Brother is returning to SC this semester and Arik is announcing on signing day. INTERESTING to say the least. Some speculation in social media land - After being pronounced deceased the tweeters find out that <br /><br />THE BEAR WILL NOT DIE<br /><br />#calgang<br />#wegotallthatweneed<br />#butarikwouldbesuchfacepalmtoTo$h

I don't understand, if his brother is returning to SC wouldn't AA likely also fallow him?

I also don't understand, but I want to believe. Pass the Kool-Aide please!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Bear_Territory;683723 said:</div><hr>I don't understand, if his brother is returning to SC wouldn't AA likely also fallow him?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Returning for spring semester. I think this means that the will not be early enrollies

Armond is going back to SC to finish up some courses and will then transfer to another school in the fall. He is not returning to play football.

I'm confused, would that mean armond could potentially transfer to Cal next year?

I believe Armond would have to sit out a year if he were transfer to a Pac12 school.

Eric Lorig anyone? Anyway, this is good for us, I guess.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">drunkoski;683727 said:</div><hr>same lady says his bro is simply delaying transfering a semester rather tahn staying at usc for the football season.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Seems like if I were going to transfer and then play out a contract (draft day) senior year I'd want to be in spring camp. But I'm sure he knows what he is doing.<br /><br />I love the guys we've already got committed and would love to add Arik to the list.<br /><br />Go Bears!

I think we still have a good shot at pulling AA if Tedford makes the right hire.

I may be wrong, but I though AA (the elder) can play at a P12 b/c he's graduating and going to a program not offered by his current school. That is regardless of whether he graduates now v. later. More time is better.

It's good for us in the sense that there was no way Arik was going to commit to Cal without knowing who his position coach was. So any announcement this week was not going to favor Cal. Even if we hired someone immediately, the new coach wouldn't be able to establish a strong rapport with Arik. Delaying his decision until signing day buys us time. Presumably the family still likes everything else they liked about the school prior to Tosh leaving. Tedford is strong with families. We still have a lot to offer. (It also suggests that neither ND nor Auburn blew the brothers away.) But Arik and the family have to feel comfortable with the new DLine coach. It would also definitely help if Shaq were securely back in the fold, as the two are from the same area and are friends.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">aweissburg;683749 said:</div><hr>I may be wrong, but I though AA (the elder) can play at a P12 b/c he's graduating and going to a program not offered by his current school. That is regardless of whether he graduates now v. later. More time is better.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Nope, Pac12 has a rule that you still have to sit out a year even in this situation.

maybe they are giving lupoi and udub some time to make a sales pitch?<br /><br />/ducks head to avoid projectiles

<blockquote><div class="name-said">high calibear;683761 said:</div><hr>maybe they are giving lupoi and udub some time to make a sales pitch?<br /><br />/ducks head to avoid projectiles<hr></blockquote><br /><br />That would be stunning and highly doubtful. If you want to play DL and showcase your talents you need to be on a defense which didn't give up 70+ points in its bowl game<br /><br />#washingtonDmorerebuildingthankabul

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CalRyno;683757 said:</div><hr>Nope, Pac12 has a rule that you still have to sit out a year even in this situation.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />There might be a way since he'd be a grad student. The Pac-12 rules on intra-conference transfers are interesting.<br /><br />However, I would think that USC would have to agree to it. That would be what might kill such a plan.

I'm pretty sure that someone posted in an earlier thread that even as a grad student, if you transfer within the Pac12 you would have to sit out a year. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that somebody posted the rule.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">CalRyno;683790 said:</div><hr>I'm pretty sure that someone posted in an earlier thread that even as a grad student, if you transfer within the Pac12 you would have to sit out a year. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that somebody posted the rule.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Another interesting/sad development is that Richard Solomon is ineligible for the rest of the season for grades. Could Monty tell AA that he may have an oppty. for some PT if he enrolls now? I know, it's a reach but heck, I would have never dreamed in a million years that Tosh and Kiesau would be at UW today.

Now we know why Solomon was in trouble with Monty. We need to get that young back on track. It would help if AA came in to play hoops this semester, but he would need to enroll immediately. Of course, next year AA would really help our BB team.:gobears:

Seriously, has there been a recruiting season as wild as this one - how many more turns to go??<br /><br />Is is not better for your sanity to just wait 'til NSD to fire up BearInsider...

It might be that they are forcing USC's hand. I am not sure Armond's scholarship opens up if he does not transfer. USC may release him to get an opening to offer someone. I thought about Armond doing this about a week ago but let it slide.

It's unlikely AA would ever help our BB team in any significant way. He's being recruited for football for a reason.

I thought the ability to transfer for SC students was still there since they are on probation?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">califasbear;683849 said:</div><hr>Brilliant if true.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Anyone know the rules? that would be FANTASTIC!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">easdog1;683855 said:</div><hr>I thought the ability to transfer for SC students was still there since they are on probation?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I think the Pac-12 still applies the "sit one year" if the transfer is to another Pac-12 school. I believe that is why all the guys that transferred last year went to other conferences.<br /><br />I still don't understand how the Pac-12 can apply the sit one year rule to grad students. If the student earns their degree before their eligibility is up, how do you hold them?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">mdcspe69;683846 said:</div><hr>It might be that they are forcing USC's hand. I am not sure Armond's scholarship opens up if he does not transfer. USC may release him to get an opening to offer someone. I thought about Armond doing this about a week ago but let it slide.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Somebody needs to find out if this is possible!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">mdcspe69;683846 said:</div><hr>It might be that they are forcing USC's hand. I am not sure Armond's scholarship opens up if he does not transfer. USC may release him to get an opening to offer someone. I thought about Armond doing this about a week ago but let it slide.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />so true, USC needs that scholarship more than Armond does (assuming he can graduate).

<blockquote><div class="name-said">running bear;683880 said:</div><hr>so true, USC needs that scholarship more than Armond does (assuming he can graduate).<hr></blockquote><br /><br />That would be a SWEET move and get Armond AND Arik into Cal.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">mdcspe69;683846 said:</div><hr>It might be that they are forcing USC's hand. I am not sure Armond's scholarship opens up if he does not transfer. USC may release him to get an opening to offer someone. I thought about Armond doing this about a week ago but let it slide.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Pure Genius!

So, if this scenario were to play-out, Arik would commit to Cal within the next two weeks, and his older bro sometime thereafter, to play at Cal in 2013, Arik's sophomore year?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Cal89;683908 said:</div><hr>So, if this scenario were be play-out, Arik would commit to Cal within the next two weeks, and his older bro sometime thereafter, to play at Cal in 2013, Arik's sophomore year?<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />That was my impression....assuming Armond, the elder, is granted a 6th year of eligibility to play in 2013...which should be a mere formality because he's still not cleared medically from 2011. <br /><br />Just keep your paperwork and go back-to-back on the Medical Redshirts - 2011, 2012.

Don't be so sure SC doesn't quietly let Armstead leave w/o penalty and use his scholie for someone else after all the recruting hub-bub has died down.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">the_purple_drank;683911 said:</div><hr>... we're getting WAYYYYYYY ahead of ourselves.<hr></blockquote><br />Never stopped us before!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BeachyBear;683847 said:</div><hr>It's unlikely AA would ever help our BB team in any significant way. He's being recruited for football for a reason.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />??<br /><br />I believe Montgomery has been recruiting AA since he was a sophmore. I doubt he was doing that just as a favor to JT.<br /><br />Each school that has been mentioned as a serious contender for him has agreed he can play Basketball as well - and considering the smaller roster size for BBall - I can't imagine a BBall coach just saying, "yeah, he could take up a spot on my squad"

I think this pushing back of his commitment date actually helps schools on quarter systems more like say Oregon or UW. If his goal was to attend spring practice, but he waits till signing day to commit then his best option and only option (I think) is a quarter system.