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Oakbear
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New coach , get excited, then reality

As a friend once said "reality is just too real"
remb8888
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Yep was thinking the same
gobears3000
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I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...
chazzed
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The barely-acceptable play by the offensive line, the head-scratching decision-making by the coaching staff, and the injury to JKS are alarming.
01Bear
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gobears3000 said:

I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...

So Alabama's defense was due to Nick Saban and not Tosh? Oregon's defense was due to Lanning, not Tosh? But, but, I was repeatedly informed that Tosh was the common denominator and he was the responsible for those defenses!
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01Bear said:

gobears3000 said:

I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...

So Alabama's defense was due to Nick Saban and not Tosh? Oregon's defense was due to Lanning, not Tosh? But, but, I was repeatedly informed that Tosh was the common denominator and he was the responsible for those defenses!

A GAZZILLION DOLLARS INVESTED IN THEIR PROGRAMS is the key ingredient. Cal no longer has to be poor but we are never going to be resourced at the upper 25% level.
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westcoast101
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Oakbear said:

New coach , get excited, then reality

As a friend once said "reality is just too real"


Completely agree. Another blown opportunity. Tons of fans and yet this program can't get it right. Tosh will be gone in two years.
01Bear
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socaltownie said:

01Bear said:

gobears3000 said:

I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...

So Alabama's defense was due to Nick Saban and not Tosh? Oregon's defense was due to Lanning, not Tosh? But, but, I was repeatedly informed that Tosh was the common denominator and he was the responsible for those defenses!

A GAZZILLION DOLLARS INVESTED IN THEIR PROGRAMS is the key ingredient. Cal no longer has to be poor but we are never going to be resourced at the upper 25% level.

It wasn't Cal's resources that got exposed on the field today. It was the coaching, or lack thereof. Cal got outcoached at all levels today.

Tosh was supposed to be this super recruiter whose Jacks and Joes would prove superior to other coaches' Xs and Os. Then we were told that Tosh was responsible for Saban's and Lanning's defenses. The product on the field today proved all that was just a bunch of hogwash.
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01Bear said:

socaltownie said:

01Bear said:

gobears3000 said:

I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...

So Alabama's defense was due to Nick Saban and not Tosh? Oregon's defense was due to Lanning, not Tosh? But, but, I was repeatedly informed that Tosh was the common denominator and he was the responsible for those defenses!

A GAZZILLION DOLLARS INVESTED IN THEIR PROGRAMS is the key ingredient. Cal no longer has to be poor but we are never going to be resourced at the upper 25% level.

It wasn't Cal's resources that got exposed on the field today. It was the coaching, or lack thereof. Cal got outcoached at all levels today.

Tosh was supposed to be this super recruiter whose Jacks and Joes would prove superior to other coaches' Xs and Os. Then we were told that Tosh was responsible for Saban's and Lanning's defenses. The product on the field today proved all that was just a bunch of hogwash.


No disagreements.
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Strykur
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01Bear said:

socaltownie said:

01Bear said:

gobears3000 said:

I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...

So Alabama's defense was due to Nick Saban and not Tosh? Oregon's defense was due to Lanning, not Tosh? But, but, I was repeatedly informed that Tosh was the common denominator and he was the responsible for those defenses!

A GAZZILLION DOLLARS INVESTED IN THEIR PROGRAMS is the key ingredient. Cal no longer has to be poor but we are never going to be resourced at the upper 25% level.

Tosh was supposed to be this super recruiter whose Jacks and Joes would prove superior to other coaches' Xs and Os. Then we were told that Tosh was responsible for Saban's and Lanning's defenses. The product on the field today proved all that was just a bunch of hogwash.

We aren't going to see any talent like that until next year and beyond anyways, if it's still bad a year from now then that will be obvious
DaddyLegend
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Oakbear said:

New coach , get excited, then reality

As a friend once said "reality is just too real"

But UCLA has a pretty good defense. That's reality.
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DiabloWags
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Oakbear said:

New coach , get excited, then reality

As a friend once said "reality is just too real"


The reality was ALREADY KNOWN ahead of time.
A rookie OC and DC that totally got outcoached.
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01Bear said:

socaltownie said:

01Bear said:

gobears3000 said:

I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...

So Alabama's defense was due to Nick Saban and not Tosh? Oregon's defense was due to Lanning, not Tosh? But, but, I was repeatedly informed that Tosh was the common denominator and he was the responsible for those defenses!

A GAZZILLION DOLLARS INVESTED IN THEIR PROGRAMS is the key ingredient. Cal no longer has to be poor but we are never going to be resourced at the upper 25% level.

It wasn't Cal's resources that got exposed on the field today. It was the coaching, or lack thereof. Cal got outcoached at all levels today.

Tosh was supposed to be this super recruiter whose Jacks and Joes would prove superior to other coaches' Xs and Os. Then we were told that Tosh was responsible for Saban's and Lanning's defenses. The product on the field today proved all that was just a bunch of hogwash.

The biggest problem I see is how badly they completely folded and how quickly they packed it in. Inspiring young men was supposed to be the strength of this staff. I could almost forgive the lousy play calling and call it growing pains.

We played a team that won 3 last year. There seems to be general agreement that we were outcoached, out talented, and outworked. Outcoached wasn't totally unexpected. But when you hire a guy for his recruiting and who is supposedly supposed to be able to light a fire under young guys, and you give him more resources than any Cal coach has gotten, you don't expect to be totally out talented and you certainly don't expect the team to pack it in before triple zeroes.
LodeBear
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Pretty bad showing. All hype and no show. Hope the commits don't. Change their minds.
DaddyLegend
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LodeBear said:

Pretty bad showing. All hype and no show. Hope the commits don't. Change their minds.

C'mon man. It was tied after 3.
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calumnus
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BearlyCareAnymore said:

01Bear said:

socaltownie said:

01Bear said:

gobears3000 said:

I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...

So Alabama's defense was due to Nick Saban and not Tosh? Oregon's defense was due to Lanning, not Tosh? But, but, I was repeatedly informed that Tosh was the common denominator and he was the responsible for those defenses!

A GAZZILLION DOLLARS INVESTED IN THEIR PROGRAMS is the key ingredient. Cal no longer has to be poor but we are never going to be resourced at the upper 25% level.

It wasn't Cal's resources that got exposed on the field today. It was the coaching, or lack thereof. Cal got outcoached at all levels today.

Tosh was supposed to be this super recruiter whose Jacks and Joes would prove superior to other coaches' Xs and Os. Then we were told that Tosh was responsible for Saban's and Lanning's defenses. The product on the field today proved all that was just a bunch of hogwash.

The biggest problem I see is how badly they completely folded and how quickly they packed it in. Inspiring young men was supposed to be the strength of this staff. I could almost forgive the lousy play calling and call it growing pains.

We played a team that won 3 last year. There seems to be general agreement that we were outcoached, out talented, and outworked. Outcoached wasn't totally unexpected. But when you hire a guy for his recruiting and who is supposedly supposed to be able to light a fire under young guys, and you give him more resources than any Cal coach has gotten, you don't expect to be totally out talented and you certainly don't expect the team to pack it in before triple zeroes.



UCLA was slightly better than Cal last year, according to Sagarin. Their schedule and the B1G was just tougher than our schedule and the ACC. We both had good Portal classes, but Chesney's heavily relied on players he had on his JMU squad that he coached made the CFP last year, including the second team All American RB that we had so much trouble bringing down tonight.

We appeared to make good halftime adjustments or at least came out motivated and tied it up then had the ball back with momentum when the botched (early) snap on 4th down happened. I'm not sure why there was so much crowd noise. Still, the defense held and got us the ball back. We did not play well, but it didn't seem we "gave up" until the end, when the game got out of reach at the end of the 4th quarter we gave up two very easy scores.
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calumnus said:


UCLA was slightly better than Cal last year, according to Sagarin. Their schedule and the B1G was just tougher than our schedule and the ACC. We both had good Portal classes, but Chesney's heavily relied on players he had on his JMU squad that he coached made the CFP last year, including the second team All American RB that we had so much trouble bringing down tonight.

We appeared to make good halftime adjustments or at least came out motivated and tied it up then had the ball back with momentum when the botched (early) snap on 4th down happened. I'm not sure why there was so much crowd noise. Still, the defense held and got us the ball back. We did not play well, but it didn't seem we "gave up" until the end, when the game got out of reach at the end of the 4th quarter we gave up two very easy scores.



I was also wondering why there was so much crowd noise on the botched 4th down when watching the game on TV. I texted my friend at the game and apparently they had "Get Loud" on the screens during that play...
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Jojo said:

calumnus said:


UCLA was slightly better than Cal last year, according to Sagarin. Their schedule and the B1G was just tougher than our schedule and the ACC. We both had good Portal classes, but Chesney's heavily relied on players he had on his JMU squad that he coached made the CFP last year, including the second team All American RB that we had so much trouble bringing down tonight.

We appeared to make good halftime adjustments or at least came out motivated and tied it up then had the ball back with momentum when the botched (early) snap on 4th down happened. I'm not sure why there was so much crowd noise. Still, the defense held and got us the ball back. We did not play well, but it didn't seem we "gave up" until the end, when the game got out of reach at the end of the 4th quarter we gave up two very easy scores.



I was also wondering why there was so much crowd noise on the botched 4th down when watching the game on TV. I texted my friend at the game and apparently they had "Get Loud" on the screens during that play...



I had thought that we were trying to draw them offsides, and extra crowd noise would have added more chaos in an attempt to do so. Little did I know we were actually intending to go for it…
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calumnus said:

BearlyCareAnymore said:

01Bear said:

socaltownie said:

01Bear said:

gobears3000 said:

I agree. Surprisingly, what was supposed to be one of the strengths of this coaching staff, is not coming to fruition on defense. Hopefully we can get it together in the second half, we will see...

So Alabama's defense was due to Nick Saban and not Tosh? Oregon's defense was due to Lanning, not Tosh? But, but, I was repeatedly informed that Tosh was the common denominator and he was the responsible for those defenses!

A GAZZILLION DOLLARS INVESTED IN THEIR PROGRAMS is the key ingredient. Cal no longer has to be poor but we are never going to be resourced at the upper 25% level.

It wasn't Cal's resources that got exposed on the field today. It was the coaching, or lack thereof. Cal got outcoached at all levels today.

Tosh was supposed to be this super recruiter whose Jacks and Joes would prove superior to other coaches' Xs and Os. Then we were told that Tosh was responsible for Saban's and Lanning's defenses. The product on the field today proved all that was just a bunch of hogwash.

The biggest problem I see is how badly they completely folded and how quickly they packed it in. Inspiring young men was supposed to be the strength of this staff. I could almost forgive the lousy play calling and call it growing pains.

We played a team that won 3 last year. There seems to be general agreement that we were outcoached, out talented, and outworked. Outcoached wasn't totally unexpected. But when you hire a guy for his recruiting and who is supposedly supposed to be able to light a fire under young guys, and you give him more resources than any Cal coach has gotten, you don't expect to be totally out talented and you certainly don't expect the team to pack it in before triple zeroes.



UCLA was slightly better than Cal last year, according to Sagarin. Their schedule and the B1G was just tougher than our schedule and the ACC. We both had good Portal classes, but Chesney's heavily relied on players he had on his JMU squad that he coached made the CFP last year, including the second team All American RB that we had so much trouble bringing down tonight.

We appeared to make good halftime adjustments or at least came out motivated and tied it up then had the ball back with momentum when the botched (early) snap on 4th down happened. I'm not sure why there was so much crowd noise. Still, the defense held and got us the ball back. We did not play well, but it didn't seem we "gave up" until the end, when the game got out of reach at the end of the 4th quarter we gave up two very easy scores.


Look, Sagarin is a useful metric, but it is an algorithm that doesn't substitute for obvious human judgment. Winning 3 is not better.
JimSox
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Blocking, tackling, good coaching schemes. Without those elements you're not gonna beat anybody good. Add in dropped passes and lack of team speed. Even 110 yards in UCLA penalties could not bail us out.
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