<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;671377 said:</div><hr>Of course star ratings matter. But forgive me for thinking if Tedford couldn't do it with a superbowl mvp or the most talented team in cal history that he wont do it now either. Before the bcs the 04 season you needed to win the conference to go to the rose and since the bcs not a single Pac 10 team has gone to the rose without winning the conference. Ill be happy if he can get it back to 9 or 10 wins, but im not convinced he can do it. He wasted way too much talent from 07-09 for me to have faith<br />in. Hope im wrong.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Nevertheless,<br /><br />EVEN YOU were not so ridiculously pessimistic yesterday. I know that you can see that facilities and this and potential future recruiting can only be a good thing for Cal.<br /><br />I am also sure that you realize that Cal is now better off with or without Tedford than we were before the HPC and this recruiting class started to come together. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I dislike Tedford, but I can see that things are getting better for the program. If we chase Tedford off, or he stays the same ol' Tedford, the program is better off. Now (with our facilities alone) we have a MUCH better chance at winning on the field, OR getting a new coach.<br /><br /><br />Simply, it takes a real sad person to be so hung up that they cannot be happy to have this class, or these facilities (not that that is what DO is saying, but it is what SF is saying).

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Phantomfan;671357 said:</div><hr>Ok, so name the steps to get there...<br /><br /><br />For me it goes like this (in order for MHO):<br />1. Facilities (for recruiting, training, etc).<br />2. Deep recruiting (to overcome the natural drop off of prospects)<br />3. Better coaching.<br /><br /><br />We have two of the three steps this year ALONE.<br /><br />That is HUGE. <br /><br /><br /><br />You are a trollolol. Only an idiot would think "Stadium is opening, HPC is moved into, and GREAT recruiting class... things suck." You seem to be that idiot.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Sounds OK, but I would reverse the order. Coaching is the key to everything. Ask Stanford. Tedford teams dominated Stanford for years, but then Harbaugh arrived in town, and it all changed. We are lucky Harbaugh moved on.<br /><br />I guess when you can't win an argument, you are reduced to calling the other guy derogatory names.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SFCityBear;671402 said:</div><hr>You continue to have trouble reading and comprehending what I wrote. <br /><br /><br />Where exactly did you find that I said I didn't like this recruiting class? I like it. I'm just not going to Harrah's and lay my life's savings on the Bears to do any better than they have in the past. I'll wait and see, which is what you might consider doing.<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">SFCityBear;670893 said:</div><hr>What caused it? I guess watching everyone on the Insider go overboard with praise for this recruiting class,<b> when all we have to go on is the rankings by the recruiting websites.</b><hr></blockquote><br />So, what exactly do you not like about this class. Take out the Star Rating, and tell me what you dont like.<br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">Quote:</div><hr>So you've seen videos? I saw a video of Isi sofele when they were recruiting him. Looked like one of the fastest, best broken field runners I'd ever seen. At the college level, he isn't. I saw videos of Zach Maynard. Great in the pocket, fine runner, fine passer. Don't you know the videos are professionally produced, and edited to make the players look good? Ever see a video where the runner is stopped cold, where linemen miss blocks, or a quarterback over throws a receiver by 10 yards? Of course you didn't.<hr></blockquote><br />Entire games are not highlights. So I saw missed tackles, dropped balls, missed blocks, over throws, Int's etc.<br /><br />Have you not noticed how many channels are showing high school football? Of course you didn't, or you would not assume your warped view of recruiting is the only view. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />You are a troll. If you dont like being called out, get off the board. You're a joke. DO is negative, but he is not a douchebag like you. He is not happy with coaching, but he is also not ridiculously negative about non-coaching changes, or the coaching that brings in these recruits. <br /><br />DO is also not stupid enough to dismiss a great recruiting class because of a hangup about coaching.<br /><br />You CLAIM to have been a fan for 60 years, and you have a problem with TEDFORD? I call bull ****. You have not been a fan for more than a decade. You are a n00b in the wide world of Cal football. Tedford has come closer to a Rose Bowl than any coach in about 30 years, and he has had more winning season BY HIMSELF than you claim you were around to see in the 50 years before. <br /><br />Yet you dont see any reason to be optimistic? <br /><br />Not just that, but Tedford did it with facilities that are worse than most of the high schools the kids are coming from. Facilities that are KNOWN to be a HUGE part of being successful in the sport. Facilities that keep players on the field, cause them to be faster and stronger, better rested and maintain high performance through the season...<br /><br />Now we have those facilities.<br /><br />Yet you dont see any reason to be optimistic? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />You posted this because you are a fraud. You dont know Cal football from a hole in the ground. I am not a pumper, but I am not so wrapped up in anti-Tedford Bias to pull out this bullshit on a huge day for the program. <br /><br />HPC opens and resident "nega/wants-better-for-Cal" DO is happy. I bet you moped around pissy about how it is wasted construction because Cal wont go to a Rose Bowl. <br /><br /><br /><br />Get off the board loser. You give us "negabears" a bad name. We want what is best for the program. We are happy with big wins, big achievements and pissy and bitchy about big failures. <br /><br />You are bitchy about HUGE MONUMENTAL achievements. That is not Nega. That is a personal problem. You would be well served to keep this number close by: 1-800-273-8255

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SFCityBear;671416 said:</div><hr>Sounds OK, but I would reverse the order. Coaching is the key to everything. Ask Stanford. Tedford teams dominated Stanford for years, but then Harbaugh arrived in town, and it all changed. We are lucky Harbaugh moved on.<br /><br />I guess when you can't win an argument, you are reduced to calling the other guy derogatory names.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Sorry, I am 100% sure that Furds first win over Tedford came in a brand new stadium...<br /><br /><br />AND you admit that we have secured two of the three things we need and you are still trolling your negativity?<br /><br /><br /><br />Trollololololololololololololol

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Phantomfan;671431 said:</div><hr>So, what exactly do you not like about this class. Take out the Star Rating, and tell me what you dont like.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Entire games are not highlights. So I saw missed tackles, dropped balls, missed blocks, over throws, Int's etc.<br /><br />Have you not noticed how many channels are showing high school football? Of course you didn't, or you would not assume your warped view of recruiting is the only view. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />You are a troll. If you dont like being called out, get off the board. You're a joke. DO is negative, but he is not a douchebag like you. He is not happy with coaching, but he is also not ridiculously negative about non-coaching changes, or the coaching that brings in these recruits. <br /><br />DO is also not stupid enough to dismiss a great recruiting class because of a hangup about coaching.<br /><br />You CLAIM to have been a fan for 60 years, and you have a problem with TEDFORD? I call bull ****. You have not been a fan for more than a decade. You are a n00b in the wide world of Cal football. Tedford has come closer to a Rose Bowl than any coach in about 30 years, and he has had more winning season BY HIMSELF than you claim you were around to see in the 50 years before. <br /><br />Yet you dont see any reason to be optimistic? <br /><br />Not just that, but Tedford did it with facilities that are worse than most of the high schools the kids are coming from. Facilities that are KNOWN to be a HUGE part of being successful in the sport. Facilities that keep players on the field, cause them to be faster and stronger, better rested and maintain high performance through the season...<br /><br />Now we have those facilities.<br /><br />Yet you dont see any reason to be optimistic? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />You posted this because you are a fraud. You dont know Cal football from a hole in the ground. I am not a pumper, but I am not so wrapped up in anti-Tedford Bias to pull out this bullshit on a huge day for the program. <br /><br />HPC opens and resident "nega/wants-better-for-Cal" DO is happy. I bet you moped around pissy about how it is wasted construction because Cal wont go to a Rose Bowl. <br /><br /><br /><br />Get off the board loser. You give us "negabears" a bad name. We want what is best for the program. We are happy with big wins, big achievements and pissy and bitchy about big failures. <br /><br />You are bitchy about HUGE MONUMENTAL achievements. That is not Nega. That is a personal problem. You would be well served to keep this number close by: 1-800-273-8255<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Wow. Your posts are some piece of work. 10,000+, and that is the best you can do? You might have some good points in here, but I can't see them for all the nasty personal insults, name calling, and foul language that you use. <br /><br />Just for you, I went to my first Cal game in 1947. My father graduated Cal in 1935. I graduated Cal in '65. I probably have forgotten more about Cal football than you will ever know. I bleed blue and gold. <br /><br />You have trouble reading exactly what I've said, before you comment. Now you want me to leave, so you and your opinion alone can "occupy" this board. It appears you have trouble with the First Amendment (Freedom of speech)as well.<br /><br />For the last time, <b>I like the recruiting class,and never said I didn't.</b> But I have little faith that the current coaching staff can do enough with it, to get us to the Rose Bowl. I hope for the best. What is wrong with that? I guess you never had anyone disagree with you before, and you can't allow that. <br /><br />You are one thing for sure - a fan. The word "fan" is derived from the word "fanatic", and you are all of that. Since I am not <b>overly optimistic </b>about the prospects of Cal football in the immediate future, what would you do? Try and beat me to death, like those Dodger fans did to Giants fan Bryan Stowe?<br /><br />Can't you even see that you are taking yourself and life too seriously, young man? Lighten up. Let someone else have a different point of view once in a while.

We played better teams!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SFCityBear;671646 said:</div><hr>It appears you have trouble with the First Amendment (Freedom of speech)as well.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />:rollinglaugh:<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" /><br /><br /><br />Wow, you claim to be how old, and you still don't know what the first amendment is? Are you KIDDING? Sorry, but the first amendment does not apply here, and telling you that you are a jackass idiot and telling you to GTFO would certainly be covered if it were. <br /><br />The fact that when challenged you bring up a "right" out of context is very telling. Maybe you should read the amendment. It is the epitome of ignorance to claim rights that don't exist. It is the last resort for someone who has no passable retort. <br /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote><div class="name-said">SFCityBear;671646 said:</div><hr>Can't you even see that you are taking yourself and life too seriously, young man? Lighten up.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Says the guy who decided that a HUGE recruiting day was the best time to bash the program. :rollinglaugh:<br /><br />Bottom line: Only a sniveling little punk would take a day like Saturday and choose to post something bashing the team and QQing about the future. Only an idiot would think he had a receptive audience. <br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" />

<blockquote><div class="name-said">SFCityBear;671416 said:</div><hr><br />I guess when you can't win an argument, you are reduced to calling the other guy derogatory names.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />You must be new here. :p<br /><br />This is how PhantomFan in his base state:<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" /><br /><br />:rollinglaugh:

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<blockquote><div class="name-said">freshfunk;672038 said:</div><hr>You must be new here. :p<br /><br />This is how PhantomFan in his base state:<br /><br /><img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />" /><br /><br />:rollinglaugh:<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I guess I fell into a trap. Thanks for this post and the one following. The world needs a little more humor. <br /><br />:gobears:

I think the Cal coaching staff kicks ass and this is why:<br /><br />I am still butthurt from the 1990 Stanfurd raping we experienced. Tedford is 7-3 against those fascists, including a masterful victory on the road 2 years ago. We were very close to accomplishing the same feat this year. You guys are worried about winning the Pac 10 and the Rose Bowl and the NC but really what you guys forget is the pain of losing to Furd like we used to. That pain is gone. Tedford has cured it.<br /><br />If you miss that pain of losing to Furd, replace Tedford with Neuheisel, Stoops, or ________.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I'll be enjoying winning season after winning season, save last year.