<blockquote><div class="name-said">SouthBayPhenom;643600 said:</div><hr>Gundy lobbied for a spot in BCS game yesterday. Add him to the list of coaches/programs we should hate until we go to our graves. <br /><br />Gundy<br />Tubberville (Auburn)<br />Saban (from 2 weeks ago)<br />Bellotti (plus Oregon AD at the time)<br />Shaw<br />Brown<br /><br />Those are just off the top of my head. These coaches an their programs should be vilified into eternity.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Sarcasm, trying to make some moronic point about Kneepads Brown?<br /><br />Edit:<br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">SouthBayPhenom;643608 said:</div><hr>I actually agree - coaches should do their job, and if that includes making a public case for their team, I'm fine with it.<br /><br />I'm just pointing out the inconsistency of so many here who hate on Mack Brown for doing just that in 2004, yet don't seem bothered by anybody else doing it (or, in fact, actually defending it)<br /><br />if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander (or whatever that phrase is)<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Ayup, guess so. Inconsistency? We hate on Mack Brown for fucking over our team. I mean, this is so obvious as to barely need to be stated. At least, I would've thought so...

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SouthBayPhenom;643730 said:</div><hr>1. Do you know that this happened (called all the coaches "like a little bitch"<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />">? And, even if he did, not sure if that's meaningfully different from public lobbying, or Oregon's trip down to BCS HQ to lobby for their inclusion in the Fiesta.<br /><br />2. What about the coaches polls that had Texas at #8 or 9? Weren't those just as bad?<br /><br />The only thing we know for sure that happened is Brown went on TV after the A&M game and lobbied his team's case.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />There is lobbying for your team in a public manner, then going behind the back and actively cheating in the system to have your friends and family vote Cal out of the Top 25 poll.<br /><br />If you don't understand this difference, and it seems you do not, you need to take a course on ethics.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SouthBayPhenom;643744 said:</div><hr>It's the fact that we got jumped that is the key difference - nothing more. If Tedford had done what Brown had done, people here would have gone to the same lengths to defend it.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Tedford would have called up Mike Leach, Urban Meyer, Rich Rodriguez, Lane Kiffin, etc., asked them to purposely vote against their conscience and drop Texas out of their top 25 polls?<br /><br />Bullshit. You are either incredibly ignorant or you are dumb as a rock. Either doesn't speak well to you.