what was a free play after Duke jumped offsides. It was intercepted too.
Next two plays were sacks as JKS was indecisive about where to throw. He was seeing ghosts on defense that weren't there after back to back interceptions, even if one was called back. He was throwing it at receivers feet on screens to avoid a potential interception. He had the yips.
Again, he's a freshman. That happens and these are learning experiences. You know whose job it is to pull him out of it? The coaching staff. Especially after the debacle against SDSU we HAD to have a plan on what to do when things start rolling against our QB. Short passes, quick routes, and easy outlets. You also need someone coaching him up getting him back into the right head space.
None of that happened. Instead we got to sit there and watch JKS flounder. If you can't help pull him out of the funk you have to at least know when its time to replace him.
It was painful watching JKS get left out to dry like that. Is it a learning moment? Sure. Will it pay dividends in the long run? Yeah... but he was stuck alone out there and really could have used some help.
And then to have the audacity to blame the players for being "immature" when you did absolutely nothing to help them? Ugh.
MrGPAC said:
JKS is an amazing talent. He may even lean into his talents a bit too much sometimes with a little bit of a gunslinger attitude with an arm that typically backs it up.
But he's a freshman. His first pic was an ill advised throw. We stacked 3 receivers to one side against a single high safety and....threw it directly to where the safety was. That's a learning moment but didn't seal the game either way.
Next offensive pass was a throw down the sideline on what was a free play after Duke jumped offsides. It was intercepted too.
Next two plays were sacks as JKS was indecisive about where to throw. He was seeing ghosts on defense that weren't there after back to back interceptions, even if one was called back. He was throwing it at receivers feet on screens to avoid a potential interception. He had the yips.
Again, he's a freshman. That happens and these are learning experiences. You know whose job it is to pull him out of it? The coaching staff. Especially after the debacle against SDSU we HAD to have a plan on what to do when things start rolling against our QB. Short passes, quick routes, and easy outlets. You also need someone coaching him up getting him back into the right head space.
None of that happened. Instead we got to sit there and watch JKS flounder. If you can't help pull him out of the funk you have to at least know when its time to replace him.
It was painful watching JKS get left out to dry like that. Is it a learning moment? Sure. Will it pay dividends in the long run? Yeah... but he was stuck alone out there and really could have used some help.
And then to have the audacity to blame the players for being "immature" when you did absolutely nothing to help them? Ugh.
Great point! I had sorta forgotten about the Free play pick. Couldn't agree more with the idea that at that point you gotta have a couple of "go to" plays to settle him down. Part of it is that we can't consistently run the rock so as to give him a couple of first downs that way.
jy1988 said:
So another person sees what I saw along the Cal sideline. When we were up 21-7 I saw no joy, just an anxious look on JW's face and in his demeanor. I knew something was not right. Does the guy suffer from depression?
I started a thread on this after the SDSU game. You can tell what kind of day it will be by Wilcox's demeanor on the sidelines. For Minnesota he was all over the sideline, running around, getting in the refs ears. That correlated to a team playing fired up and play calling that was more dynamic and took more risks. I knew by looking at him we were going to have a good day and that was by far our best performance.
He's good for that once or twice a year.
The other ten games he stands there glassy eyed with one arm around his waste, the other hand fidgeting with his face the whole time. Completely disengaged emotionally. He looks like Charlie Brown outside the principal's office because his tummy hurts. The team lacks energy and the playcalling is ridiculously conservative.
I posited that if he came out passionate every game we would be a good team. Not conference title good, but play exciting ball and be good for 8-9 wins a year.
You're 100% correct. Another indicator of Wilcox's detached demeanor is at the beginning of the game when the team runs out of the north tunnel. The good, engaged coaches lead their team and run out onto the field at the head of the team. Wilcox? He waits until the entire team is on the field and then he slowly walks out of the north tunnel. Very uninspiring and detached. No wonder the team lacks energy and enthusiasm. They have no leadership from the head coach.
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BearlyCareAnymore said:jy1988 said:
So another person sees what I saw along the Cal sideline. When we were up 21-7 I saw no joy, just an anxious look on JW's face and in his demeanor. I knew something was not right. Does the guy suffer from depression?
I started a thread on this after the SDSU game. You can tell what kind of day it will be by Wilcox's demeanor on the sidelines. For Minnesota he was all over the sideline, running around, getting in the refs ears. That correlated to a team playing fired up and play calling that was more dynamic and took more risks. I knew by looking at him we were going to have a good day and that was by far our best performance.
He's good for that once or twice a year.
The other ten games he stands there glassy eyed with one arm around his waste, the other hand fidgeting with his face the whole time. Completely disengaged emotionally. He looks like Charlie Brown outside the principal's office because his tummy hurts. The team lacks energy and the playcalling is ridiculously conservative.
I posited that if he came out passionate every game we would be a good team. Not conference title good, but play exciting ball and be good for 8-9 wins a year.
Sounds like we need to get him to start a coke habit.
TandemBear said:
I've said it before, I'll say it again:
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Do I need to make the point any clearer?
no
It is a little odd, how he sometimes seems disengaged during the games. I assuming he is talking to his coordinators or something, electronically?
jy1988 said:
So another person sees what I saw along the Cal sideline. When we were up 21-7 I saw no joy, just an anxious look on JW's face and in his demeanor. I knew something was not right. Does the guy suffer from depression?
How did you manage not to notice it the 3-4 seasons prior? He's the same guy he's always been.
Because he usually didn't have a team up by 21-7 at the end of the first half.
pingpong2 said:
Sounds like we need to get him to start a coke habit.
Priceless. We need...
Watch the first minute after half time, we were up and in the second half had relinquished the lead but the game wasn't over. Watch our sideline then watch Dukes. with the whole half of play ahead they are jumping up and down, as if doing the "this is Bear Territory" celebration while our bench was doing nothing. I knew we were about to get blown out and went to get on my boat. (I invited Wilcon but he didn't trust me). I didnt need to see the second half.
How often has Wilcox run trick plays? They require creativity, confidence, timing, and the players typically love them.
TonyTiger said:
Watch the first minute after half time, we were up and in the second half had relinquished the lead but the game wasn't over. Watch our sideline then watch Dukes. with the whole half of play ahead they are jumping up and down, as if doing the "this is Bear Territory" celebration while our bench was doing nothing. I knew we were about to get blown out and went to get on my boat. (I invited Wilcon but he didn't trust me). I didnt need to see the second half.
I'll be honest, I watched dook doing that and thought it looked like fake enthusiasm to me. I'm not a huge fan of that on the sideline.
Get him in touch with this guy up in Eugene... The real WhiteOut at Penn State was up his nose last weekend it appears...
CNHTH said:TomBear said:
I said to CalBearKen as we were leaving, and prior to the radio interview, that I don't want to hear "we (coaches) have to do better". In Justin's defense, that's what he usually says, putting most of the weight on his and the staff's shoulders (rightfully so). This time he didn't say that. And I'm not sure he's totally wrong about the players......not entirely anyway. I mentioned to CBK that the team had NO fire on the sidelines. Neither the coaches, nor the players. So, when I got home yesterday I (painfully) watched my recording of the game. There was a NOTICEABLE difference between the action on the sidelines. The Duke team was animated, passionate, and visibly into the game. The Cal sideline was anything but. No fire, no yelling, no visible passion.....just nothing. Now I'm well aware a team is a reflection of their coach. But Tom Landry and Bill Walsh (as examples) had a very low key approach, and their players performed. So I think it comes down to desire. Duke clearly wanted this game. And they showed it, both on the field, and on the sidelines. Cal didn't have the same intensity. A coach can only do so much. They're not on the field. So at some point, the players have to put it on themselves to get each other fired up and into the game. I'm not dismissing Justin and the staff at all. I'm just saying that the players also have some responsibility in holding each other accountable and helping each other rise to the occasion. And I'm not seeing that. So yes, I do think this team has some immaturity. That's not to let the coaches off the hook at all. It's just pointing out that both players and coaches have some responsibility about what I'm seeing (or not seeing). This team can be very competitive if it wants to. I just wonder if it really does want to.
Apparently you and I have been watching different Wilmoe post game interviews after losses these past 9 years. He always blames the players and throws them under the bus.
Following loss to winless Colorado 2022
Following loss to winless FSU 2024
Following loss to SDSU 2025
Following loss to Miami 2024
The one great thing my grandad taught me and I believe he learned it while playing for Stub Allison is "good leaders say I when speaking about failures of the group and we when speaking of successes of the group"
What I hear consistently from Wilmoe is "we need to do a better job executing" not what he should be saying which is "this loss is on me I need to stop calling soft nickle zone prevent malarkey and draw draw check down any time we have a lead and I need to be more agressive and stop coaching not to lose"
Wilcox has a history of being supportive of his coaches at the expense of the players. These are your players Justin. The players you and your staff brought to Cal. And are now paying to play this game. He was very angry after SDSU as well and was very critical of the preparation and focus of the players.
Now here we are again just 2 weeks later. In a game that should have had everyones attention they were badly beaten and the takeaway by the HC is the team needs to grow up.
The team has clear talent concerns but the HC speaking about focus, preparation, maturity etc twice in 14 days is a sign the message has been lost. And the HC striking out like this is very poor leadership. You are seeing a lot of this sort of stuff happening all around college football these days. The transfer portal and NIL is a factor in the culture concerns that are showing up around the sport. But are more likely to show up in programs that have massive turnover on the roster every season and a revolving door of staff. And among programs where there is no culture of winning.
It is fine for Wilcox to address this issue with his team. But after a loss and to the media is weak sauce IMO. Behind closed doors with the team. But Justin has always shown a lot of support for his staff and how they coach. But the coaches are also responsible for the recruitment of players. The development of the players. And support of the players. Public airing of issues is not likely to gain traction in the locker room.
I am very certain all the losing and the various games over his tenure where the team seems disconnected wears on Wilcox. So frustration is not unexpected. But I suggest that Wilcox look in the mirror and see how his response to the game impacts things.
We hear repeatedly that the team has a good culture. I do not see that manifest itself on game day. Check out the differences between the Duke sideline and the Cal sideline. Culture is more than the players going bowling together, playing cards, or anything else. It is also how they hold each other accountable. How they respond through adverse moments. I do not see a great football culture . That is on the program. And the leader.
It is hard to lose. But the atmosphere on the Cal sideline was dead even when the game was still within reach. A 10 point deficit at the half at home is hardly insurmountable. Yet it felt that way. SDSU you can write off as an outlier. A one off. But when similar concerns are brought forth just 14 days later after a very consequential and important game for the program it smells like something is rotten in Strawberry Canyon to me.
Is it just talent? That is part of it no doubt. But Justin you never own it. You defer blame to the players either directly or indirectly often. That is not leadership.
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