Cal (Pac-12 No. 6) vs. Navy in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. ughhhhh..

Seriously this guy has fell off his rocker.
Here is where he gets REALLY crazy. Oregon State (Pac-12 No. 4) vs. NC State (ACC No. 4) in the Sun Bowl and UCLA (Pac-12 No. 3) vs. Kansas State (Big 12 No. 5) in the Holiday Bowl.


The only good projection..Washington (Pac-12 No. 7) vs. Air Force (MWC No. 4) in the New Mexico Bowl.

AZGoldenBear;841906614 said:

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Cal (Pac-12 No. 6) vs. Navy in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. ughhhhh..

Seriously this guy has fell off his rocker.
Here is where he gets REALLY crazy. Oregon State (Pac-12 No. 4) vs. NC State (ACC No. 4) in the Sun Bowl and UCLA (Pac-12 No. 3) vs. Kansas State (Big 12 No. 5) in the Holiday Bowl.


The only good projection..Washington (Pac-12 No. 7) vs. Air Force (MWC No. 4) in the New Mexico Bowl.

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Phil Steele is a tool.

He was pretty accurate last year

http://blog.philsteele.com/2011/08/12/2011-12-bowl-projections/

I hate to say it, but he has been accurate too many times before........

Nevertheless, I have faith!!!

Goooooooo BEARS!!!

Can anyone be blamed for taking a "prove it to me first" approach with the Bears? Outside of $c and MAYBE the ducks, everyone else has the potential to rise up and be the surprise team or fall flat on their faces.

89Bear;841906623 said:

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Can anyone be blamed for taking a "prove it to me first" approach with the Bears? Outside of $c and MAYBE the ducks, everyone else has the potential to rise up and be the surprise team or fall flat on their faces.

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Good point. Oregon St. 4th in the pac12? I just don't see that happening. You never know with mike riley, though.

NYCGOBEARS;841906615 said:

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Phil Steele is a tool.

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I haven't followed him lately and used to have a link about this, but during the last decade or maybe 7 years or so, Phil Steele has been the #1 predictor many years and #2 or #3 most of the others...I don't know how his record is now but he was heads and tails above everyone else for many many years...almost eerily so.

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The first edition was published in 1995.[5] In a comparison of the major preseason college football magazines, ESPN writer Pat Forde said:

All the mags have their merits . . . But Phil Steele owns the genre . . . The 46-year-old uses a cookie-cutter layout for every team, and his writing will never be nominated for a Pulitzer. But he does author every two-page team preview himself, and he crams stats, facts and figures into every nook and cranny.[1]

The magazine was similarly praised by the News & Observer and Rivals.com.[6][7] Chris Stassen, owner of football.stassen.com, has tracked the preseason magazines' accuracy since 1993 and rates Phil Steele's as the most accurate in its predictions.[8][9]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Steele

89Bear;841906623 said:

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Can anyone be blamed for taking a "prove it to me first" approach with the Bears? Outside of $c and MAYBE the ducks, everyone else has the potential to rise up and be the surprise team or fall flat on their faces.

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Yup we are the Clemson of the west coast except I believe Clemson has had more recent success.

Steele is a clown. He wasn't accurate last year. "my site because we update the projections as the season progresses and also as the teams accept bowl bids."

read the small print.

AZGoldenBear;841906637 said:

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Steele is a clown. He wasn't accurate last year. "my site because we update the projections as the season progresses and also as the teams accept bowl bids."

read the small print.

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+1

AZGoldenBear;841906614 said:

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Cal (Pac-12 No. 6) vs. Navy in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. ughhhhh..

Seriously this guy has fell off his rocker.
Here is where he gets REALLY crazy. Oregon State (Pac-12 No. 4) vs. NC State (ACC No. 4) in the Sun Bowl and UCLA (Pac-12 No. 3) vs. Kansas State (Big 12 No. 5) in the Holiday Bowl.


The only good projection..Washington (Pac-12 No. 7) vs. Air Force (MWC No. 4) in the New Mexico Bowl.

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Interesting considering he picks Cal to finish ahead of Oregon State in his pac-12 preview.

Phil Steele has not been accurate about Cal for a long time, usually over-rating us because he bases his power rankings largely on recruiting rankings which we have ranked well in recently. Last year he under-rated us. To say someone is accurate is meaningless unless we all agree on what accurate means first.

Also, he admitted that he has had a hard time accurately predicting OSU. So I would ignore the 4th place finish prediction for the Beavers as it is likely to be inaccurate by his own admission. The OSU prediction is almost entirely based on a pattern that coach Riley has with his QB's. They seem to do really well under Riley in their 2nd year as a starter. Mannion is in his 2nd year. IMHO, the story with OSU has always depended on injuries. They have very little depth usually. If they stay healthy, the could finish 4th. But I doubt that will happen.

The 3rd place finish for UCLA is based on what I said before, Phil's infatuation for talent as it appears on paper through recruiting rankings and # of returning starters. But UCLA has underperformed consistently because of injuries and poor discipline. Phil is banking on all of that changing now that Mora appears to be more of a disciplinarian. I think they could surprise some teams but I don't think they can finish 3rd with Prince/Brehaut/1st year starter at QB. They will probably finish 3rd in the south.

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Phil Steele has not been accurate about Cal for a long time, usually over-rating us because he bases his power rankings largely on recruiting rankings which we have ranked well in recently. Last year he under-rated us. To say someone is accurate is meaningless unless we all agree on what accurate means first.

Also, he admitted that he has had a hard time accurately predicting OSU. So I would ignore the 4th place finish prediction for the Beavers as it is likely to be inaccurate by his own admission. The OSU prediction is almost entirely based on a pattern that coach Riley has with his QB's. They seem to do really well under Riley in their 2nd year as a starter. Mannion is in his 2nd year. IMHO, the story with OSU has always depended on injuries. They have very little depth usually. If they stay healthy, the could finish 4th. But I doubt that will happen.

The 3rd place finish for UCLA is based on what I said before, Phil's infatuation for talent as it appears on paper through recruiting rankings and # of returning starters. But UCLA has underperformed consistently because of injuries and poor discipline. Phil is banking on all of that changing now that Mora appears to be more of a disciplinarian. I think they could surprise some teams but I don't think they can finish 3rd with Prince/Brehaut/1st year starter at QB. They will probably finish 3rd in the south.

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Fucla, in my opinion, has far more questions than the Bears. I don't think they have solved their offensive line issues, they are weak at receiver(and don't have anyone near the level of KA), they have serious QB questions(Kline better than Hundley and both have no experience, Maynard better than other guys)they have serious issues at linebacker and new coordinators and systems to get used to. That's for starters...

Let's face it, after the last few years, did you expect him to put us in the Rose Bowl? Is there really that much change from last year to this one, except we have a home stadium. Do any of you seriously think we have a team that will win more than 7 games at the most and could once again end up 6-6 without trying too hard, since you can pencil in USC, UO, and Ohio State as sure losses. Given a resurgent UCLA and UW, a new coach at WSU and certainly a tough Stanford team, do you really think we are going to end up at anything but a "toilet bowl?"

if you think we will win 9, please send me your money and i also have a bridge I can sell you.

:tedford to stink it up!

AZGoldenBear;841906614 said:

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Cal (Pac-12 No. 6) vs. Navy in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl.

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Oh boy! Can't wait for the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl!

BearsLair72;841906677 said:

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Let's face it, after the last few years, did you expect him to put us in the Rose Bowl?

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After 2004, I was confident we go to the Rose Bowl before the decade was out. After 2007, I thought we might go to the Rose Bowl by 2020. Today, I think there are some chances my children will see Cal in the Rose Bowl.

Probably accurate. I don't think Maynard's terrible but he's also not great, and we're not good enough elsewhere to do a whole ton better than middle of the road Pac12 w 7-8 wins. Feel bad for the kool aid drinkers.

heartofthebear;841906650 said:

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Phil Steele has not been accurate about Cal for a long time, usually over-rating us because he bases his power rankings largely on recruiting rankings which we have ranked well in recently. Last year he under-rated us. To say someone is accurate is meaningless unless we all agree on what accurate means first.

Also, he admitted that he has had a hard time accurately predicting OSU. So I would ignore the 4th place finish prediction for the Beavers as it is likely to be inaccurate by his own admission. The OSU prediction is almost entirely based on a pattern that coach Riley has with his QB's. They seem to do really well under Riley in their 2nd year as a starter. Mannion is in his 2nd year. IMHO, the story with OSU has always depended on injuries. They have very little depth usually. If they stay healthy, the could finish 4th. But I doubt that will happen.

The 3rd place finish for UCLA is based on what I said before, Phil's infatuation for talent as it appears on paper through recruiting rankings and # of returning starters. But UCLA has underperformed consistently because of injuries and poor discipline. Phil is banking on all of that changing now that Mora appears to be more of a disciplinarian. I think they could surprise some teams but I don't think they can finish 3rd with Prince/Brehaut/1st year starter at QB. They will probably finish 3rd in the south.

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How can you predict anything about our team esp. this season? We follow our program 24/7, post overly involved threads about recruits that commit or pass to go to UW, get in a bunch if the stadium cam is not working, remark about JT's posture during a Q&A video, and WE have NO IDEA what we're gonna get this season. All these preview mags are about as useful as Jim Cramer telling us what the next big stock is.

Bear_Territory;841906617 said:

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He was pretty accurate last year

http://blog.philsteele.com/2011/08/12/2011-12-bowl-projections/

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No. Those projections were updated as the season progressed. The date on the top left side is misleading. He originally had OK in the title, LSU in the sugar, etc.