NFL.com is reporting that Cam Jordan ran an unofficial 4.71 at the combine. That's pretty darn good for a guy his size who can play DE in a 3-4 or 4-3, faster than a lot of Cal LBs from previous years (e.g. faster than Bishop and Follett). Extremely impressive!

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/02/28/unofficial-40-yard-dash-times-for-d-linemen/

Unit2Sucks;481781 said:

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NFL.com is reporting that Cam Jordan ran an unofficial 4.71 at the combine. That's pretty darn good for a guy his size who can play DE in a 3-4 or 4-3, faster than a lot of Cal LBs from previous years (e.g. faster than Bishop and Follett). Extremely impressive!

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/02/28/unofficial-40-yard-dash-times-for-d-linemen/

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iirc that's not faster than follett. remember follett at 4.5 according to scout (too lazy to look up though).

Haashole;481791 said:

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iirc that's not faster than follett. remember follett at 4.5 according to scout (too lazy to look up though).

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You might be thinking about scout's time for follett's unofficial 40-yard dash for his high school profile, which everyone will tell you shouldn't be taken too seriously.

Follett's 40-yard dash at the combine was 4.69.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=58115&draftyear=2009&genpos=olb

I think OLB/DE Dontay Mock (Nevada) might have increased his draft stock:

40 time: 4.44
Vertical: 42 inches
Broad Jump: 10'8"

I remember him getting a lot of hype when we played them last year...

4.78 official, good for 10th best among the DL. Dontay Moch's 4.44 official is INSANE for a DL 40.

cbadbear;481805 said:

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I think OLB/DE Dontay Mock (Nevada) might have increased his draft stock:

40 time: 4.44
Vertical: 42 inches
Broad Jump: 10'8"

I remember him getting a lot of hype when we played them last year...

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those are impressive numbers, but he was being hyped as a guy who allegedly ran a 4.25 i think at some point.

that vertical is insane though.

LafayetteBear;481806 said:

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It's just ridiculous how little love Cam Jordan gets from the national media. If you go to sports.yahoo.com today and click on the video discussions of d-linemen at the draft, you will hear nothing about Jordan. They even have Mooch doing his mock draft and saying nothing about Jordan. Great article about him in the Chron, but that is local coverage.

Hopefully the 4,71 forty (if that is true, that is a just an incredible time for a d-lineman), will get him some more positive pub.

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Where ya been LB?.... The last couple weeks just about every analyst and prognosticator were drooling over Cam Jordan at the Senior Bowl...and now he is among the big boys, he still has been picked in numerous mock drafts as a 1st rounder.... . You might have stumbled upon some sites that didn't say much but he has rec'd his dues big time... Remember, there are a few other D-linemen ahead of him who are very good players....

What I see in most mock drafts...

Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina

Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri

Cameron Jordan, DE, California

LafayetteBear;481806 said:

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It's just ridiculous how little love Cam Jordan gets from the national media. If you go to sports.yahoo.com today and click on the video discussions of d-linemen at the draft, you will hear nothing about Jordan. They even have Mooch doing his mock draft and saying nothing about Jordan. Great article about him in the Chron, but that is local coverage.

Hopefully the 4,71 forty (if that is true, that is a just an incredible time for a d-lineman), will get him some more positive pub.

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They seemed to have been impressed with his use of the word plethora. Isn't that enough?

ManBear;481812 said:

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those are impressive numbers, but he was being hyped as a guy who allegedly ran a 4.25 i think at some point.

that vertical is insane though.

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Exactly. He somehow got significantly slower despite training to run a 40 as fast as possible for the last 3 months. 4.44 is phenomenal for sure, but the hype about his 40 time was ridiculous.

LafayetteBear;481835 said:

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CF2: I've been here, CF2. I see Jordan named in several mock drafts, usually in the teens. (Apparently, the Pats love him. Too bad, because I detest the Hoodie, and the Pats.)

Provide me with a link to even ONE NFL Network or ESPN segment in which they sing the praises of Jordan (as opposed to Dareus, Quinn, Fairley or Bowers, or a host of other dudes who will likely be drafted below Jordan). Perhaps you can, but I have not seen it yet.

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Sorry LB...I don't have a link and I admit that most of his kudos came during the senior bowl....but I've heard him talked about several times....I have heard a lot about Fairly, Dareus and Quinn...but those guys are very good... you may have a point due to some bias. In the end, the scouts are the ones that matter as we saw with Alualu.... the talking heads usually are wrong half the time anyway.....

The thing is Moch is a 240 LB whereas Jordan is a 285-290 DE

4.78 is still pretty good. Agreed Moch's time is great for an OLB, but he's giving up 30+ LBs to Cameron, so not really a comparison.

As for Follett - pretty sure his official at the combine was 4.75, so he just beat out Cameron, despite being 50 lbs lighter.

Here's a link: http://www.mahalo.com/nfl-combine/

Cam can probably play a 4-3 DE or 3tech DT as well as a 3-4 DT. Moch will only line up outside, with his vert/40 etc..I could see him as a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 WDE...even possibly a Will Linebacker.

I think you mean 3-4 DE but yeah, Cam can line up anywhere but 3-4 NT--except of course on 3rd down, where he could do that as well.

Drop him into coverage on a zone blitz as well.

ESPN has plenty of blogs mentioning Jordan; here's a convenient link: http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/tag/_/name/cameron-jordan.

:gobears:

Lots of positive stuff in the blogs, but this one made me LOL:

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Jordan checked into the combine at 6-foot-4 and 287 pounds. He played left end in Cal's 4-3 defense, but he isn't concerned with switching to a 3-4 position -- possibly outside linebacker -- or punter, by the sounds of it.

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Way to do your research, guys.

elpbear;481880 said:

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Lots of positive stuff in the blogs, but this one made me LOL:Way to do your research, guys.

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Quote:

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Jordan checked into the combine at 6-foot-4 and 287 pounds. He played left end in Cal's 4-3 defense, but he isn't concerned with switching to a 3-4 position -- possibly outside linebacker -- or punter, by the sounds of it.

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hahahaha....that made me laugh...how can you take someone seriously with that glaring of a mistake.....good lord...

SanDiegoBlueCheese;481869 said:

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I think you mean 3-4 DE but yeah, Cam can line up anywhere but 3-4 NT--except of course on 3rd down, where he could do that as well.

Drop him into coverage on a zone blitz as well.

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No I mean DT, in a 3-4 most DE/DTs play 5 tech or 4i. Some classify them as DTs..some DEs. We ran a 3-3-5 and we always classified them as DTs. I think its mainly how you use them too..do you use them to spill..or to contain.

MinotStateBeav;481895 said:

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No I mean DT, in a 3-4 most DE/DTs play 5 tech or 4i. Some classify them as DTs..some DEs. We ran a 3-3-5 and we always classified them as DTs. I think its mainly how you use them too..do you use them to spill..or to contain.

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It certainly changed from Bob Gregory to Clancy though didn't it?... with BG it was much more contain and thus Jordan was more of a DT in that respect.. under Clancy, he was more freed up for rushing the passer so more of a DE....either way, at the Senior Bowl or it's practices more precisely, Jordan played both DE and DT and did well at both...in fact, some say he was more dominant at the DT position.

Wouldn't you think his 10 yard shuttle time is more relevant than the 40 yard dash?

LafayetteBear;481901 said:

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I admit that there's lots of good stuff about Jordan in the blogs. I just haven't seen any love for him on actual TV reports. I missed the Senior Bowl game telecast, and perhaps he got some love there, but he didn't get any in the Senior Bowl pre-game workouts I watched, nor has he gotten any in the ESPN segments I have since watched concerning the NFL Draft. Maybe it is because he is a bit of a 'tweener at this point (big for a DE but small for a DT)? Does anyone think the 'tweener label might fit him? I think he ultimately plays at DE in the NFL.

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Here's some love ......

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6058763




short mention but on list of best DL.... "most versatile of the DE's"




Mel Kiper giving some love..... (about halfway through)

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6087000

Haashole;481791 said:

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iirc that's not faster than follett. remember follett at 4.5 according to scout (too lazy to look up though).

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If Follet were running 4.5, he'd be a first round pick.

elpbear;481880 said:

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Lots of positive stuff in the blogs, but this one made me LOL:Way to do your research, guys.

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Don't criticize someone for not doing their homework when you guys made the same mistake. The next sentence in the article explains where "punter" came from.

Jordan checked into the combine at 6-foot-4 and 287 pounds. He played left end in Cal's 4-3 defense, but he isn't concerned with switching to a 3-4 position -- possibly outside linebacker -- or punter, by the sounds of it.

"My motto is: Draft me, and I'll play anywhere," Jordan said. "I don't care where I play. I just want to be on the team. I want to play football. That's what I love doing.

JerseyGoldenBear;481973 said:

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Don't criticize someone for not doing their homework when you guys made the same mistake. The next sentence in the article explains where "punter" came from.

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I was talking about the statement that Cam played in a 4-3 defense at Cal, not the punter comment, which was amusing.

For the record, if I had to guess, the question was probably whether he would consider switching from a 3-4 DL to a 4-3 or 3-4 LB (a la Andre Carter).

on espn, they have sam acho at 27 lbs. Thats why he ran .08 seconds faster than the 283 lbs Cam Jordan
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player?id=27226&_slug_=sam-acho&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft%2fplayer%3fid%3d27226%26_slug_%3dsam-acho

JerseyGoldenBear;481973 said:

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Don't criticize someone for not doing their homework when you guys made the same mistake. The next sentence in the article explains where "punter" came from. Jordan checked into the combine at 6-foot-4 and 287 pounds. He played left end in Cal's 4-3 defense, but he isn't concerned with switching to a 3-4 position -- possibly outside linebacker -- or punter, by the sounds of it.

"My motto is: Draft me, and I'll play anywhere," Jordan said. "I don't care where I play. I just want to be on the team. I want to play football. That's what I love doing.

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We all know the Cam Jordan was our second best punter,:sarc: people were making comments about playing in a 4-3 defense. Maybe you should do your homework.

pnaidu;482000 said:

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on espn, they have sam acho at 27 lbs. Thats why he ran .08 seconds faster than the 283 lbs Cam Jordan
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player?id=27226&_slug_=sam-acho&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft%2fplayer%3fid%3d27226%26_slug_%3dsam-acho

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haha...he must have secretly on the Coach Marshall diet...