The Pac-10 started in the middle of my Cal years, but I know many of us remember when it was 8...
So, if the expansion does happen, do they throw the Arizona schools in with Colorado, Utah, and the Texas/Oklahoma 4, and we have "West vs. East" divisions, and the original 8 are together????

Doubt it.

I see 4 4 team pod system with the winner of each playing in a pac 16 playoff

So we stay in the toughest division...from the frying pan into the fire. On the plus side, the intra-divisional playoff system sounds pretty exciting and is a good precursor to a new college football playoff system which will coalesce once the other superconferences take shape.

Pac 16 NorthWest

Udub
Wazzu
Oregon
OSU

Pac 16 California

CAL
USC
Furd
UCLA

Pac 16 Mountain

Utah
Colorado
ASU
UoA

Pac 16 East

OU
OSU
UT
TT

Playoff of the winner of each division with a PAC 16 champion. Winner of the PAC 16 champion plays in a 4 team playoff with the winner of the other 4 super conference winner to determine national championship

Guessing the winner of the pac 16 would play winner of the big 10 in the first round of the national playoffs in the Rosebowl

Bear_Territory;572780 said:

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Pac 16 NorthWest

Udub
Wazzu
Oregon
OSU

Pac 16 California

CAL
USC
Furd
UCLA

Pac 16 Mountain

Utah
Colorado
ASU
UoA

Pac 16 East

OU
OSU
UT
TT

Play-off of the winner of each division with a PAC 16 champion. Winner of the PAC 16 champion plays in a 4 team playoff with the winner of the other 4 super conference winner to determine national championship

Guessing the winner of the pac 16 would play winner of the big 10 in the first round of the national playoffs in the Rosebowl

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I'd prefer this, if it got us to a true National Championship game. 4 Super conference (PAC-16, SEC, ACC, Big-16).
1. Rose Bowl = Pac-16 vs. Big-16.
2. Orange Bowl = SEC vs. ACC
3. Rotate National Championship with Fiesta & Sugar Bowl.

Still flawed because doesn't take into account, WAC, MOUNTAIN WEST, CONF USA, and whatever conference the Rest of the BIG East/Big 12. Technically if that leaves 4 conferences then it gives you 8 Conf. winners for a national championship. But, think 8 teams might be too much if you have 2 conference play-off games.

It wouldn't make sense to put the four teams in the two largest markets in the same division.

gobears88;572808 said:

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It wouldn't make sense to put the four teams in the two largest markets in the same division.

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I agree only because in college football money is king, but to be honest in a 4 super conference set up some divisions are going to get screwed

gobears88;572808 said:

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It wouldn't make sense to put the four teams in the two largest markets in the same division.

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Yes they will because the 4 Cali schools aren't going to accept not playing each other every year.

Yep. The 6 other P10 schools are going to have fewer trips to CA, but they will also get more access to Texas.

Agree that the California schools will continue to play together.

Also, the Pod system is not allowable by the NCAA. So that is a no-go unless they change their regulations, which not only impact the Division 1 teams but all other divisions. You need at least 6 teams in a division to hold a conference championship game with a round robin winner in from that division.

It is either the zipper, which stinks for the old Pac 8 foes, or the east / west, which is better for the old Pac 8 foes. If it is the zipper, there is no way the Bears play the other CA schools each year, as that would preclude any other teams except the Cali teams from playing cross division in CA. So it has to be the East West.

With 16 schools, not every team can play in LA every year. But you can have each East division team play a CA school each year, and two of three years in CA. One in so Cal and one in No cal.

For Texas - they can not possibly care about who and where they play after playing in that garbage league for so long - they still have Tech and Oklahoma, which, along with A&M and Nebraska were the real issues they had to deal with each year. Utah, Arizona and Arizona State are probably better than Baylor, Kansas and Kansas State. Colorado they already know.

I think the east and west divisions would be pretty evenly matched. The California schools all have the potential to be big winners, as well as Oregon and Washington. So there are 6 teams in the west with big potential, just as there are 5 or 6 teams that should consistently be big players in the east.

Another big obstacle against this is gone soon - Stoops won't have to worry about playing his brother anymore since he will be gone by the end of the year.

Cal88;572877 said:

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Yep. The 6 other P10 schools are going to have fewer trips to CA, but they will also get more access to Texas.

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They'll have enough trips to CA. For example, in a pod system, UDub's annual football schedule would be

Wazzu, Ore, OSU
One NorCal team
One SoCal team
One Arizona team
One of UU or CU
One Oklahoma team
One Texas team

So they'd get a game in NorCal, one in SoCal, and one in Texas every other year, as would every other NW team. That's more SoCal games then they get in the Pac-12.