Cal, Memorial Stadium, and "getting it right"

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BearBoarBlarney
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Like many of you, I just can't enough of all the construction updates, photos, and BearInsider videos of the progress at California Memorial Stadium.

But what has hit me most of all is that I think Cal really got it right this time. Memorial is a special place, and for many of us Cal alums, it's sacred ground. The stadium owes its very existence to the success of Andy Smith's Wonder Teams, and it's the place where immortality was bestowed on the participants in "The Play," where Joe Roth worked his magic on the field and in our hearts, and where Ferragamo found Sweeney in '72.

Cal has found a way to transform and modernize Memorial Stadium without changing the essence of the place and without messing up the beauty of the old bowl tucked into the canyon. The classic lines of John Galen Howard's masterpiece have been preserved, and we've add a whole bunch of bells and whistles that ol' John Galen himself might be impressed by!

Contrast what Cal has done with Memorial with what Stanford (read: Arrillaga) did with Stanford Stadium. I think we can all agree that old Stanford Stadium was not a pretty gal in the best of times, but as god awful as the sight lines were in that monstrosity, the 86,000 seat stadium at least had some character and decent history. When Stanford bulldozed the old gal to make way for Circus Minimus, they essentially lost whatever character the old place had. Oh, sure, the massive dirt mound that defined the former stadium's footprint still survives, as do the old stairwells running up the sides of the dirt mound, but for all intents and purposes, new Stanford Stadium has little connection to historic Stanford Stadium. New Stanford Stadium feels more like a gussied-up version of Boston College's Alumni Stadium, and while it's modern and has great sight lines, it also feels antiseptic and impersonal.

I think Cal has hit a home run with this renovation. They kept the stadium we all grew up with and know and love, but they updated it for this century. Cal and Cal athletics don't always get things right, but in this case, they aced it. Now if the braintrust would just put the Andy Latham Smith Bench back where it belongs....nah, not going there right now.
Don'tDance
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I have the same feeling. The same can be said about the SAHPC. Considering the necessary minimum cost for modernization and seismic retrofit, Cal made the right PROGRAM decision to go for top quality and history combined at the incremental cost on top of the minimum. The only credible alternative was to abandon the historic site which would have been a historic mistake.

After all the bad news about the NIMBYs, the tree sitters, the misunderstood costs and financing, and the doubts on the construction Cal will get a "win" out of the grand reopening of CMS and should leverage that news to finally present the SAHPC to the public in a big way.

Dare I say it, the reality of a football season in Strawberry Canyon could even fire up the type of corporate ticket buyer that follows good news the way we follow 5-star recruits and ESP tickets could start selling in the University Club.
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Not sure that 46 is old fart status, but...I agree that the renovation of Memorial has been done well, but I also think it reflects the bad things of the modern game. Instead of a simple bowl with everyone in the same situation, we have special sections and seat status, and clubs, etc. We have new video boards on the side of the field to blare out advertising. I don't blame Cal, but I don't like then new environment. Just like I don't like stupid videos and adverts during timeouts instead of the band. I hate not knowing when a game will start until television decides when it is convenient. I really hate pushing the Big Game in the middle of the season. I have no idea why Utah and Colorado need to join the league. They are doing their best to ruin a great game and great Saturday (Friday?, Thursday?) experience.

That being said, Cal made the right decision to stay in big time football and they are trying their best to balance the new crap with the old traditions. Not a fan of most of the necessary compromises, but can't wait for the season.
72CalBear
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BearyGordy;841919208 said:

Not sure that 46 is old fart status, but...I agree that the renovation of Memorial has been done well, but I also think it reflects the bad things of the modern game. Instead of a simple bowl with everyone in the same situation, we have special sections and seat status, and clubs, etc. We have new video boards on the side of the field to blare out advertising. I don't blame Cal, but I don't like then new environment. Just like I don't like stupid videos and adverts during timeouts instead of the band. I hate not knowing when a game will start until television decides when it is convenient. I really hate pushing the Big Game in the middle of the season. I have no idea why Utah and Colorado need to join the league. They are doing their best to ruin a great game and great Saturday (Friday?, Thursday?) experience.

That being said, Cal made the right decision to stay in big time football and they are trying their best to balance the new crap with the old traditions. Not a fan of most of the necessary compromises, but can't wait for the season.


BG - Old fart? Class of '46 or just 46 years old??
We all miss the "good ole days" at Memorial - I can remember beer and cigars there..but in terms of the commercialization of Cal football..I am afraid we are stuck with it..The money needs to "roll" in these days..Video boards, TV contracts, silly adverts, and moving the Big Game has sickened me..but..hey..Look at society and what is "wants" and Division I football to survive - Beer and cigars can kill you these days! :p As much as I admire what has been done with the renovations, I reserve judgement until gameday and the Bears take the field on September 1!!!
Cal_Fan2
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BearyGordy;841919208 said:

Not sure that 46 is old fart status, but...I agree that the renovation of Memorial has been done well, but I also think it reflects the bad things of the modern game. Instead of a simple bowl with everyone in the same situation, we have special sections and seat status, and clubs, etc. We have new video boards on the side of the field to blare out advertising. I don't blame Cal, but I don't like then new environment. Just like I don't like stupid videos and adverts during timeouts instead of the band. I hate not knowing when a game will start until television decides when it is convenient. I really hate pushing the Big Game in the middle of the season. I have no idea why Utah and Colorado need to join the league. They are doing their best to ruin a great game and great Saturday (Friday?, Thursday?) experience.

That being said, Cal made the right decision to stay in big time football and they are trying their best to balance the new crap with the old traditions. Not a fan of most of the necessary compromises, but can't wait for the season.


I'll bet you miss your straw hat and raccoon coat too......LOL. j/k. I can see what you mean but I think it is cool that we modernized the west side while maintaining the old look outside. Moving forward and change are always tough, especially for us Old Blues, but moving forward WE WILL !!!!
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BearyGordy;841919208 said:

Not sure that 46 is old fart status, but...I agree that the renovation of Memorial has been done well, but I also think it reflects the bad things of the modern game. Instead of a simple bowl with everyone in the same situation, we have special sections and seat status, and clubs, etc. We have new video boards on the side of the field to blare out advertising. I don't blame Cal, but I don't like then new environment. Just like I don't like stupid videos and adverts during timeouts instead of the band. I hate not knowing when a game will start until television decides when it is convenient. I really hate pushing the Big Game in the middle of the season. I have no idea why Utah and Colorado need to join the league. They are doing their best to ruin a great game and great Saturday (Friday?, Thursday?) experience.

That being said, Cal made the right decision to stay in big time football and they are trying their best to balance the new crap with the old traditions. Not a fan of most of the necessary compromises, but can't wait for the season.


+2 from a certied OF
march2397
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OFs rule.

Certified OF
Mama Bear
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march2397;841919235 said:

OFs rule.

Certified OF


+1, certified many years ago! Hanging in for CMS opening day!!!
calfanz
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Selling the naming rights. We need to raise money and that is a painless way to do it.

Get it done Sandy...a rose by any other name is still a ROSE
JerrBear
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BearyGordy;841919208 said:

Not sure that 46 is old fart status, but...I agree that the renovation of Memorial has been done well, but I also think it reflects the bad things of the modern game. Instead of a simple bowl with everyone in the same situation, we have special sections and seat status, and clubs, etc. We have new video boards on the side of the field to blare out advertising. I don't blame Cal, but I don't like then new environment. Just like I don't like stupid videos and adverts during timeouts instead of the band. I hate not knowing when a game will start until television decides when it is convenient. I really hate pushing the Big Game in the middle of the season. I have no idea why Utah and Colorado need to join the league. They are doing their best to ruin a great game and great Saturday (Friday?, Thursday?) experience.

That being said, Cal made the right decision to stay in big time football and they are trying their best to balance the new crap with the old traditions. Not a fan of most of the necessary compromises, but can't wait for the season.


You nailed all of it and at the very least qualify as an honorary OF. Just this morning I trashed my "Welcome HOME ENDOWMENT SEATING PREMIUM SECTION BENEFITS" complete with three seat options brochure. I wonder if the $5 rent a chairs will be a option in the Gold Zone.
I am starting to feel like we are the 99% of Cal fans that need to occupy Memorial Stadium. Memorial has been my "church" complete with lots of praying for the last 62 years so I have lots of ambivalece about any changes (well I guess a restroom upgrade is OK.)
Thanks for a great post.
CalBear68
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calfanz;841919312 said:

Selling the naming rights. We need to raise money and that is a painless way to do it.

Get it done Sandy...a rose by any other name is still a ROSE


Cue trojie trolls: "How would you know what a rose is?"

There, spared you the effort.
kelly09
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JerrBear;841919316 said:

You nailed all of it and at the very least qualify as an honorary OF. Just this morning I trashed my "Welcome HOME ENDOWMENT SEATING PREMIUM SECTION BENEFITS" complete with three seat options brochure. I wonder if the $5 rent a chairs will be a option in the Gold Zone.
I am starting to feel like we are the 99% of Cal fans that need to occupy Memorial Stadium. Memorial has been my "church" complete with lots of praying for the last 62 years so I have lots of ambivalece about any changes (well I guess a restroom upgrade is OK.)
Thanks for a great post.


Oh please God, let us have those $5 seatbacks.
A ROF!
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