http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000158580/article/keenan-allen-clocks-471-475-in-40-per-mayock?campaign=Twitter_atl

mid 2nd round pick

In the purely #'s driven NFL this probably hurts him for sure ..

not a first rounder.

steal for anyone in the second.

He's got Jerry Rice speed and Jerry Rice moves.

Yikes

bar20;842112050 said:

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He's got Jerry Rice speed and Jerry Rice moves.

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I hope he has a Jerry Rice work ethic.

Yikes, a 4.71. I have to assume this was a hand time, correct? This cements it, he's going to be a steal in the 2nd round as there's almost no way he's a first rounder now.

Bonus in all this is that I can safely claim to be faster than Keenan Allen - of course, that means nothing because he's going to be making bank playing in the NFL ... and I'm going to be watching from my couch.

:acclaim:

Yeah he's definitely faster than that... I hope his knee is healing up properly

Will Dykes' receiver at Louis. Tech get drafted before Allen?

This doesn't surprise me too much. I never really thought he was a burner. He looks deceptfully fast because he runs precise routes and gets to where he needs to be. I dont recall him outrunning many backs.

89Bear;842112070 said:

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Will Dykes' receiver at Louis. Tech get drafted before Allen?

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That guy looked amazing in that game against Texas A&M. Did he get invited to the combine?

Some actual video with a good interview with Mike Mayock, which even included a tedford reference! (Re: Tedford's backyard, which had a half-court b-ball sportcourt with a custom "Cal" script in the middle of it that Keenan played on).

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/0ap2000000158484/Mike-Mayock-discusses-Keenan-Allen-pro-day?continuous=true

You guys think that his long touchdowns are more amazing now that we know he's a 4.7 guy?

his agility and size is off the charts

KA21 is just another Cal player everyone doubts but will eventually love. You know there's a bunch of them: A Rodg, Alualu, Anger, even Ryan Anderson. Those are the As, also DJax and a bunch more.

its not going to matter with his 40 time. the scouts went away raving about his route running ability calling his route running "perfect." believe it or not, i think he moved up on some teams' draft boards

Kennan should have taken the Lynn Swann route - if you want to time him, time him from his film. In that way, the teams see what makes him special as a receiver and return man - without succumbing to the numbers afficionados

He shouldn't have run the 40 today - he's definitely faster than that and he said he was hoping to run in the 4.4s. If he was truly a 4.7 guy, I doubt he would have ever said 4.4. I would imagine that he's still not at full speed and at his best he's at least in the 4.6s.

Frank Gore made the mistake of running at the combine before he was fully healthy and ran a 4.65 which caused him to drop to the 3rd round.

With that 40 time, I think it will be hard for a GM to pick him in the 1st round, but somebody is going to get a real steal in the second with him.

40 times seem to mean everything nowadays. Way too much put into 40 times these days. Keenan Allen will continue to shine in the nfl.

Not meant to be a diss but if he is really only running a 4.7, maybe Maynard wasnt as bad as he seemed everytime he overthrew Keenan.

Cal Panda Bear;842112117 said:

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Not meant to be a diss but if he is really only running a 4.7, maybe Maynard wasnt as bad as he seemed everytime he overthrew Keenan.

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KA was an acrobat, not just a receiver to catch those passes

Ive been saying this all along. KA is a 4.6-4.7 guy 100% of the time. When faster, less physical receivers have to slow down to make cuts, KA makes his cuts at the same speed he was at in the straight away,without slowing down. I cant count the times KA made an unexpected cut in m2 or double only to leave the defenders in their tracks.

Unit2Sucks;842112108 said:

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He shouldn't have run the 40 today - he's definitely faster than that and he said he was hoping to run in the 4.4s. If he was truly a 4.7 guy, I doubt he would have ever said 4.4. I would imagine that he's still not at full speed and at his best he's at least in the 4.6s.

Frank Gore made the mistake of running at the combine before he was fully healthy and ran a 4.65 which caused him to drop to the 3rd round.

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I felt like it was obvious from that video that he's not nearly as explosive as he was during his time at Cal. And while structurally his knee might be 100%, if he's missing explosion, that's going to significantly affect his 40 time. He looked fluid in his running, but there's no doubt that his time suffered. He always looked to me like a low 4.6 guy with the possibility of being in the high 4.5's. However a hand time of 4.71 is technically a 4.8 if we are being honest about it.

Vandalus;842112078 said:

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Some actual video with a good interview with Mike Mayock, which even included a tedford reference! (Re: Tedford's backyard, which had a half-court b-ball sportcourt with a custom "Cal" script in the middle of it that Keenan played on).

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/0ap2000000158484/Mike-Mayock-discusses-Keenan-Allen-pro-day?continuous=true

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Really sums it up - some guys will downgrade KA because of his health and 40 time, others will believe the tape. Anywhere from 25 to 45 depending on team needs.

Cal Panda Bear;842112117 said:

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Not meant to be a diss but if he is really only running a 4.7, maybe Maynard wasnt as bad as he seemed everytime he overthrew Keenan.

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can't tell if you're joking. a decent QB doesn't throw to a Bryce Treggs the same way he would to Rich Rodgers

Cal Panda Bear;842112117 said:

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Not meant to be a diss but if he is really only running a 4.7, maybe Maynard wasnt as bad as he seemed everytime he overthrew Keenan.

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You mean after throwing the ball to him all his life he still can't determine how fast his bro is?

beeasyed;842112144 said:

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can't tell if you're joking. a decent QB doesn't throw to a Bryce Treggs the same way he would to Rich Rodgers

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At least Maynard was consistent. Chuck 'n Pray

Davidson;842112079 said:

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You guys think that his long touchdowns are more amazing now that we know he's a 4.7 guy?

his agility and size is off the charts

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HOW MANY "long touchdowns" did he have in his three years at Cal?

Didn't he measure 6-2, 206 (or something like that) at the Combine? Is that really "off the charts"?

I would agree that his agility/fluidity are off the charts for a bigger receiver.

Best of luck to Keenan Allen; I wish him great success.

I'm wondering why last fall's knee injury is still lingering. Was the treatment and followup lacking? How independent was KA from Cal after his injury? His recovery seems a bit out of the norm, but then who would know due to the lack of info?

dinan3;842112157 said:

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I'm wondering why last fall's knee injury is still lingering. Was the treatment and followup lacking? How independent was KA from Cal after his injury? His recovery seems a bit out of the norm, but then who would know due to the lack of info?

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He re-injured it in January during pre-combine workouts.

Darn, it looks like 92GoBears92 wins and I only get second.

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71056&highlight=keenan

beeasyed;842112144 said:

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can't tell if you're joking. a decent QB doesn't throw to a Bryce Treggs the same way he would to Rich Rodgers

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Im not joking. It was a serious thought - Maynard overthrew his brother alot... maybe because his brother wasnt fast enough to catch up.

But then again, you guys are right - he shouldve known by now that his brother isnt that fast and adjust to it.

:tedford

beeasyed;842112144 said:

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can't tell if you're joking. a decent QB doesn't throw to a Bryce Treggs the same way he would to Rich Rodgers

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The operative words there are, "throw to"....as opposed to "throw at".

SanJuanBear;842112177 said:

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Darn, it looks like 92GoBears92 wins and I only get second.

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71056&highlight=keenan

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I was wrong on a part of my prediction, 4.54.
And I still think I'm right on the 2nd part...It' still a problem for GMs, Coaches, etc. Somebody is going to have to stretch to take him in the 1st round and it may be worthwhile. Or not. All the CBs he will be facing are quick.