JB was a Chieftain said:

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okaydo said:

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"It's the most important signing in Dodgers history." @BenVerlander breaks down the impact that the Shohei Ohtani-Dodgers deal will have on this season and beyond. pic.twitter.com/TJlbCOKCil

— FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) December 19, 2023

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Ummmm Jackie Robinson

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Who!!? Oh, wait, didn't he used to play for that Big Ten school?

ducky23 said:

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oski003 said:

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It is only 2 million per year. Again, 4D chess.

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4D chess my A$$. This took absolutely zero skill or creativity from the dodgers. It just takes someone like ohtani to be willing to take such a stupid deal. Every team would defer that type of money if they could.

This is way way worse than KD coming to the warriors. At least in that situation, it only works cause the warriors drafted their big 3 (you wouldn't be able to buy 4 superstars under the nba salary cap).
And even then, the warriors had to surround that team with vet mins.

What the dodgers are doing is just ridiculous. Sure it'll work in the short term, but they're basically guaranteeing that there's going to be a new CBA that's going to destroy all of their current advantages.

If the dodgers were smart, they could've manipulated a weak "salary cap" forever. But now that they've destroyed it, a harder salary cap is all but guaranteed.

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They are required to put 46M in an escrow account. This is really a $48M annual deal, which is not outrageous at all. The deferral let's the agent claim it's 700M, let's Ohtani pay less taxes, etc. There won't be a hard cap. The current deal has explicit language to the effect that no restrictions of any kind are allowed on deferrals. The union will never agree to changing that.

Japanese star Yamamoto goes to Dodgers for 12 years, $325M

Shocking.

Baseball is becoming a total joke. Letting a team spend over a billion dollars on the two top free agent players with basically no consequences is just pathetic. The sport won't survive if they don't have a hard cap of some sort.

Dodgers haven't won a real World Series in 30+ years, so they're doing everything in their power to try and buy one. What a joke.

westcoast101 said:

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Dodgers haven't won a real World Series in 30+ years, so they're doing everything in their power to try and buy one. What a joke.

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They won in 2020. That is 3 years ago.

egbear82 said:

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Baseball is becoming a total joke. Letting a team spend over a billion dollars on the two top free agent players with basically no consequences is just pathetic. The sport won't survive if they don't have a hard cap of some sort.

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Much of this is deferred and isn't extraordinary given the contract lengths. They added about 70 million in payroll next year between these two players. Giants would have likely done something similar if these players had chosen to play for the Giants. They didn't.

Not my money, so I don't care and will be excited when I see Shohei and Yamamoto play. I'm kind of tired of all this hype during the off season. That's also why I don't follow recruiting for Cal too much either. It always comes down to whether the team gels and whether the coaches/manager can put it together.

Like with Wilcox, I don't really believe until the team does something different. For Wilcox it's winning more than 7 games. For the Dodgers, it is the recent early bow outs. I mean with all that star power they looked helpless against the D-Backs.

oski003 said:

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westcoast101 said:

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Dodgers haven't won a real World Series in 30+ years, so they're doing everything in their power to try and buy one. What a joke.

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They won in 2020. That is 3 years ago.

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Not a real world series. A covid-shortened joke of a season.

oski003 said:

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westcoast101 said:

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Dodgers haven't won a real World Series in 30+ years, so they're doing everything in their power to try and buy one. What a joke.

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They won in 2020. That is 3 years ago.

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This is a site about Cal Athletics so you should already know that COVID years don't count. Jim Knowlton said so himself.

bearsandgiants said:

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oski003 said:

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westcoast101 said:

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Dodgers haven't won a real World Series in 30+ years, so they're doing everything in their power to try and buy one. What a joke.

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They won in 2020. That is 3 years ago.

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Not a real world series. A covid-shortened joke of a season.

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I know you really want that World Series to not count because the giants suck and have sucked for years. They haven't won a World Series since their Balco infused cheating team a decade ago. They suck now. Their fans pretend they don't have a high payroll just so they can excuse how much they suck. Again, the giants suck. Giants fans are jealous losers.

oski003 said:

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They haven't won a World Series since their Balco infused cheating team a decade ago.

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What? Are you just throwing out anti-Giants Mad Libs?

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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They haven't won a World Series since their Balco infused cheating team a decade ago.

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What? Are you just throwing out anti-Giants Mad Libs?

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You didn't know Lincecum was juicing?

WalterSobchak said:

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LOL when it was the Yankees raiding the A's year after year I don't remember Giant fans thinking it was a crisis. You're not special.

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I didn't like the Yankees when they were buying up all the top free agents either.

sycasey said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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LOL when it was the Yankees raiding the A's year after year I don't remember Giant fans thinking it was a crisis. You're not special.

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I didn't like the Yankees when they were buying up all the top free agents either.

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What does that have to do with this notion that MLB neeeeeeds a FA cap to "save" the game? This has been happening for decades, just not to the Giants. Welcome to the club.

WalterSobchak said:

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sycasey said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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LOL when it was the Yankees raiding the A's year after year I don't remember Giant fans thinking it was a crisis. You're not special.

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I didn't like the Yankees when they were buying up all the top free agents either.

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What does that have to do with this notion that MLB neeeeeeds a FA cap to "save" the game? This has been happening for decades, just not to the Giants. Welcome to the club.

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They've probably needed one for a while, yeah.

sycasey said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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sycasey said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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LOL when it was the Yankees raiding the A's year after year I don't remember Giant fans thinking it was a crisis. You're not special.

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I didn't like the Yankees when they were buying up all the top free agents either.

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What does that have to do with this notion that MLB neeeeeeds a FA cap to "save" the game? This has been happening for decades, just not to the Giants. Welcome to the club.

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They've probably needed one for a while, yeah.

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LOL. Let me guess: Like 003 says you think the cap should be set right where mid market teams like the Giants can compete with big market teams like the Dodgers but both can still outbid small market teams like the A's.

WalterSobchak said:

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sycasey said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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sycasey said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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LOL when it was the Yankees raiding the A's year after year I don't remember Giant fans thinking it was a crisis. You're not special.

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I didn't like the Yankees when they were buying up all the top free agents either.

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What does that have to do with this notion that MLB neeeeeeds a FA cap to "save" the game? This has been happening for decades, just not to the Giants. Welcome to the club.

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They've probably needed one for a while, yeah.

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LOL. Let me guess: Like 003 says you think the cap should be set right where mid market teams like the Giants can compete with big market teams like the Dodgers but both can still outbid small market teams like the A's.

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No, I think the Giants have plenty of money and can compete at close to the higher levels. They have clearly been willing to spend in the last couple of offseasons; it's just the rest of the roster isn't good enough to attract most of their targets over the likes of the Dodgers.

I think the extreme differences in payrolls are bad for the competitiveness of the league, regardless of how my team does.

Giants trade dude making $17 million per year who hits .209 with 6 HRs and dude making $12 million per year with 5.16 ERA and 3 million dollars for 32 year old ex Cy Young award winner making $23 million per year with 3.71 ERA in 2021 before Tommy John surgery knocked him out until late 2024 season.

This is an exciting off-season for the team that pretends tvst don't spend!

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39248482/mariners-trade-robbie-ray-giants-mitch-haniger-anthony-desclafani

After making large cuts to its staff, the LA Times will not have a traveling beat writer with the Dodgers in Shohei Ohtani’s first year with the team.@AEricFisher's story ⬇️

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) January 25, 2024

Shohei Ohtani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto are ready for #SeoulSeries! 🇰🇷

(via shoheiohtani/IG) pic.twitter.com/QESxA7SoKm

— MLB (@MLB) March 14, 2024

okaydo said:

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After making large cuts to its staff, the LA Times will not have a traveling beat writer with the Dodgers in Shohei Ohtani’s first year with the team.@AEricFisher's story ⬇️

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) January 25, 2024

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Hope the dude's happy knowing he's personally responsible for putting half of the dodger staff out of work with his bloated salary. Also, he can't pitch. So he's basically like Kershaw, or that rapey guy.

Take it to the off topic board, hypocrites.

Uh oh dodgers fans

Giants dodged a bullet with Correa.

Did they dodge another one with Ohtani???

Would hate to see the dodgers get entangled in a gambling scandal. Would be so sad!!!!!

My interpreter makes most of my financial decisions

Shohei Ohtani has always bet on himself – and it’s about to reap huge rewards.https://t.co/dWeOtJbVjQ

— CNN (@CNN) July 11, 2023

The hot chicks don't pick you because you are an ugly loser. Nothing that happens with Ohtani changes that fact.

SF is a sh****le, and in 2024, the Giants suck at baseball. Accept reality.

SurvivorOf1and10fkaLEA said:

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The hot chicks don't pick you because you are an ugly loser. Nothing that happens with Ohtani changes that fact.

SF is a sh****le, and in 2024, the Giants suck at baseball. Accept reality.

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Uh huh….tell me more