somewhat OT: allegedly racist foxsports/USC video

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CalBearinLA
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BearsWiin;562365 said:

And I won't. But if you wanna cyber, maybe you can get me to send you a pic of my junk.


lol, pulling a sexual reference out of the blue. how cablasian of you.
CrimsonBear
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BearsWiin;562365 said:

And I won't. But if you wanna cyber, maybe you can get me to send you a pic of my junk.


brett, is that you? are you coming out of retirement?
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CalBearinLA;562368 said:

lol, pulling a sexual reference out of the blue. how cablasian of you.


It might help you answer the query that seems so important to you, that's all.
93gobears
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This thread sounds like a bunch of people fighting over who has been offended more.

You asians crack me up. :rollinglaugh:
CalBearinLA
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93gobears;562378 said:

This thread sounds like a bunch of people fighting over who has been offended more.

You asians crack me up. :rollinglaugh:



it's fun to poke and see how some posters will react. Blacks crack me up.

but nonetheless, pretty telling when they have to resort to their junk to prove themselves.


I had fun tonight. Hope there is another thread like this tomorrow!
Baron Humongous
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Damn! That's so Racist (with a capital R) that even the "tha's wacis'" gif doesn't do it justice.

If this was a riff on international students and college football, why not ask students from Ghana, Lebanon, and the Ukraine to welcome Utah and Colorado to the Pac-12? Why only kids from SE and NE Asia?

It'd be funny to see the unedited footage of this lame bit. How many third generation Asian American kids did the comedian mistakenly pull over, who were native speakers and passionate/knowledgeable of SuC football, and had to be cut out?
BearyWhite
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Baron Humongous;562452 said:

If this was a riff on international students and college football, why not ask students from Ghana, Lebanon, and the Ukraine to welcome Utah and Colorado to the Pac-12? Why only kids from SE and NE Asia?
the funny thing is, if they had included a variety of regions they might actually have come up with something moderately clever illustrating the international makeup of USC. The sad thing is that they may have thought they were doing that.
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BearyWhite;562480 said:

the funny thing is, if they had included a variety of regions they might actually have come up with something moderately clever illustrating the international makeup of USC. The sad thing is that they may have thought they were doing that.


I doubt that. I assume that the overwhelming majority of Asians on the USC campus speak English without any accent whatsoever - like most Latinos. They are in college for crying out loud. The host was having too much fun with (at the expense of) his interviewees for this to have been accidental,

Only Barak Obama would not call this guy out as a racist.
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68great;562496 said:

I doubt that. I assume that the overwhelming majority of Asians on the USC campus speak English without any accent whatsoever - like most Latinos. They are in college for crying out loud. The host was having too much fun with (at the expense of) his interviewees for this to have been accidental,

Only Barak Obama would not call this guy out as a racist.


Not sure what the President of the United States has to do with this, but you misspelled his name. FYI.

(Also not sure why I'm still reading this thread).
okaydo
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/fox-sports-cancels-show-that-mocked-asians-at-usc.html
BearyWhite
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maxer;562544 said:

Not sure what the President of the United States has to do with this, but you misspelled his name. FYI.
Variations in transliteration of the Kenyan alphabet makes for a few accepted spellings.




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1. Fox Sports cancelled the show today and listed the racist video as the reason.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/fox-sports-cancels-show-that-mocked-asians-at-usc.html


2. This is my favorite story that Harry Edwards used to tell. He lived in the Berkeley or Oakland hills with the rich folks, and one day he was mowing the lawn out front. An elderly woman walked by and complimented him on the good job he was doing and she inquired about maybe hiring him. She assumed Edwards was a hired gardener, not a home owner in the hills. The woman asked "How much does this house pay you?" and Edwards replied "Nothing." "Why that's horrible!" the old lady said, and Edwards replied, "Yes, but I get to sleep with the wife of the house's owner."
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TheAdvisingBear;562916 said:

1. Fox Sports cancelled the show today and listed the racist video as the reason.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/fox-sports-cancels-show-that-mocked-asians-at-usc.html


2. This is my favorite story that Harry Edwards used to tell. He lived in the Berkeley or Oakland hills with the rich folks, and one day he was mowing the lawn out front. An elderly woman walked by and complimented him on the good job he was doing and she inquired about maybe hiring him. She assumed Edwards was a hired gardener, not a home owner in the hills. The woman asked "How much does this house pay you?" and Edwards replied "Nothing." "Why that's horrible!" the old lady said, and Edwards replied, "Yes, but I get to sleep with the wife of the house's owner."



Sorry, I'm calling b.s. on his story.
BearyWhite
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grandmastapoop;563080 said:

Sorry, I'm calling b.s. on his story.
it didn't read like a story that was meant to be taken as literal truth
freshfunk
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CrimsonBear;561879 said:


we CAN laugh at ourselves. it's the other people laughing at us for being different that is offensive and racist. and let's put this in context. i make fun of asians (i am asian) with my friends all the time. i have quite a diverse group of friends. in my close group of cal friends, we literally have an asian, a white person, two black people and a latin person. we bust each other's races and our own respective races.

we are not producing a segment on fox and showing it on a major cable network.


Along these same lines, this is why I find it acceptable for Dave Chappelle to joke about black stereotypes and Russell Peters to joke about asian stereotypes. They belong to these groups and can (more legitimately) claim some ownership to the group that they are joking about. This means that as a member of this group, we/they are often the subject of these stereotypes and that earns to the right to joke about it.

The appropriate analogy here is Cal fans making fun of Cal football. We can joke about getting blown up or owned. We can joke about an embarrassing play/game or even about hippies, tree sitters and communists even if none of us are like that. Having lived and been on the receiving end of such pain/humor, we own it.

But if someone from U$C or Stanfurd were to do the same, you can bet that we would stick up for our alma mater.
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BearyWhite;563219 said:

it didn't read like a story that was meant to be taken as literal truth


Then it's stupid and I'm sure he could have used actual stories that are meant to be taken as literal truth.
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"For the life of me, I don't see why people have to make
fun of us normal people a'tryin' to make a'livin'!"


Here are the confused but colorful TV producer, technical writers, and TV editors......
freshfunk
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My personal take is this (as a 2nd-gen asian-american):

I am not highly offended.

I found the video to be in poor taste because it preys on people who are clearly not "all-american" and they clearly targeted visiting asians / recent asian immigrants (not africans, middle-easterners, etc.). The "humor" is just horrible.

Would I stand in a picket line or send someone a letter over this? No. On a scale of 1 to 10 of being offended, this is like a 3.

But will I tell other asians who are offended to quit being so sensitive? Will I tell them to sit down and shut up? Hell no.

IMO, we need people to make a stink. The more you let the small stuff slide, the more you're likely to see even more outrageous stuff happen. This is particularly true of media where the envelope is often pushed and controversy is courted in order to push up ratings. The Fox network is a great example of this.

This doesn't mean we can't laugh at ourselves. But laughing at ourselves is different than others laughing at you.
BearyWhite
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drunkoski;563231 said:

it's not? pretty inflamitory thing to make up. i'd hope this isn't edwards attempting to read people's minds. he likes to do that and many times with a rather distinct lack of accuracy.
I don't know anything about him, but that story reads like something with a base in fact (like, a passerby probably asked in earnest how much he charged to mow lawns) that's been honed into a joke over the years.
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To paraphrase an old Seinfeld riff, it's not the ethnic stereotyping that offends me, it's the complete absence of humor that is so offensive.

this is just a lame and completely mean spirited.

freshfunk;563247 said:

My personal take is this (as a 2nd-gen asian-american):

I am not highly offended.

I found the video to be in poor taste because it preys on people who are clearly not "all-american" and they clearly targeted visiting asians / recent asian immigrants (not africans, middle-easterners, etc.). The "humor" is just horrible.

Would I stand in a picket line or send someone a letter over this? No. On a scale of 1 to 10 of being offended, this is like a 3.

But will I tell other asians who are offended to quit being so sensitive? Will I tell them to sit down and shut up? Hell no.

IMO, we need people to make a stink. The more you let the small stuff slide, the more you're likely to see even more outrageous stuff happen. This is particularly true of media where the envelope is often pushed and controversy is courted in order to push up ratings. The Fox network is a great example of this.

This doesn't mean we can't laugh at ourselves. But laughing at ourselves is different than others laughing at you.
BearyWhite
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xultaif;563305 said:

To paraphrase an old Seinfeld riff, it's not the ethnic stereotyping that offends me, it's the complete absence of humor that is so offensive.

this is just a lame and completely mean spirited.
+1

I've never worked at a tv station so don't know the whole process, but at the absolute least you had an editor, producer and technical staffers who saw the final product and thought "this is some funny sh!t"
68great
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drunkoski;563252 said:

agree with you freshfunk. the "all-american" comment was the one that really offended me.


As a fairly dark Latino male who served his country during era of the Vietnam War, this is one phrase that really sticks in my craw(sp?): "All American" being applied to a blond blue-eyed male or female -- heck you could use "Aryan" with more justification.
93gobears
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drunkoski;563252 said:

agree with you freshfunk. the "all-american" comment was the one that really offended me.


Perhaps you can build up upon your staement: "the 'all-american' comment was the one that really offended me."

I didn't really see that from the commentary. Perhaps I was too insensitive. Could you explain why you feel that way?

You seem to have such strong opinions about certain subjects, most of which I dismiss. Am I wrong? Could you please explain the formulation of your unequivocal answers?

I'd really like to know.
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68great;563531 said:

As a fairly dark Latino male who served his country during era of the Vietnam War, this is one phrase that really sticks in my craw(sp?): "All American" being applied to a blond blue-eyed male or female -- heck you could use "Aryan" with more justification.


Grow a set of balls. And before you start throwing around words like "Aryan" perhaps you should THINK how such an name implicates persons born of a particular skin, hair and eye color.

If you don't get the implication then that's, ... fey
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93gobears;563693 said:

Perhaps you can build up upon your staement: "the 'all-american' comment was the one that really offended me."

I didn't really see that from the commentary. Perhaps I was too insensitive. Could you explain why you feel that way?

You seem to have such strong opinions about certain subjects, most of which I dismiss. Am I wrong? Could you please explain the formulation of your unequivocal answers?

I'd really like to know.



Are you this unlikeable in real life? If you have Asperger's, I apologize.
BearyWhite
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93gobears;563698 said:

Grow a set of balls. And before you start throwing around words like "Aryan" perhaps you should THINK how such an name implicates persons born of a particular skin, hair and eye color.
lol!

wait you were being sarcastic, right?
 
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