If you are a Washington fan, I have a simple message for you.<br /><br />I might be furious at the way Lupoi betrayed Cal. I might be disappointed in Tedford. (But hey, I give a HUGE, full-throated shout-out of support for all Cal recruits who come here--may they all succeed hugely as Cal students and athletes.)<br /><br />But...to any of you Washington fans...<br /><br />There is no way--never, ever--that I can look at Washington, without being revolted. This is not college football, it's just money, betrayal and the triumph of unethical behavior.<br /><br />If Cal taught me one thing, ANYTHING, it was that there are things bigger than your college degree, or your money, or your salary. There is who you are as a person, your soul. Whether you are liberal, conservative, whatever, people at Cal know that there are themes in life bigger than just us.<br /><br />So--no way, ever, would I want to "win" by engaging in this level of betrayal and probably tortious or unethical behavior.<br /><br />And btw, Washington football fan--"congratulations"--Washington may now be hip-deep in claims and lawsuits, an ESPN "funfest" of scandal-reporting into future years, and a have a football team that will be rooted against in ways you haven't even realized yet.<br /><br />I will never say Cal is perfect, or that I don't have my doubts and disappointments, but hey--there is a certain threshold of decency for which yes, I am very, very proud of Cal.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">HowdyHowdy;696903 said:</div><hr><br />There is no way--never, ever--that I can look at Washington, without being revolted. This is not college football, it's just money, betrayal and the triumph of unethical behavior.<br /><br />If Cal taught me one thing, ANYTHING, it was that there are things bigger than your college degree, or your money, or your salary. There is who you are as a person, your soul. Whether you are liberal, conservative, whatever, people at Cal know that there are themes in life bigger than just us.<br /><br /><br />I will never say Cal is perfect, or that I don't have my doubts and disappointments, but hey--t<b>here is a certain threshold of decency for which yes, I am very, very proud of Cal</b>.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Too bad Cal didn't teach Tosh the same lessons you learned.<br /><br />Your beef should be with one of your own and not UW fans.

I used to say that I rooted for any team playing USC except for Notre Dame. Now I can say that I will root for any team playing USC except for Notre Dame and Washington and I will root for Notre Dame over Washington.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">mdcspe69;696964 said:</div><hr>I used to say that I rooted for any team playing USC except for Notre Dame. Now I can say that I will root for any team playing USC except for Notre Dame and Washington and I will root for Notre Dame over Washington.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Where is rival Stanford in all this? Surely Cal fans will still pull for UW over Stanford?

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Cardinal96;696983 said:</div><hr>Where is rival Stanford in all this? Surely Cal fans will still pull for UW over Stanford?<hr></blockquote><br />Quite a dilemma! Maybe I'll just root for a tsunami.

I guess i get why your mad but if someone did hired away one of my schools assistants it wouldn't really bother me because i realize thats the game thats played with recruiting.

Get over it.

Furd/USC over UW, easy. 3-10 season this year would make me a happy Bear in the crappy weather. I want nothing more for the rent a pups to suffer. Sark laying a big egg and getting walking papers from Tyee, he will find a job quickly, but To$h and his recent nonsense coming back to render him facing a career as a Garfield High line coach and duck boat tour driver on weekends. <br /></vitriol>

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Cardinal96;696983 said:</div><hr>Where is rival Stanford in all this? Surely Cal fans will still pull for UW over Stanford?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I think it would have to be a case-by-case basis, depending on north division standings.

This thread is think with self pity. <br /><br />UW fans; you are the same people you have been. Recruiting has always been dirty, every staff has dirty people, and you should be happy to have success. <br /><br />I love your band, your fans are mostly good, etc.<br /><br /><br />I'll save my hate for Tosh. Because of him, my hope is you lose every game and he is horribly injured on the sideline somehow.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">Cardinal96;696983 said:</div><hr>Where is rival Stanford in all this? Surely Cal fans will still pull for UW over Stanford?<hr></blockquote><br /><br />Not this year. In the future, we'll see.

F*ck To$h and any team he coaches. May blood run through their water coolers and a 1 million locusts swarm their fields. May the oceans flood their fields and the skies drench their fans.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">freshfunk;697064 said:</div><hr>F*ck To$h and any team he coaches. May blood run through their water coolers and a 1 million locusts swarm their fields. May the oceans flood their fields and the skies drench their fans.<hr></blockquote><br />I would prefer another 0-12 season!

<blockquote><div class="name-said">freshfunk;697064 said:</div><hr>F*ck To$h and any team he coaches. May blood run through their water coolers and a 1 million locusts swarm their fields. May the oceans flood their fields and <b>the skies drench their fans</b>.<hr></blockquote><br /><br />This much, at least, is pretty well guaranteed.

<blockquote><div class="name-said">NYCGOBEARS;697069 said:</div><hr>I would prefer another 0-12 season!<hr></blockquote><br /><br />I would prefer that UW goes 2-10. I want them to win a few meaningless non-conference games to help the pac-12 computer SOS, and then the leg-humpers can get swept in conference.