Do we have a snowball's chance?

zero

I talked to Moody's, S&P and Fitch and their cumulative chance of signing rating is AA-, which translates to 67.3%.

he goes to udub.......... We just need to get over it and move forward with the recruits that actually commit to Cal. We will have a good class and survive Lopoi's and Keasaw's (sp?) departure and slime-ball tactics.

50% he chooses us or Washington

If he does I hope our BBigelow gets healthy playing time nxt yr and we see which player is the game changer in his respective position. My point is, seriously, Shaq is a grt grt player but I'd like to see more big threats on offense than in our secondary next year, which will be fine. Lots of xciting things to look forward to and unfold next year regardless of what happens between now and Wed.

100% chance we don't know what the chances are.

No idea what Shaq is going through, but I just can't see how Lupoi's move would flip him away from a school he and his fam have cared about for so long. Unless he really is buying into Lupoi's words hook, line, and sinker.<br /><br />The terrorists can't win!

I would say the chances of getting Shaq is about 5%...<br /><br /><br />Clearly the things that connected him and his brother to Cal are now at UW...

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BerlinerBaer;695021 said:</div><hr><br /><br />The terrorists can't win!<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Agree 100%. If Shaq goes to UW best wish to him except when he plays Cal. But I can't believe someone would follow a traitor like Tosh. If he doesn't go to Cal I wish he follow Armstead to Oregon so UW gets a taste of their own med.

I say watch out for Avery Sebastian and D Drew.Dont forget the great players that were redshirted last year both on offense and defense. So if shaq goes to Uw I hope he's got some support,but it didn't look like it against Baylor.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">BerlinerBaer;695021 said:</div><hr>No idea what Shaq is going through, but I just can't see how Lupoi's move would flip him away from a school he and his fam have cared about for so long. Unless he really is buying into Lupoi's words hook, line, and sinker.<br /><br />The terrorists can't win!<hr></blockquote><br /><br />LOL... the idea that they were attached to a school and not people is ridiculous.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">PoetBear;694946 said:</div><hr>Do we have a snowball's chance?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I think it is now quite likely we will not get Shaq, Bryce Treggs or Jordan Payton. Payton probably the most likely to stick with Cal. <br /><br />I think Shaq and Treggs are gone.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Boot;695028 said:</div><hr>I say watch out for Avery Sebastian and D Drew.Dont forget the great players that were redshirted last year both on offense and defense. So if shaq goes to Uw I hope he's got some support,but it didn't look like it against Baylor.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Could you imagine being a 5 star safety and being thrown onto that system?<br /><br />There are not enough dyke sticking fingers in Oakland to plug the leaks in the udub defense.<br /><br />Shaq would be running around all over the place with pales of water just to keep dry.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Phantomfan;695029 said:</div><hr>LOL... the idea that they were attached to a school and not people is ridiculous.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Not sure I agree, but I'm wondering if all the post-lupoi talk on here about how "recruits follow schools, not people" was just a bunch of Kool-Aid sunshine pumping. <img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="<img src="" />" />" />" />"><br /><br />Just like how a bunch of posters kept going on about how Cal offers a superior education. Look, that's definitely true and one of the things that make us proud of this school every day, but if you think it's the trump card in college FB recruiting, you need to wake up and realize it's not 1964 anymore.

It's increasingly obvious to me that Luopi is thoroughly savaging Tedford and the Cal program in his discussions with recruits, as the rumors suggest. He could have taken a higher road and told recruits that he's on a new chapter in his life and doesn't want to get dragged into things that are now history, but he seems he decided to "go negative". If that's indeed the case, I seriously hope that someone kicks him in the nuts.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">510Bear;695034 said:</div><hr>... you need to wake up and realize it's not 1964 anymore.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />A date has been attached to you. Ha ha.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">LocoOso;695030 said:</div><hr>I think it is now quite likely we will not get Shaq, Bryce Treggs or Jordan Payton. Payton probably the most likely to stick with Cal. <br /><br />I think Shaq and Treggs are gone.<hr></blockquote><br />What in the world is making you keep say that Payton is more likely than Treggs to stick with Cal? Please show me something that backs this.

if he had nuts he wouldnt have left in the middle of the night. Get him a gift certificate for a new dress at Lane Bryant, big and tall girls..

<blockquote><div class="name-said">LocoOso;695030 said:</div><hr>I think it is now quite likely we will not get Shaq, Bryce Treggs or Jordan Payton. Payton probably the most likely to stick with Cal. <br /><br />I think Shaq and Treggs are gone.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Where are you coming with this? Treggs is solid #Calgang . If you have read any of his tweets lately he is loving Berkeley and already viewing it as his new home.

I really hope we can still get Shaq. I can't believe that we didn't get Arik.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">soefeil;695081 said:</div><hr>Where are you coming with this? Treggs is solid #Calgang . If you have read any of his tweets lately he is loving Berkeley and already viewing it as his new home.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Someone I spoke to who is close to the Bosco program says that Treggs is not even close to 100% Cal at all. He really likes the coaches at another program and is now torn on where to go. Armstead and Shaq not being at Cal will also be a big factor. <br /><br />I'll leave it at that. Hope he sticks with Cal.

Shaq-35%<br />Treggs-85%

Just in case, what's the return policy on the #calgang t-shirts?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">cbadbear;695088 said:</div><hr>Just in case, what's the return policy on the #calgang t-shirts?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Dude - Don't be such neg...You need to support current #calgang and stay behind. In fact, I am thinking of buying more.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">LocoOso;695030 said:</div><hr>I think it is now quite likely we will not get Shaq, Bryce Treggs or Jordan Payton. Payton probably the most likely to stick with Cal. <br /><br />I think Shaq and Treggs are gone.<hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Yeah? Who did you supposedly speak to about this? You keep saying Treggs is gone when there is no shred of evidence otherwise to support it. Sounds like trollspeak to me.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">mustang;695091 said:</div><hr>Dude - Don't be such neg...You need to support current #calgang and stay behind. In fact, I am thinking of buying more.<hr></blockquote><br />+1<br />I put mine on right after AA announced for UO.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">LocoOso;695086 said:</div><hr>Someone I spoke to who is close to the Bosco program says that Treggs is not even close to 100% Cal at all. He really likes the coaches at another program and is now torn on where to go. Armstead and Shaq not being at Cal will also be a big factor. <br /><br />I'll leave it at that. Hope he sticks with Cal.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Why the Inspector Clouseau routine? Treggs interest in UCLA is not a secret.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">slobear;695092 said:</div><hr>Yeah? Who did you supposedly speak to about this? You keep saying Treggs is gone when there is no shred of evidence otherwise to support it. Sounds like trollspeak to me.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Sorry, I'll make sure to post sunshine and rainbows from now on. <br /><br />I'm hearing Arik Armstead to Cal! :cheer

Hey Loco: I'm just asking you to back it up bro. You don't seem to be able to do that.<br /><br />BTW, your punchline on that last post just proves you're a troll. Trying to sow discord and discouragement on this board is what you're all about. Funny how trolls can't help but reveal themselves.

Shaq not coming to Cal. He took off the Cal promos on Twitter a while ago. He speaks and shows his feelings. It was already 50/50 after Tosh left. Now that Arik is at Oregon...it's slim to none that Shaq goes to Cal. I guess Shaq was never a true Cal guy. You don't ditch a school based on one assistant coach. Most current Cal guys won't leave because Tosh left us. It's the school. I like the fact that a guy like Zach Kline was Cal all the way! I love Shaq as a player, but he doesn't bleed Cal. If he does...sure doesn't show it.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">mustang;695091 said:</div><hr>Dude - Don't be such neg...You need to support current #calgang and stay behind. In fact, I am thinking of buying more.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Obviously, we do not share the same sense of humor...

It would be funny to see Zach Kline turn out to be a stud. Then rip apart the Ducks defense! Shaq and Arik included :-P LOL.

It's tough to see 5 of your top 6 recruits end up somewhere else. I just keep crossing the fingers that Kline turns out to be good. One top QB will soften the blow on losing all the other recruits. Bryce Treggs still has his Cal promos on Twitter. He could be tricking us all. 2 days and we'll see.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">rcs15;695120 said:</div><hr>Lot of good the new facilities did. They don't mean anything now that the only person capable of selling them to the 5 star recruits bounced.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />with the facilitates upgrade you're trying to change the perception as well as performance, and neither of those aspects necessarily happen overnight. Have patience and enjoy the ride as my guess is that you're on the right path