Cal Fight Song and UCLA

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NoExtraPoint
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Not enough for you? ok

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JelaniMcBlunted;390485 said:

That's Cal's bad. Perhaps if Cal wasn't an also ran in virtually every sport conceivable for the better part of a century, people would view it as Cal's fight song. Unfortunately for Cal 106 national championships talk and whining jealous tools walk.


Take away your pyramid of cheating, and how many of those are you left with? Probably very few.

So why don't you just walk away.
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JelaniMcBlunted;390485 said:

That's Cal's bad. Perhaps if Cal wasn't an also ran in virtually every sport conceivable for the better part of a century, people would view it as Cal's fight song. Unfortunately for Cal 106 national championships talk and whining jealous tools walk.


...you could at least have stolen one from a winner.

Apropos, are you sure you wouldn't rather play Fight On? That combined with your location might actually have some folks thinking you count for something.
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BancroftSteps;390702 said:

You know, it is a very douchebag campus if you think about it. Those colors are very douchey.




I've never understood why douchebag was an insult. A douchebag delivers the water for cleaning certain body cavities, but it doesn't receive the, for lack of a better word, backwash. Now, colostomy bag not only sounds dirty, but it's full of sh!t and you empty it out so you can sh!t in it some more.
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berserkeley;390653 said:

Just to clarify, the UCLA band director wrote the UCLA bastardization of "Big C" as a tribute to the UC. I know you stated it correctly, but some might think "Big C" (the glorious original Cal version) was written as a tribute to the UC when it is a tribute to our rugged eastern foothills where our symbol stands, true and bold, which mean fight, strive, and win for blue and gold because there's a golden bear, ever watching, who prowls day by day and when he hears the tread of lowly Stanfurd red, from his lair, he fiercely growls. What's he say?


Exactly! It is a tribute to the Big "C" on our "our rugged eastern foothills" i.e. above Memorial Stadium in Berkeley and focuses on our rivalry with Stanford. It was written before there was a Southern Branch. Like "Stanford Jonah" (written the same year) there is no way it could ever be construed as having been written for all of the UC campuses or is in any way applicable to all the UC campus. "Hail to California" might work, but definitely not "Big C."
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calumnus;390921 said:

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Originally Posted by berserkeley
Just to clarify, the UCLA band director wrote the UCLA bastardization of "Big C" as a tribute to the UC.

[COLOR="Blue"]Actually, the assistant director of the LA band wrote the arrangement to be played by the combined bands of UC, LA, Davis, and Santa Barbara at the last All-U Weekend. They also played an LA song (back when they still had one). Neither was intended as a tribute to the UC system. [/COLOR]

Exactly! It is a tribute to the Big "C" on our "our rugged eastern foothills" i.e. above Memorial Stadium in Berkeley and focuses on our rivalry with Stanford. It was written before there was a Southern Branch. Like "Stanford Jonah" (written the same year) there is no way it could ever be construed as having been written for all of the UC campuses or is in any way applicable to all the UC campus. "Hail to California" might work, but definitely not "Big C."


[COLOR="Blue"]Hail to California is an interesting case. Of course, it was written by and for us, but the regents at some point declared it common, system-wide property. As far as I know it is rarely played by the others, but it is still tainted by the regents declaration.

This is a perfect example of the regents sticking their nose where it doesn't belong and was never intended to be. Their role is to establish broad guidelines and control finances. They were never intended to get into minutiae such as which song is played where, and whenever they have ventured into these areas they have made a balls of it. Changing our name is another, perhaps better, example.

A pox be upon them.[/COLOR]
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GoldenGeezer;390944 said:

[COLOR="Blue"]Hail to California is an interesting case. Of course, it was written by and for us, but the regents at some point declared it common, system-wide property. As far as I know it is rarely played by the others, but it is still tainted by the regents declaration.[/COLOR]

I went to a UC Davis basketball game in the 90s and their Band played Hail to California before the tip-off. I thought that was kind of cool.

I don't have a problem with a system-wide Alma Mater, but I do wish the fUCLA Band would stop playing Sons of Westwood.
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Don't forget that USC also stole Furd's "All Right Now". The outrage!
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2ndTrumpetBear;391062 said:

I went to a UC Davis basketball game in the 90s and their Band played Hail to California before the tip-off. I thought that was kind of cool.

I don't have a problem with a system-wide Alma Mater, but I do wish the fUCLA Band would stop playing Sons of Westwood.


I believe that Davis also uses "Sons of California" as their fight song, but it is with the explicit consent of Cal, not stolen as was done by the southern branch with "Big 'C'".
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CalBear68;391151 said:

I believe that Davis also uses "Sons of California" as their fight song, but it is with the explicit consent of Cal, not stolen as was done by the southern branch with "Big 'C'".


At the time that Sons, Big C, Hail to Calif, etc were written, Davis was *part* of Cal!!! *Of course* they can use it!!! They're part of us that grew up to be able to be on their own and do us proud, not a satellite campus of San Jose State (believe it or not that's what ucla was in the beginning- a so cal branch of the San Jose Normal School, spun off to meet the need for teachers in LA) that was grafted onto us against our wishes because of political pressure from LA.
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