TedfordTheGreat said:

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Djax might be too aggressive of a choice as a HC imo. But I'd be totally on board as an OC and recruiting coordinator.


IMO we need a dynamic recruiter/personality on staff. I'd be ok with the following:

1. Tosh as HC flanked by 2 former HCs as his OC and DC (like Wilcox when he was first hired)
2. A good Xs and Os coach (Tim Plough) with Desean as his OC and Beast Mode as a special advisor


We need excitement. That's what gets the attention of 18 to 20 year olds. We need to make it easier for our NIL to compete. Most importantly, we need to attract WR talent so we can go to JKS and tell him to stay.


* For those against Tosh. Didn't Wilcox recruit tosh over? I get it, Wilcox was paid by UW while Tosh was paid by us. But Tosh was a young guy, if he comes on, acknowledge what happens, tells me he learned a lesson. I am ok with it. We are all human

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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Djax might be too aggressive of a choice as a HC imo. But I'd be totally on board as an OC and recruiting coordinator.


IMO we need a dynamic recruiter/personality on staff. I'd be ok with the following:

1. Tosh as HC flanked by 2 former HCs as his OC and DC (like Wilcox when he was first hired)
2. A good Xs and Os coach (Tim Plough) with Desean as his OC and Beast Mode as a special advisor


We need excitement. That's what gets the attention of 18 to 20 year olds. We need to make it easier for our NIL to compete. Most importantly, we need to attract WR talent so we can go to JKS and tell him to stay.


* For those against Tosh. Didn't Wilcox recruit tosh over? I get it, Wilcox was paid by UW while Tosh was paid by us. But Tosh was a young guy, if he comes on, acknowledge what happens, tells me he learned a lesson. I am ok with it. We are all human

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I guess I just don't really get why Tosh is that exciting of a choice for head coach.

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Strykur said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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Djax might be too aggressive of a choice as a HC imo. But I'd be totally on board as an OC and recruiting coordinator.


IMO we need a dynamic recruiter/personality on staff. I'd be ok with the following:

1. Tosh as HC flanked by 2 former HCs as his OC and DC (like Wilcox when he was first hired)
2. A good Xs and Os coach (Tim Plough) with Desean as his OC and Beast Mode as a special advisor


We need excitement. That's what gets the attention of 18 to 20 year olds. We need to make it easier for our NIL to compete. Most importantly, we need to attract WR talent so we can go to JKS and tell him to stay.


* For those against Tosh. Didn't Wilcox recruit tosh over? I get it, Wilcox was paid by UW while Tosh was paid by us. But Tosh was a young guy, if he comes on, acknowledge what happens, tells me he learned a lesson. I am ok with it. We are all human

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I guess I just don't really get why Tosh is that exciting of a choice for head coach.

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Out of the candidates that we might have a chance for, he is the most exciting of that bunch

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going4roses said:

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Tosh is not a super recruiter !!! Full stop 15+ yrs ago is not 2025 geez us h Christ

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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Djax might be too aggressive of a choice as a HC imo. But I'd be totally on board as an OC and recruiting coordinator.


IMO we need a dynamic recruiter/personality on staff. I'd be ok with the following:

1. Tosh as HC flanked by 2 former HCs as his OC and DC (like Wilcox when he was first hired)
2. A good Xs and Os coach (Tim Plough) with Desean as his OC and Beast Mode as a special advisor


We need excitement. That's what gets the attention of 18 to 20 year olds. We need to make it easier for our NIL to compete. Most importantly, we need to attract WR talent so we can go to JKS and tell him to stay.


* For those against Tosh. Didn't Wilcox recruit tosh over? I get it, Wilcox was paid by UW while Tosh was paid by us. But Tosh was a young guy, if he comes on, acknowledge what happens, tells me he learned a lesson. I am ok with it. We are all human

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I guess I just don't really get why Tosh is that exciting of a choice for head coach.

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I am assuming that he would bring in a top 25 class, year in and year out. If you know more than i do and say that he wont then perhaps you can convince me that it's not that exciting. I highly doubt a Tim Plough will bring in a top 25 class and that does not get me excited. Is this season is not proof that we just don't have players to keep up (and of course coaching as well)?

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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going4roses said:

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Tosh is not a super recruiter !!! Full stop 15+ yrs ago is not 2025 geez us h Christ

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If thats your take then you need to update yourself on the latest news.

Ever heard of Najee Harris (from Antioch btw)? Tua Tagovailoa? Jaylen Waddle? Trevon Diggs? These are stars, big time starters in the NFL that Tosh can point to and say, yup, i brought them to my college team and then put them in the league.

None of these players are 15 years ago. Who did he recruit 15 years ago since you mentioned it? Keenan Allen, still a star in the league


15 years ago Tosh might be paying people in paper cups and playing xbox and pretending to be a bro. But now he can sell recruits on a track record of success. He has a strong reputation in the industry, he knows high school coaches, and high school coaches know that he puts people in the league. he's found success at Alabama and Oregon of all places as a recruiter. He's their ace. For some reason that's not good enough for you at Cal?

Hate him as a traitor all you want. I won't argue with you about that. Personally I am saying I am over it. But to say that he was only a good recruiter 15 years ago is naive at best.

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Big C said:

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My biggest question about Tosh is, would he be able to assemble a staff that would complement his own strengths and weaknesses?

I could easily forgive his transgressions from years ago.

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Rushinbear said:

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Big C said:

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My biggest question about Tosh is, would he be able to assemble a staff that would complement his own strengths and weaknesses?

I could easily forgive his transgressions from years ago.

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No, that kind of perfidy is wired in. It has the potential of coming out again, if it hasn't already - just not surfaced.

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82gradDLSdad said:

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Rushinbear said:

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Big C said:

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My biggest question about Tosh is, would he be able to assemble a staff that would complement his own strengths and weaknesses?

I could easily forgive his transgressions from years ago.

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No, that kind of perfidy is wired in. It has the potential of coming out again, if it hasn't already - just not surfaced.

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He played under Ladouceur and coached under Tedford, two of the most standup guys in coaching. And he still backstabbed. I wouldn't touch him.

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Fred Bear said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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Rushinbear said:

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Big C said:

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My biggest question about Tosh is, would he be able to assemble a staff that would complement his own strengths and weaknesses?

I could easily forgive his transgressions from years ago.

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No, that kind of perfidy is wired in. It has the potential of coming out again, if it hasn't already - just not surfaced.

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He played under Ladouceur and coached under Tedford, two of the most standup guys in coaching. And he still backstabbed. I wouldn't touch him.

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That so-called standup guy backstabbed Lupoi, having him take the fall (pun intended) for his own scheme to deal with Oregon's no-huddle offense because he resented Lupoi getting all the credit for Cal's recruiting. Doesn't excuse what Lupoi did later, but let's not develop amnesia and forget Tedford's part in all that.

Of course, our fans bought the school's narrative hook, line, and sinker at the time.

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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Fred Bear said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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Rushinbear said:

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Big C said:

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My biggest question about Tosh is, would he be able to assemble a staff that would complement his own strengths and weaknesses?

I could easily forgive his transgressions from years ago.

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No, that kind of perfidy is wired in. It has the potential of coming out again, if it hasn't already - just not surfaced.

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He played under Ladouceur and coached under Tedford, two of the most standup guys in coaching. And he still backstabbed. I wouldn't touch him.

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That so-called standup guy backstabbed Lupoi, having him take the fall (pun intended) for his own scheme to deal with Oregon's no-huddle offense because he resented Lupoi getting all the credit for Cal's recruiting. Doesn't excuse what Lupoi did later, but let's not develop amnesia and forget Tedford's part in all that.

Of course, our fans bought the school's narrative hook, line, and sinker at the time.

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To me, the main story isn't what Tedford did or what Lupoi did. It's what Cal did. After paying half a billion dollars on a new stadium and training facility, it cheaped out on paying an assistant coach who had half the recruiting class hostage. Which is why it doesn't excite me when Cal thinks its spending more money because when it comes to resources, Cal always reverts to the mean. And that is Cal's mean, like taking buses to LA games, not everyone else's mean.

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01Bear said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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Fred Bear said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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Rushinbear said:

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Big C said:

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My biggest question about Tosh is, would he be able to assemble a staff that would complement his own strengths and weaknesses?

I could easily forgive his transgressions from years ago.

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No, that kind of perfidy is wired in. It has the potential of coming out again, if it hasn't already - just not surfaced.

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He played under Ladouceur and coached under Tedford, two of the most standup guys in coaching. And he still backstabbed. I wouldn't touch him.

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That so-called standup guy backstabbed Lupoi, having him take the fall (pun intended) for his own scheme to deal with Oregon's no-huddle offense because he resented Lupoi getting all the credit for Cal's recruiting. Doesn't excuse what Lupoi did later, but let's not develop amnesia and forget Tedford's part in all that.

Of course, our fans bought the school's narrative hook, line, and sinker at the time.

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To me, the main story isn't what Tedford did or what Lupoi did. It's what Cal did. After paying half a billion dollars on a new stadium and training facility, it cheaped out on paying an assistant coach who had half the recruiting class hostage. Which is why it doesn't excite me when Cal thinks its spending more money because when it comes to resources, Cal always reverts to the mean. And that is Cal's mean, like taking buses to LA games, not everyone else's mean.

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Didn't Tedford get the administration to match UW's offer only to have Traitor Tosh go back to UW for an even higher salary? Traitor Tosh was using Cal as a dark horse to raise his salary offer from the Huskies. He wasn't going to stick around at Cal; he just wanted to use Cal to increase his pay with UW.

Screw Traitor Lupoi!

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calumnus said:

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01Bear said:

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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Fred Bear said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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Rushinbear said:

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Big C said:

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My biggest question about Tosh is, would he be able to assemble a staff that would complement his own strengths and weaknesses?

I could easily forgive his transgressions from years ago.

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No, that kind of perfidy is wired in. It has the potential of coming out again, if it hasn't already - just not surfaced.

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He played under Ladouceur and coached under Tedford, two of the most standup guys in coaching. And he still backstabbed. I wouldn't touch him.

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That so-called standup guy backstabbed Lupoi, having him take the fall (pun intended) for his own scheme to deal with Oregon's no-huddle offense because he resented Lupoi getting all the credit for Cal's recruiting. Doesn't excuse what Lupoi did later, but let's not develop amnesia and forget Tedford's part in all that.

Of course, our fans bought the school's narrative hook, line, and sinker at the time.

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To me, the main story isn't what Tedford did or what Lupoi did. It's what Cal did. After paying half a billion dollars on a new stadium and training facility, it cheaped out on paying an assistant coach who had half the recruiting class hostage. Which is why it doesn't excite me when Cal thinks its spending more money because when it comes to resources, Cal always reverts to the mean. And that is Cal's mean, like taking buses to LA games, not everyone else's mean.

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Didn't Tedford get the administration to match UW's offer only to have Traitor Tosh go back to UW for an even higher salary? Traitor Tosh was using Cal as a dark horse to raise his salary offer from the Huskies. He wasn't going to stick around at Cal; he just wanted to use Cal to increase his pay with UW.

Screw Traitor Lupoi!

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Yes, Tedford thought Lupoi was staying and sent him on Cal's last permitted home visit with Shaq Thompson as Cal's rep, where he recruited Shaq to UW to play in Wilcox's defense. Shaq was "confused" because he wasn't hearing from Cal (he took Tosh's visit as a UW visit, even though it counted against Cal). Wilcox, who hired Tosh to UW, followed up with the "UW" visit which the Thompsons said was decisive because Wilcox had coached Shaq's older brother Syd'quan at Cal and "they weren't hearing from Cal."

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