Didnt hear his name or see him in the game. Anyone notice our missing starting LB? Hope to see him in action against the buffs.

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He played, but McCain and Whiteside are better players who just aren't quite up to speed with the system. The more those 2 guys pick up the defense, the less we will see of Campo.

he started and played a lot of the game. didnt have much of an impact though

He's starting the Colorado game.

Wilkerson's in there too and seems to be the natural replacement for Kendricks next year. Its good to hear that he was in there adding to some of our depth.

SurvivorOf1and10fkaLEA;563255 said:

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He played, but McCain and Whiteside are better players who just aren't quite up to speed with the system. The more those 2 guys pick up the defense, the less we will see of Campo.

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No, you're flat wrong. Their arguably more talented players, but read the coaches comments. The young guys are playing passing downs for the most part, in part because they aren't up to speed, but there is more to it than that...say about 20 pounds. Now, next year, the year after, it may well be a different story, but run defense in the 3-4 for an OLB is pretty tough at 220.

WarTime Consigliere;563256 said:

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he started and played a lot of the game. didnt have much of an impact though

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He basically played run downs only and played well. Held the point very well; did not get blown out whereas Wilkerson did on a few occasions.

Like it or not, he's a good run defender.

If anybody is "flat wrong," you are "flat wrong." Look at the roster. The difference in weight between Campo and Whiteside and McCain isn't 20 pounds. Whiteside is 232 lbs and McCain is 233 lbs. In 2007, two of our starting linebackers Follett and Felder played at 232 and 231, respectively.

I've read virtually every coach comment that has been made and not once have I heard anyone say that McCain or Whiteside are too light to play the run. I've heard Campo referred to as "assignment sound" and that the younger guys need to become more "consistent." Not once have I heard anyone say that McCain and Whiteside are 20 pounds too light to play against the run. Where did you ever hear or see that? It is your "flat wrong" personal opinion or baseless inference.

McCain and Whiteside were both consensus 4-star recruits with offers all over the country. They impressed people during spring and fall camps. There is a reason why people were shocked to hear that Campo would be the starter. And, although he started against Fresno, Campo recorded less tackles than Marv Jones. McCain and Whiteside combined for 4 tackles, 1 sack, and 1 FF. Scarlett and Davis even account for 2 tackles and a sack. Campo accumulated zero stats.

So, how am I "flat wrong" for being of the opinion that we have better OLBs than Campo?

A good run defender? Played well? He accumulated 0 stats in the game. He has less tackles than Marv Jones.

What are you basing this on? Point me to one play in the game where he had an impact in stopping a running play.

I have nothing against Campo, but you are just making stuff up.

SurvivorOf1and10fkaLEA;563380 said:

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A good run defender? Played well? He accumulated 0 stats in the game. He has less tackles than Marv Jones.

What are you basing this on? Point me to one play in the game where he had an impact in stopping a running play.

I have nothing against Campo, but you are just making stuff up.

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Sorry, but while he may not have made tackles, that doesn't mean he didn't have an impact. A large part of the position is keeping your contain and not getting blown up at the point of attack - if they clear you out, it opens a huge hole. Sometimes, even if you are blocked, if you hold your ground or even push back the blocker, it can blow up the play even though you don't get credit. (I'm not saying that happened here, I didn't look closely enough - just pointing out that his position isn't necessarily "making stuff up")

grandmastapoop;563382 said:

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Sorry, but while he may not have made tackles, that doesn't mean he didn't have an impact. A large part of the position is keeping your contain and not getting blown up at the point of attack - if they clear you out, it opens a huge hole. Sometimes, even if you are blocked, if you hold your ground or even push back the blocker, it can blow up the play even though you don't get credit.

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Ok, did you see anything like that? I didn't but I was watching PRD's feed, so details like that would be tough to spot.

Sorry, went to edit before you replied, then got pulled away.

He knows his assignments. That's why he's starting. Not because of his superior size or athleticism. He just knows his assignments. How long he holds onto his job is not really dependent on him...it's dependent on how quickly Whitesides/McCain can learn all their assignments.

SadbutTrue999;563387 said:

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Ok, did you see anything like that? I didn't but I was watching PRD's feed, so details like that would be tough to spot.

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I obviously missed these details, hence my original question. I guess as fans we need more on this guy, though the coaches didnt. They saw enough in practice and so if we hold Colorado to under 100 yards rushing, we will really have to take a close look at Campo and how significant his contribution is assuming he doesnt make the stat ledger again.

It could be that our walk-on is better than our 4* recruits. I think its a nice problem to have.

This makes it sound like he is simply "good enough" to play at LB for Cal rather than the better overall backer for that spot. You have to believe that there is not a better player at the time than him at that spot. More potential is one thing, but football IQ is part of those skills. If at this point Campo absorbes the paybook faster, he obviously has an advantage over the other more physical prototypes. After a few games as a starter, he could very well entrench himself at that spot.

SurvivorOf1and10fkaLEA;563371 said:

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If anybody is "flat wrong," you are "flat wrong." Look at the roster. The difference in weight between Campo and Whiteside and McCain isn't 20 pounds. Whiteside is 232 lbs and McCain is 233 lbs. In 2007, two of our starting linebackers Follett and Felder played at 232 and 231, respectively.

I've read virtually every coach comment that has been made and not once have I heard anyone say that McCain or Whiteside are too light to play the run. I've heard Campo referred to as "assignment sound" and that the younger guys need to become more "consistent." Not once have I heard anyone say that McCain and Whiteside are 20 pounds too light to play against the run. Where did you ever hear or see that? It is your "flat wrong" personal opinion or baseless inference.

McCain and Whiteside were both consensus 4-star recruits with offers all over the country. They impressed people during spring and fall camps. There is a reason why people were shocked to hear that Campo would be the starter. And, although he started against Fresno, Campo recorded less tackles than Marv Jones. McCain and Whiteside combined for 4 tackles, 1 sack, and 1 FF. Scarlett and Davis even account for 2 tackles and a sack. Campo accumulated zero stats.

So, how am I "flat wrong" for being of the opinion that we have better OLBs than Campo?

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And Desean was six feet tall...

He starts because he plays the run well, he holds the point well, that's not exactly a glory role, not exactly a stats generating postion. "Hey Dan, go out there and take on a guard for us, then come back off again will you so the other guys can chase the QB, that a boy." It's a tough job, a thankless job and a job that very few appreciate or even notice.

Hey, those other guys are studs, I have no doubt about that, but they are not complete OLB's yet, they're freshmen and they're still physically pretty lean and not quite ready to be every down guys. Camporeale and Davis are better in one particular aspect of the job; I think the coaches have made that pretty clear. You disagree, fine.

LafayetteBear;563316 said:

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Ironic that people are referring to him as "Campo" considering that he went to Acalanes H.S. and Campolindo H.S. (usually called "Campo" for short) is Acalanes' biggest rival.

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Not so sure whether Acalanes even has a "true" rival. Campo and Miramonte are true rivals; and both Campo and Miramonte sort of look at Acalanes as that "other" school in Lafayette, but not really as a rival.

Dan played well. I watched the tape looking for Dan because I am a friend of the family. The assignment against Fresno was containment. He got outside took on the block and turn the running play inside where the middle linebackers cleaned up. Not glamorous, but he played well. I expect to see more of Dan this coming Saturday.

An OLB's role isn't to hold point. That's the job of the DL. Sams and Wills are supposed to contain the edge, shed blocks, and make plays on the ball carrier.

huh? As an Acalanes alumni, Campo is most certainly Acalanes rival. Just do a google search <Acalanes rival> and google never fibs.

From a visual, Whiteside, McCain & even Wilkerson look like they can bulk up a bit and get stronger. Campo looks well built and from what I saw held his own very well. That said, it's impressive these young guys are playing so early and they have some great years ahead of them.

Haas8388;563406 said:

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And Desean was six feet tall...

"Hey Dan, go out there and take on a guard for us, then come back off again will you so the other guys can chase the QB, that a boy." It's a tough job, a thankless job and a job that very few appreciate or even notice.

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We thank you, as all Cal fans should.

jankoski;563532 said:

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huh? As an Acalanes alumni, Campo is most certainly Acalanes rival. Just do a google search <Acalanes rival> and google never fibs.

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I guess I was trying to find a nice way to say that acalanes sports teams are so bad that neither miramonte or campo cares about acalanes. This is coming from a miramonte grad.

SCREW YOU MIRAMONTE! You ended DeAnza's shot at the playoffs in 95! Grudges die hard.

LafayetteBear;563682 said:

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Ducky: I don't know when you graduated, but my twins boys (Class of 2014)have played football, basketball and lacrosse for Acalanes, and we OWN Miramonte in all three sports. The current Miramonte varsity has a stud QB (Anderson), and will likely take down the current Acalanes varsity, but wait another year. We will pwn Miramonte. Campo is the more difficult rival, in all honesty.

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HAHA, times must have changed then. but then, when I went to school we had drew bennett and kenny dorsey....and you guys had adam sugarman (who I think eventually walked on at Cal). so it wasn't quite a fair fight. football games were pretty ugly. my senior year, we didn't lose a single sport to acalanes. in the sport that I played, we literally sent our JV team to acalanes because it wasn't worth our time. i remember that during my days the SF chronicle used to do a poll and miramonte and campo had the two top rated athletic programs for public schools in northern california. i've heard that miramonte hasn't been the same recently (both academically and athletically) but if we're losing to Acalanes, then things are really going down hill. I'm sure we still own acalanes in the country club sports though (golf, tennis, swimming). lol.

and oh yeah, when I was at Miramonte, we had this guy too.

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46834

and he was hardly the best athlete on campus. so yeah, we pretty much dominated everyone. what the hell happened?

ducky23;563432 said:

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Not so sure whether Acalanes even has a "true" rival. Campo and Miramonte are true rivals; and both Campo and Miramonte sort of look at Acalanes as that "other" school in Lafayette, but not really as a rival.

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Actually, the rivalry thing is strange in part because of the way the intermediate schools break up. Stanley, in Lafayette sends plenty of kids to Campo, with the majority going to Acalanes. So, there is a strong rivalry, at least between those families and kids. That said, the Campo-Miramonte rivalry has deeper roots. Acalanes' original rival, Del Valle, was the first Prop. 13 closure in 1979.