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okaydo
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To go from Wilcox to…

Cal88
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It will be interesting to hear from the players about the change in team culture and training routine under the new management.
Econ141
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Someone should be doing a documentary - while we have lots of new players we also retained a good number from the previous staff. Would be great to see how coaching and culture changes transform a program. 30-for-30 type stuff.
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HKBear97!
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Cal88 said:

It will be interesting to hear from the players about the change in team culture and training routine under the new management.

It will be the same spiel you hear after every coaching change and/or new strength coach is brought in.
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HKBear97! said:

Cal88 said:

It will be interesting to hear from the players about the change in team culture and training routine under the new management.

It will be the same spiel you hear after every coaching change and/or new strength coach is brought in.

Yeah, well, this time IT'S FOR REAL!

lol
82gradDLSdad
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Cal88 said:

It will be interesting to hear from the players about the change in team culture and training routine under the new management.


It will be infinitely more interesting to see how they play... especially when they get knocked on their ass. The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.
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Econ141 said:

Someone should be doing a documentary - while we have lots of new players we also retained a good number from the previous staff. Would be great to see how coaching and culture changes transform a program. 30-for-30 type stuff.

This I agree with. There is a really interesting story here about a kid like Tosh for whom football has mattered a great deal, who goes to the local best public university in the country, goes off, learns craft, comes back.

Now it needs to have the "rise from the ashes and become reincarnation of Pappy" in its last act to actually work and that story hasn't been written but the story is all there if the NPCs cooperate.
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82gradDLSdad said:

The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.


With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.
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BearBoarBlarney said:

With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.

yeah, and just Win Baby matters alot.
82gradDLSdad
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BearBoarBlarney said:

82gradDLSdad said:

The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.


With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.


I'm sure of that. My main contact was an equipment guy who disgruntled players were probably reluctant to open up to.
Goobear
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82gradDLSdad said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

82gradDLSdad said:

The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.


With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.


I'm sure of that. My main contact was an equipment guy who disgruntled players were probably reluctant to open up to.

Guys you can have your own opinion about JW. My son played for him. Most players liked JW a lot. Third party sources…come on now…That being said there are always players who don't like a coach. I agree with that. I also will say JW got a lot done behind the scenes that many of you don't know. I think that the big donors saw that was not enough to get it done and a full court press and change up and down the chain was needed. JW was given a win total to reach, could not get it done and the decision was made to move on. Nothing wrong with that either. Excited for what is ahead. Go Bears!
82gradDLSdad
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Goobear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

82gradDLSdad said:

The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.


With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.


I'm sure of that. My main contact was an equipment guy who disgruntled players were probably reluctant to open up to.

Guys you can have your own opinion about JW. My son played for him. Most players liked JW a lot. Third party sources…come on now…That being said there are always players who don't like a coach. I agree with that. I also will say JW got a lot done behind the scenes that many of you don't know. I think that the big donors saw that was not enough to get it done and a full court press and change up and down the chain was needed. JW was given a win total to reach, could not get it done and the decision was made to move on. Nothing wrong with that either. Excited for what is ahead. Go Bears!


I started off by saying my sources said he was well liked. I was responding to the guy who said there were many disgruntled players. I didn't research that. I just said what I said that if there were they probably kept it among themselves so as not to get in someone's dog house.
calumnus
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82gradDLSdad said:

Goobear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

82gradDLSdad said:

The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.


With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.


I'm sure of that. My main contact was an equipment guy who disgruntled players were probably reluctant to open up to.

Guys you can have your own opinion about JW. My son played for him. Most players liked JW a lot. Third party sources…come on now…That being said there are always players who don't like a coach. I agree with that. I also will say JW got a lot done behind the scenes that many of you don't know. I think that the big donors saw that was not enough to get it done and a full court press and change up and down the chain was needed. JW was given a win total to reach, could not get it done and the decision was made to move on. Nothing wrong with that either. Excited for what is ahead. Go Bears!


I started off by saying my sources said he was well liked. I was responding to the guy who said there were many disgruntled players. I didn't research that. I just said what I said that if there were they probably kept it among themselves so as not to get in someone's dog house.

Or they simply vote with their feet and hit the Portal.
82gradDLSdad
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calumnus said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Goobear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

82gradDLSdad said:

The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.


With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.


I'm sure of that. My main contact was an equipment guy who disgruntled players were probably reluctant to open up to.

Guys you can have your own opinion about JW. My son played for him. Most players liked JW a lot. Third party sources…come on now…That being said there are always players who don't like a coach. I agree with that. I also will say JW got a lot done behind the scenes that many of you don't know. I think that the big donors saw that was not enough to get it done and a full court press and change up and down the chain was needed. JW was given a win total to reach, could not get it done and the decision was made to move on. Nothing wrong with that either. Excited for what is ahead. Go Bears!


I started off by saying my sources said he was well liked. I was responding to the guy who said there were many disgruntled players. I didn't research that. I just said what I said that if there were they probably kept it among themselves so as not to get in someone's dog house.

Or they simply vote with their feet and hit the Portal.


You saw the quality of our starters. You think guys 2nd and 3rd string are getting much in the portal? And those are the guys who probably think Wilcox kept them from playing. Oh well, like I said, I know one guy who was a fairly young equipment mgr who told me most of the players liked Wilcox.
calumnus
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82gradDLSdad said:

calumnus said:

82gradDLSdad said:

Goobear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

82gradDLSdad said:

The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.


With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.


I'm sure of that. My main contact was an equipment guy who disgruntled players were probably reluctant to open up to.

Guys you can have your own opinion about JW. My son played for him. Most players liked JW a lot. Third party sources…come on now…That being said there are always players who don't like a coach. I agree with that. I also will say JW got a lot done behind the scenes that many of you don't know. I think that the big donors saw that was not enough to get it done and a full court press and change up and down the chain was needed. JW was given a win total to reach, could not get it done and the decision was made to move on. Nothing wrong with that either. Excited for what is ahead. Go Bears!


I started off by saying my sources said he was well liked. I was responding to the guy who said there were many disgruntled players. I didn't research that. I just said what I said that if there were they probably kept it among themselves so as not to get in someone's dog house.

Or they simply vote with their feet and hit the Portal.


You saw the quality of our starters. You think guys 2nd and 3rd string are getting much in the portal? And those are the guys who probably think Wilcox kept them from playing. Oh well, like I said, I know one guy who was a fairly young equipment mgr who told me most of the players liked Wilcox.

We regularly lost starters to the Portal under Wilcox as well. I'm not saying it was because they didn't "like" Wilcox as a person. For the most part, we don't know why they left, even if they made a public statement, and every player had their individual decision making and probably had more than one reason.

I will say, "liking" the head coach in football is much less important than it is in basketball where you work directly with the head coach every day.
Big C
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Goobear said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearBoarBlarney said:

82gradDLSdad said:

The few people I knew who had any connection to Wilcox were always positive. "Great guy", players loved him.
Who cares.


With 100+ guys on the football team between scholarship kids and walk-ons, it's hard to keep everyone satisfied, but more than a few players did not love him. At all.


I'm sure of that. My main contact was an equipment guy who disgruntled players were probably reluctant to open up to.

Guys you can have your own opinion about JW. My son played for him. Most players liked JW a lot. Third party sources…come on now…That being said there are always players who don't like a coach. I agree with that. I also will say JW got a lot done behind the scenes that many of you don't know. I think that the big donors saw that was not enough to get it done and a full court press and change up and down the chain was needed. JW was given a win total to reach, could not get it done and the decision was made to move on. Nothing wrong with that either. Excited for what is ahead. Go Bears!

Great post. I'm bought into the "Tosh Era" now, but it doesn't mean Wilcox sucked at every aspect of his job. There were some parts of his job that he was okay at. Good even (for a few things). The main problems he had were recruiting and not letting go of under-performing staff quickly enough. Coach Lup will be better at that.
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