Money Vs. Rose Bowl?

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Jeff82
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I'll start out with this comment by Lafayette Bear, from another thread:

Cal, and every other school, desperately needs the additional revenue that these larger conferences, conference championship games, occasional Thursday and Friday night games, and other newfangled features of CFB bring with them. Without this new revenue, we are cutting a whole lot of non-revenue producing sports.

As long as we can continue to play 'Furd, SC and UCLA each year, I can live with whatever new arrangement Larry Scott comes up with. (I would also hope, and expect, that future participation in a Rose Bowl is at least a theoretical possibility under the new arrangement.)


Essentially, the anti-expansion arguments that I've heard basically boil down to the following: With expansion, we either have to give up the LA rivalries, or accept a tougher schedule than everyone else, which makes the Rose Bowl even more of a pipe dream than it was before.

I think there's some truth to that. However, without the additional revenue expansion is expected to provide, I don't expect Cal to be competitive in football anyway, unless we dump a bunch of non-revenue sports and funnel the money back to the gridiron. I think one of the terms of conference expansion should be to boost the minimum number of sports conference schools have to provide, both men's and women's, so that new revenue doesn't go solely to the football arms race, and our attempt to meet the spirit of Title IX doesn't create a competitive football disadvantage.

Bottom line, the genie is never going back in the bottle. Alumni who miss the nostalgia of hearing the band during time outs, and having the Old Pac 8 battle for the right to go to Pasadena, sorry, that ship has sailed.
BeachyBear
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Let's face it, with the budget cuts we're experiencing, we can't turn out nose up at money. It sucks, and it would be great if we didn't have to do this, but until some benefactor comes along and makes up all the shortfall in our athletic budget and then some, how can we say no?
Jeff82
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BeachyBear;574268 said:

Let's face it, with the budget cuts we're experiencing, we can't turn out nose up at money. It sucks, and it would be great if we didn't have to do this, but until some benefactor comes along and makes up all the shortfall in our athletic budget and then some, how can we say no?


The issue of non-revenue sports is still an issue. By not cutting the five sports, Cal maintained its status as having the second-largest athletic program in Division 1, after Ohio State. That means we offer more sports than any of the public schools in the Pac 12, or the Pac 16. Let's face it, every non-donation dollar that goes to a non-revenue sport from the AD is a dollar that probably otherwise would support football. That's just the way it is. And that's true even of donations. If Cal had no golf teams, I would probably give the money I give to them to football and basketball. One has to ask oneself about the relative value college athletics gives to the participants, versus the value to alumni who mostly only follow football and hoop.
RealDrew2
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I'd be happy to give up golf. It makes no sense that Cal has so many non-revenue sports. No wonder our AD budget is a mess.
Jeff82
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RealDrew2;574315 said:

I'd be happy to give up golf. It makes no sense that Cal has so many non-revenue sports. No wonder our AD budget is a mess.


Obviously, it's a big deal to the athletes and to their families, if they are getting a scholarship, and to the people that follow those sports. First step is probably to force the men's non-revenue sports to be totally self supporting through donations. This realistically can't be forced on the women, because of Title IX.
CaliforniaGoldenBear
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Jeff82;574266 said:

Alumni who miss the nostalgia of hearing the band during time outs,...sorry, that ship has sailed.


What? Why can't the noise spewing crap loudspeakers be turned off during the game?
oskidunker
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Was I just not paying attention?Maybe it doesn't get up to the View Section.
Jeff82
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CaliforniaGoldenBear;574516 said:

What? Why can't the noise spewing crap loudspeakers be turned off during the game?


I'm still hoping one day a large benefactor will specifically offer to write Sandy a check that equals or exceeds the annual value of all the in-game football promotions, with the proviso that those promotions be eliminated in favor of having the band play during timeouts.
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